One of the last remaining moderate Democrats in Congress burnished his independent credentials back home in his deep red state in late 2021, swooping in to (almost single-handedly) kill the Biden agenda. But months later, that same Democrat shocked DC by unveiling a surprise deal cut behind closed doors with Chuck Schumer, resurrecting key elements of that same agenda. The result was the so-called 'Inflation Reduction Act,' and its bloating Green New Deal spending and historic expansion and empowerment of the Internal Revenue Service. Upon further review, the folks back home were not impressed. The ostensibly moderate and independent Democrat didn't seem so moderate or independent anymore, handing his party an unexpected legislative gift in the run-up to key election. Public opinion instantly soured. And the politician in question, West Virginia Senator Joe Minchin, has been backpedaling ever since. He's even threatened to try to repeal his own bill, citing 'betrayals' from his party, which everyone saw coming.
Ironically, if the current debt ceiling deal between President Biden and Speaker McCarthy is enacted, a version of Manchin's permitting reform would be delivered -- no thanks to Schumer, of course. The bill also eliminates Manchin/Schumer's IRS enforcement spending increase for this year -- no thanks to either of those men, of course. If and when Manchin tries to tout either or both of these potential developments, I suspect that spin will fall on many deaf ears belonging to West Virginia voters. It looks like anything that may happen between now and November 2024 might be categorized in the 'too little, too late' file for Manchin, whose skillful and tenuous dance as a red state Democrat appears to be coming to an end. There's a long way to go, of course, and things can change, but these are just horrific numbers:
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Welcome aboard, Manchin. As long as you are 100% pro-gun, pro 1st Amendment, closed borders, and for fiscal responsibility, as a Republican, I would be glad to have you aboard.Beekeeper » 31 May 2023, 1:52 pm » wrote: ↑ Looks like BETRAYING your State means you get BOOTED TO THE CURB if you stay a Democrat, Joe!!
So tell us, changing parties looks pretty APPEALING right about now, huh??
He might even opt to run for President at an Independent too. He is making TONS of criticisms of Uncle Dementia Joe and could toss his hat in the ring there. THAT would give the Republican the White House since it splits the Dems vote, NOT Republicans. Don't be surprised to see Kennedy add his name to the Indy rolls as well if Biden refuses to debate him or even acknowledge he exists.Skans » 31 May 2023, 1:58 pm » wrote: ↑ Welcome aboard, Manchin. As long as you are 100% pro-gun, pro 1st Amendment, closed borders, and for fiscal responsibility, as a Republican, I would be glad to have you aboard.
That certainly could be interesting. There's no Chuck Schumer to whip Manchin into the party line. We could see a split in the Democrat party.Beekeeper » 31 May 2023, 2:04 pm » wrote: ↑ He might even opt to run for President at an Independent too. He is making TONS of criticisms of Uncle Dementia Joe and could toss his hat in the ring there. THAT would give the Republican the White House since it splits the Dems vote, NOT Republicans. Don't be surprised to see Kennedy add his name to the Indy rolls as well if Biden refuses to debate him or even acknowledge he exists.
Exactly.Skans » 31 May 2023, 2:28 pm » wrote: ↑ That certainly could be interesting. There's no Chuck Schumer to whip Manchin into the party line. We could see a split in the Democrat party.
Those industries are the largest part of the WV GDP...why the hell would a Senator from WV not support those industries?Xavier_Onassis » 31 May 2023, 3:42 pm » wrote: ↑ Manchin, rather than the Senator from West Virginia, is really the Senator from Big Oil and Big Coal.
If I still lived in WV, I would not vote for him.
polls are nice, then there's the actual ballot casting.....Dems just can't find a real excuse not to vote Demonrat no matter what.Beekeeper » 31 May 2023, 1:52 pm » wrote: ↑ Looks like BETRAYING your State means you get BOOTED TO THE CURB if you stay a Democrat, Joe!!
So tell us, changing parties looks pretty APPEALING right about now, huh??
well, not everyone is dumb enough to vote for someone that looks you in the eye and says he's gonna raise your taxes, eliminate your jobs, and outlaw fossil fuels.Xavier_Onassis » 31 May 2023, 3:42 pm » wrote: ↑ Manchin, rather than the Senator from West Virginia, is really the Senator from Big Oil and Big Coal.
If I still lived in WV, I would not vote for him.
So they ran you outa there, huh?
Perhaps, but WV has gone roughly 65% Republican over the years. Justice is a very popular governor and has fought the Dems in DC relatively effectively.sunburn » 31 May 2023, 4:12 pm » wrote: ↑ polls are nice, then there's the actual ballot casting.....Dems just can't find a real excuse not to vote Demonrat no matter what.
the only democrat with a backbone who actually votes his conscience...lBeekeeper » 31 May 2023, 1:52 pm » wrote: ↑ Looks like BETRAYING your State means you get BOOTED TO THE CURB if you stay a Democrat, Joe!!
So tell us, changing parties looks pretty APPEALING right about now, huh??
Uh, no.ROG62 » 31 May 2023, 6:02 pm » wrote: ↑ the only democrat with a backbone who actually votes his conscience...l
too late for that ****...the GOP already has too many Rinos.....and progressive democrats masquerading as something they aren'tBeekeeper » 31 May 2023, 1:52 pm » wrote: ↑ Looks like BETRAYING your State means you get BOOTED TO THE CURB if you stay a Democrat, Joe!!
So tell us, changing parties looks pretty APPEALING right about now, huh??
Of course he'll vote for what's good for him, however, that being said, I have seen him stifle the democratic agenda many times they were trying to ramrod thru...Beekeeper » 31 May 2023, 6:06 pm » wrote: ↑ Uh, no.
He made a backroom deal with Schumer and Biden to pass the "inflation reduction act" and got SCREWED ROYALLY ON IT!! That gas pipeline he was promised was AXED as soon as the bill passed. So please, don't tell me he votes his "conscience" when the reality is, he screwed his State and will pay for it in 2024.
Because they are supporting the destruction of the planet and overcharging the people of my country. **** Manchin, I hope he dies!ConsRule » 31 May 2023, 3:51 pm » wrote: ↑ Those industries are the largest part of the WV GDP...why the hell would a Senator from WV not support those industries?
Riggghhhhttttttt......Xavier_Onassis » 31 May 2023, 8:24 pm » wrote: ↑ Because they are supporting the destruction of the planet and overcharging the people of my country. **** Manchin, I hope he dies!
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