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Mike Pence gets a pass on classified documents from the DOJ
Mike Pence gets a pass on classified documents from the DOJ
By *rippy38
3 Jun 2023 4:56 am in No Holds Barred Political Forum
8 Jun 2023 10:38 am
RedheadedStranger » 03 Jun 2023, 4:56 am » wrote: ↑ Biden will too, you can rest assured.
Trump will be prosecuted full tilt though... because Orange Man Bad.
https://justthenews.com/government/fede ... estigation
Nah... the DOJ hasn't been weaponized.
The left has been building their house of cards for many years...I think an implosion is due.
8 Jun 2023 3:19 pm
You goo faced little perv, the hitlery investigation was run by the same fellow who was found to have been her partisan and was found to have espoused hatred of trump and opposition to his running. He immunized the witnesses against hitlery WITHOUT an agreement for their testimony, deliberately sabotaging his own case. He followed THAT impropriety with interviewing them in the "target's" presence. The case was fixed by corrupt officials, up and down the ladder.Prospero » 08 Jun 2023, 6:10 am » wrote: ↑ The case of Bill Clinton wasn't about national defense information documents, it was about audio tapes. so, false equivalency. But, I'll include hillary.
Regarding the mishandling of national defense information documents, are the cases of Hillary Clinton and Joe Biden the same as that of Donald Trump?
Bing AI reports:
The cases of Hillary Clinton and Joe Biden are not the same as that of Donald Trump. In 2016, the investigation into Hillary Clinton’s handling of classified material on her private email server dogged her presidential campaign for months – ending with the Department of Justice declining to prosecute her because there wasn’t evidence that she or others intended to mishandle the documents1. On the other hand, Donald Trump was found to have mishandled classified information while he was president2. Joe Biden was also accused of mishandling classified documents when lawyers for him discovered about 10 classified documents at his office in the Penn Biden Center, a nonprofit think tank in Washington, DC. His counsel said the documents were immediately turned over to the National Archives34.
SPECIFICALLY, you drooling goon, he softened the language of Comey's ACTUAL findings from "grossly negligent" to "extremely careless" - which changes the legal ramifications. If not for this (later fired without pension) partisan agent's manipulations and the illegal "meeting on the tarmac" where Bubba Clinton very likely threatened Loretta Lynch's life, hitlery's crimes would have resulted in prosecution.
AI can suck my dick. You can't - I don't want your disease.
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/ousted-fbi ... mail-case/
When you complain, ur friends roll their eyes and ur enemies rejoice
"Because I SAY I am" is a todler's tantrum, not "science"
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"Because I SAY I am" is a todler's tantrum, not "science"
You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.
Who cuts off your dick is not a friend
An opinion you won't defend is not your own
Humanity's Law of the Jungle: Survival NOT of the fittest, but of the tribe
When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge
If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
8 Jun 2023 3:23 pm
I can't picture pence. I remeber his suit - don't remember him.nefarious101 » 07 Jun 2023, 5:18 pm » wrote: ↑ That's great....since Trump is running the Progressives have found a new love for JEEZ-ZUZ! Even the "Man in a dress" will embrace Pence...tho it might not be a 'Love Lock" kind of embrace....but you never know....Pence might grind out a dry humping or two...even like it bit too
When you complain, ur friends roll their eyes and ur enemies rejoice
"Because I SAY I am" is a todler's tantrum, not "science"
You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.
Who cuts off your dick is not a friend
An opinion you won't defend is not your own
Humanity's Law of the Jungle: Survival NOT of the fittest, but of the tribe
When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge
If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
"Because I SAY I am" is a todler's tantrum, not "science"
You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.
Who cuts off your dick is not a friend
An opinion you won't defend is not your own
Humanity's Law of the Jungle: Survival NOT of the fittest, but of the tribe
When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge
If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
8 Jun 2023 3:24 pm
Even THEN zim has to cherry pick.
I showed where even CBS reported that strzok threw the case against clinton.
When you complain, ur friends roll their eyes and ur enemies rejoice
"Because I SAY I am" is a todler's tantrum, not "science"
You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.
