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He will say he should underwrite it cmon man

Refuse to insure new construction in areas that are clearly threatened because of bad drainage and low elevation.
DeSantis has not even mentioned that this is a major concern, which it is. He is elected to solve problems such as this, while I am not.
Instead he ignores them to persecute Drag Queens and force teachers to remove books from school libraries.
Disney is not a concern for Floridians.
They rarely mention the reason why DeSantis declared war on Disney.
It was not mostly because Disney opposed his stupid "never say gay" law.

No.
It was because Disney declared that it would no longer donate to ANY political campaign.
DeSantis is corrupt and a manipulative demagogue. He is bad for Florida and would be bad for the country.

Xavier_Onassis » 26 May 2023, 9:21 am » wrote: ↑

26 May 2023, 9:21 am

Refuse to insure new construction in areas that are clearly threatened because of bad drainage and low elevation.
DeSantis has not even mentioned that this is a major concern, which it is. He is elected to solve problems such as this, while I am not.
Instead he ignores them to persecute Drag Queens and force teachers to remove books from school libraries.
Disney is not a concern for Floridians.
They rarely mention the reason why DeSantis declared war on Disney.
It was not mostly because Disney opposed his stupid "never say gay" law.

No.
It was because Disney declared that it would no longer donate to ANY political campaign.
DeSantis is corrupt and a manipulative demagogue. He is bad for Florida and would be bad for the country.

And Andrew gillum would have been better?
 

Z09 » 26 May 2023, 9:28 am » wrote: ↑

26 May 2023, 9:28 am

So...
You support a governor to get involved in new construction and insurance rates?

Of course!  Why should average citizens subsidize the housing for fatcats-- many of them not citizens-- who choose to live on high rise towers on the coast that are prone to being destroyed by hurricanes and tidal surges?

Xavier_Onassis » 26 May 2023, 9:21 am » wrote: ↑

26 May 2023, 9:21 am

Refuse to insure new construction in areas that are clearly threatened because of bad drainage and low elevation.
DeSantis has not even mentioned that this is a major concern, which it is. He is elected to solve problems such as this, while I am not.
Instead he ignores them to persecute Drag Queens and force teachers to remove books from school libraries.
Disney is not a concern for Floridians.
They rarely mention the reason why DeSantis declared war on Disney.
It was not mostly because Disney opposed his stupid "never say gay" law.

No.
It was because Disney declared that it would no longer donate to ANY political campaign.
DeSantis is corrupt and a manipulative demagogue. He is bad for Florida and would be bad for the country.

I didn't realize, in FL, the governor had the authority to deny insurance coverage to specific projects?  Can you cite the FL law that gives him that authority?  After all, you are a resident of the state.

 
 

BuckNaked » 26 May 2023, 9:27 am » wrote: ↑

26 May 2023, 9:27 am

And Andrew gillum would have been better?

MUCH better. He was not an addict.
All charges against him have been dropped.

No way Gillum would have started a stupid war with Disney, passed anti-gay, anti WOKE laws, appointed incompetent bumpkins as university presidents.
If he has done absolutely NOTHING he would have been an improvement over DeSantis.

Xavier_Onassis » 26 May 2023, 9:21 am » wrote: ↑

26 May 2023, 9:21 am

Refuse to insure new construction in areas that are clearly threatened because of bad drainage and low elevation.
 

Do, Desantis should refuse to insure new construction in low lying areas. 

• what construction does Ron Desantis now insure?
• How will Ron Desantis' refusing to insure new construction in flood prone areas going to lower insurance rates for Floridians. 

 

Xavier_Onassis » 26 May 2023, 9:39 am » wrote: ↑

26 May 2023, 9:39 am

Of course!  Why should average citizens subsidize the housing for fatcats-- many of them not citizens-- who choose to live on high rise towers on the coast that are prone to being destroyed by hurricanes and tidal surges?

Really, so we take it you can provide a few examples of high rise towers that were destroyed by a hurricane or tidal surge in the last 20 years.

We'll wait...

 
 

Z09 » 26 May 2023, 9:50 am » wrote: ↑

26 May 2023, 9:50 am

Your second point is my point!

Somehow Xavier's insurance rates will go down in Miami if DeSantis refuses construction in Jacksonville?  (And I'm not sure if he can)

Basically, Xavier is saying that nothing should be constructed along Florida's coastal regions.  But, this just shows that Xavier doesn't have a clue about the problems of getting insurance in Florida (has nothing to do with flooding, because flood insurance is separate), and has no clue what code requirements new construction is required to meet if in coastal or flood areas.  He's an old man living in an old highrise in Miami.  All of Miami and Miami beach were built on limestone and spoil islands back before the 1960's.  The place is screwed because builders screwed it up nearly 100 years ago.
 

Xavier_Onassis » 26 May 2023, 9:21 am » wrote: ↑

26 May 2023, 9:21 am

Refuse to insure new construction in areas that are clearly threatened because of bad drainage and low elevation.
DeSantis has not even mentioned that this is a major concern, which it is. He is elected to solve problems such as this, while I am not.
Instead he ignores them to persecute Drag Queens and force teachers to remove books from school libraries.
Disney is not a concern for Floridians.
They rarely mention the reason why DeSantis declared war on Disney.
It was not mostly because Disney opposed his stupid "never say gay" law.

No.
It was because Disney declared that it would no longer donate to ANY political campaign.
DeSantis is corrupt and a manipulative demagogue. He is bad for Florida and would be bad for the country.