Who cuts off your dick is not a friend
An opinion you won't defend is not your own
Humanity's Law of the Jungle: Survival NOT of the fittest, but of the tribe
When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge
If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
"Because I SAY I am" is a todler's tantrum, not "science"
You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.
Who cuts off your dick is not a friend
An opinion you won't defend is not your own
Humanity's Law of the Jungle: Survival NOT of the fittest, but of the tribe
When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge
If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
8 Jun 2023 7:06 pm
How do you know what was on Bill's audio tapes?Prospero » 08 Jun 2023, 6:10 am » wrote: ↑ The case of Bill Clinton wasn't about national defense information documents, it was about audio tapes. so, false equivalency. But, I'll include hillary.
Regarding the mishandling of national defense information documents, are the cases of Hillary Clinton and Joe Biden the same as that of Donald Trump?
And Hillary definitely exposed America's national security secrets on her personal server, which she wiped after subpoena.
8 Jun 2023 10:04 pm
How do you?
8 Jun 2023 10:04 pm
Didn't say I did.
Fact is that he had records in clear violation of the PRA, regardless of what was on them.
9 Jun 2023 3:44 am
The audio tapes were not classified documents.
She ordered her server manager to delete personal files two weeks prior to a subpoena, a deletion that is routine. Did Hillary know that her server manager didn't actually delete them until just after the subpoena? No evidence to that claim has yet to be produced in a court of law. Until then, yours is pure speculation.And Hillary definitely exposed America's national security secrets on her personal server, which she wiped after subpoena.
There is no evidence for your claim. Only three of the 30k emails were marked as 'confidential' as indicated by the marker 'C" on the emails. One doesn't indict a high value target on such evidence. There is no evidence that those emails contained TS/SCI documents, as were mishandled by Trump. Given the markers, it's not likely. .Yes, some in the FBI deemed there were over 100 emails that should have been marked as classified. However, that's a determination made after the fact and not by the issuing authority, and by virtue of that fact, a prosecutor knows that a competent attorney can easily destroy that contention on cross. This is why Director Comey, a lawyer himself, declared on TV that no prosecutor would prosecute Clinton based on this kind of evidence.
9 Jun 2023 3:55 am
Prosecutions for the mishandling of national defense information documents are not based on the PRA, they are based on the Espionage Act. The circumstances surrounding clinton and the tapes are quite different than the circumstances surrounding Trump's mishandling of national defense information documents.golfboy » 08 Jun 2023, 10:04 pm » wrote: ↑ Didn't say I did.
Fact is that he had records in clear violation of the PRA, regardless of what was on them.
Given that Senators and members of the exec branch routinely remove classified docs and take them home, (with the expectation of returning them) the DOJ policy is to give them the benefit of the doubt if they are discovered later and not returned, that they were inadvertently acquired. All that occurs as that juncture is that the person cooperate fully in the return of the documents.
That was the case with Biden and Pence, but is not the case with Trump.
9 Jun 2023 5:58 am
Well, if that is their testimony, it will be perjury, because a federal magistrate would never have signed off on a search warrant to search the home of a former United States President if there was hint of truth in your claim.golfboy » 07 Jun 2023, 8:42 pm » wrote: ↑ Strange how the people who were working with Trump and his team, objected to the raid, order by the DOJ in Washington, because he was cooperating with them. Think their testimony will be important?
9 Jun 2023 6:00 am
roadkill » 08 Jun 2023, 10:38 am » wrote: ↑ The left has been building their house of cards for many years...I think an implosion is due.
That's rich considering the right's house of cards tumbled on January 6.
If ours is going to fall, we got a lot of catching up to do.
9 Jun 2023 6:13 am
Prospero » 09 Jun 2023, 6:00 am » wrote: ↑ That's rich considering the right's house of cards tumbled on January 6.
If ours is going to fall, we got a lot of catching up to do.
Yer ignorance is stunning. You obviously don't follow real facts.
9 Jun 2023 5:53 pm
lol. You have no idea how the legal system works, do you?Prospero » 09 Jun 2023, 5:58 am » wrote: ↑ Well, if that is their testimony, it will be perjury, because a federal magistrate would never have signed off on a search warrant to search the home of a former United States President if there was hint of truth in your claim.
They raided his house because he had documents showing the FBI spied on his 2018 campaign, and they wanted them back before he could put them in a book.
9 Jun 2023 6:11 pm
But you idiots said Trump didn't have the right to have those documents, because it was a violation of the PRA. I guess that was a lie too.Prospero » 09 Jun 2023, 3:55 am » wrote: ↑ Prosecutions for the mishandling of national defense information documents are not based on the PRA, they are based on the Espionage Act. The circumstances surrounding clinton and the tapes are quite different than the circumstances surrounding Trump's mishandling of national defense information documents.
Given that Senators and members of the exec branch routinely remove classified docs and take them home, (with the expectation of returning them) the DOJ policy is to give them the benefit of the doubt if they are discovered later and not returned, that they were inadvertently acquired. All that occurs as that juncture is that the person cooperate fully in the return of the documents.
That was the case with Biden and Pence, but is not the case with Trump.
Oh, and the espionage act requires that Trump intended to hurt America. It will be intereting to see prosecutors trying to prove that in court.
How was Clinton's case different? Well, besides him having a "D" after his name...
And how about Sandy Berger? Why wasn't he prosecuted for stealing documents from a SCIF?
And you're lying about Biden returning the documents. He STILL has hundreds of boxes of documents at the Univ of Delaware, and at his Chinatown office.
Weird he would keep government documents in Chinatown, don't you think?
10 Jun 2023 5:41 am
Sorry, you have no evidence for that claim.golfboy » 09 Jun 2023, 5:53 pm » wrote: ↑ lol. You have no idea how the legal system works, do you?
They raided his house because he had documents showing the FBI spied on his 2018 campaign, and they wanted them back before he could put them in a book.
Trump is toast
https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap ... 53.3.0.pdf
10 Jun 2023 5:42 am
roadkill » 09 Jun 2023, 6:13 am » wrote: ↑ Yer ignorance is stunning. You obviously don't follow real facts.
Suck on this:
https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap ... 53.3.0.pdf
10 Jun 2023 5:44 am
Nothing Hillary did compares to Trump showing national defense information documents to persons without security clearances.golfboy » 08 Jun 2023, 7:06 pm » wrote: ↑ How do you know what was on Bill's audio tapes?
And Hillary definitely exposed America's national security secrets on her personal server, which she wiped after subpoena.
Reality Winner got 5 year for one document only.
Trump is toast
https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap ... 53.3.0.pdf
10 Jun 2023 5:53 am
But,but,but!golfboy » 09 Jun 2023, 6:11 pm » wrote: ↑ But you idiots said Trump didn't have the right to have those documents, because it was a violation of the PRA. I guess that was a lie too.
Oh, and the espionage act requires that Trump intended to hurt America. It will be intereting to see prosecutors trying to prove that in court.
How was Clinton's case different? Well, besides him having a "D" after his name...
And how about Sandy Berger? Why wasn't he prosecuted for stealing documents from a SCIF?
And you're lying about Biden returning the documents. He STILL has hundreds of boxes of documents at the Univ of Delaware, and at his Chinatown office.
Weird he would keep government documents in Chinatown, don't you think?
Priceless.
10 Jun 2023 5:53 am
Prospero » 10 Jun 2023, 5:44 am » wrote: ↑ Nothing Hillary did compares to Trump showing national defense information documents to persons without security clearances.
Reality Winner got 5 year for one document only.
Trump is toast
https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap ... 53.3.0.pdf
Hillary destroyed evidence... the **** **** will go down... and I don't mean on obama again
10 Jun 2023 6:21 am
She will live to be an free old woman.FJB » 10 Jun 2023, 5:53 am » wrote: ↑ Hillary destroyed evidence... the **** **** will go down... and I don't mean on obama again
Unlike trump.
That old woman is in the ****.
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