Would you vote for a Newsom/AOC Ticket ?                              

Skans » 26 May 2023, 9:59 am » wrote: ↑

26 May 2023, 9:59 am

Basically, Xavier is saying that nothing should be constructed along Florida's coastal regions.  But, this just shows that Xavier doesn't have a clue about the problems of getting insurance in Florida (has nothing to do with flooding, because flood insurance is separate), and has no clue what code requirements new construction is required to meet if in coastal or flood areas.  He's an old man living in an old highrise in Miami.  All of Miami and Miami beach were built on limestone and spoil islands back before the 1960's.  The place is screwed because builders screwed it up nearly 100 years ago.

If I lived in Miami, then I would live on a boat with a good, strong, cold  A/C !!
It gets very hot & very muggy down there.   About like New Orleans.
I went down there 10-15yrs. ago.    To check-out a good sailboat.  Seaworthy, strong,
ocean-going.   Southern Cross 28.  The kind of boat a good, smart, gutsy, sailor
could take to Honolulu.  The eng. was bad & I could not get the right price. 
Stayed 2-days, got drunk, & went back to Biloxi.   Drove about 800mi......for nothin'.         

 

Man, I bet DeSantis will talk tough.
He will tell'em!
Make lots of promises. Good ones!

 

Lower regulations and encourage more competition. Competiton is the only way to bring prices down.

Xavier_Onassis » 26 May 2023, 9:47 am » wrote: ↑

26 May 2023, 9:47 am

MUCH better. He was not an addict.
All charges against him have been dropped.

No way Gillum would have started a stupid war with Disney, passed anti-gay, anti WOKE laws, appointed incompetent bumpkins as university presidents.
If he has done absolutely NOTHING he would have been an improvement over DeSantis.

r u **** kiddin?   We are livin free 

Taipan » 26 May 2023, 10:36 am » wrote: ↑

26 May 2023, 10:36 am

If I lived in Miami, then I would live on a boat with a good, strong, cold  A/C !!
It gets very hot & very muggy down there.   About like New Orleans.
I went down there 10-15yrs. ago.    To check-out a good sailboat.  Seaworthy, strong,
ocean-going.   Southern Cross 28.  The kind of boat a good, smart, gutsy, sailor
could take to Honolulu.  The eng. was bad & I could not get the right price. 
Stayed 2-days, got drunk, & went back to Biloxi.   Drove about 800mi......for nothin'.         

If I had the time, I'd take up sailing.  My wife is more into cruisers, not sail boats.  Perhaps, in another life.

I love sailing; used to do some sailing with some friends of mine who had boats or access to boats in my 20's.  Also did a lots of windsurfing.  I understand the wind.  On a 25+ knot day, you can get as much power and speed from a wind craft as from a motor boat, or jetski.
 

Skans » 26 May 2023, 2:01 pm » wrote: ↑

26 May 2023, 2:01 pm

If I had the time, I'd take up sailing.  My wife is more into cruisers, not sail boats.  Perhaps, in another life.

I love sailing; used to do some sailing with some friends of mine who had boats or access to boats in my 20's.  Also did a lots of windsurfing.  I understand the wind.  On a 25+ knot day, you can get as much power and speed from a wind craft as from a motor boat, or jetski.

In my next lifetime, I am going to be a gunsmith, a firearms instructor,
a long-range target expert w/ the .338 Lapua, & the owner of the biggest
gun-shop in Texas.     What ??      I can dream, can't I ??          LOL..........  

Taipan » 26 May 2023, 2:26 pm » wrote: ↑

26 May 2023, 2:26 pm

In my next lifetime, I am going to be a gunsmith, a firearms instructor,
a long-range target expert w/ the .338 Lapua, & the owner of the biggest
gun-shop in Texas.     What ??      I can dream, can't I ??          LOL..........  

When you own a gun shop, you have to sell all your favorite guns to make payroll.       
 

Skans » 26 May 2023, 2:35 pm » wrote: ↑

26 May 2023, 2:35 pm

When you own a gun shop, you have to sell all your favorite guns to make payroll.     

LOL..........
"If a man can figure out how to make a living at something that
  he really loves to do.......then he never has to go to work".
                                                                                                  Old Texas Saying.

Taipan » 26 May 2023, 2:52 pm » wrote: ↑

26 May 2023, 2:52 pm

LOL..........
"If a man can figure out how to make a living at something that
  he really loves to do.......then he never has to go to work".
                                                                                                  Old Texas Saying.

"If a man can figure out how to make a living at something
he really loves to do, then he's **** your hot wife right now, and will be **** mine at 4:45."
                                                                                                      Old Georgia saying.


You know what time it is????

It's time for a frosty mug of any-beer-but-InBev-Beer.... 
 
 

Z09 » 26 May 2023, 2:16 pm » wrote: ↑

26 May 2023, 2:16 pm

"many of them not citizens..?

Do you think people here illegally should get free stuff?

C'mon...
You're complaing about fatcats getting subsidized

There are thousands of foreign immigrants that live in Florida and have "green cards". They can com and go as they choose. Many are from South and Central America. Many own real estate in Florida as investments.  They live in fancy neighborhoods that have good streets, sidewalks and street lights. They send their kids to the better schools, like Miami Beach High and those in Kendall,  Coral Gables, Cutler Bay. If they live off their investments, they pay only 15% income tax.