Neo-Nazis in Ukraine Might be a Problem After All, Says New York Times

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By Majik
5 Jun 2023 8:56 pm in No Holds Barred Political Forum
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5 Jun 2023 8:56 pm
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The West is stuck in a dead-end where calling attention to Ukrainian soldiers wearing neo-Nazi uniforms “risks playing into Russian propaganda”, but ignoring it normalises the practice, the New York Times has belatedly admitted.A story which appears to break an important wartime media shibboleth that any critical examination of Ukraine is implicit support for Russia has been published in the New York Times, as it discusses the difficulties of Ukraine’s neo-Nazi-symbol-wearing frontline fighters.The report, referring to “thorny issues” in its headline, highlights several cases where Ukrainian and NATO authorities have been forced to take down social media posts promoting the work of Ukraine’s armed forces defending the country from Russia’s invasion. Featuring regimental and ‘morale’ patches accented with Nazi emblems like hooked crosses, sun wheels, and death heads, the images can present difficulties to those who know Vladimir Putin’s stated war goal of ‘deNazifying’ Ukraine is false because Ukraine is not a Nazi country.

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[Pictures of Neo-Nazi patches] threatens to reinforce Mr. Putin’s propaganda and giving fuel to his false claims that Ukraine must be “de-Nazified” — a position that ignores the fact that Ukraine’s president, Volodymyr Zelensky, is Jewish. More broadly, Ukraine’s ambivalence about these symbols, and sometimes even its acceptance of them, risks giving new, mainstream life to icons that the West has spent more than a half-century trying to eliminate.… So far, the imagery has not eroded international support for the war. It has, however, left diplomats, Western journalists and advocacy groups in a difficult position: Calling attention to the iconography risks playing into Russian propaganda. Saying nothing allows it to spread.
The very narrow double standard that now seems to apply to neo-Nazi-symbol-wearing soldiers in Ukraine was underlined by Glenn Greenwald as he wrote: “In the US, anyone with a MAGA hat is deemed a Nazi and must be destroyed… liberals see actual, real-deal Nazis in Ukraine and want to fund and arm them.”Rhetorically, he concluded: “Perhaps there may be long-term dangers to flooding Nazi battalions with advanced weaponry?”.The NYT article notes many in Ukraine see these historic symbols not as Nazi glyphs, but rather symbols of pride and independence — something the article even indicates the interpretations have in common with feelings about the Confederate ‘Southern Pride‘ flag in the U.S. — and that many, including Western anti-hate groups, have decided to stay silent on Ukraine for the sake of not appearing to support Russian propaganda.

https://www.breitbart.com/europe/2023/0 ... ork-times/

 
 
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Sumela
5 Jun 2023 9:15 pm
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Pre 2/24/22 the WEST MSM wrote 100s of articles about Uke Nazis....

Then they SUDDENLY sanitized them.... :rofl:   :rofl:  
 
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5 Jun 2023 9:16 pm
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righteous
5 Jun 2023 9:44 pm
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FOR DECADES, THE NEW YORK TIMES HAS ALWAYS MANAGED TO TRIP OVER THEIR OWN FEET, PRINTING INCORRECT INFORMATION AND RETRACTING, CLEARING UP THEIR MISTAKES AND "SO-CALLED MISPRINTS"

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Sumela
6 Jun 2023 12:54 pm
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NYT finally admitting that news sources

are covering for Nazis.....ask them to cover their

NAZI symbols during interviews

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Majik
6 Jun 2023 8:53 pm
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Sumela » 05 Jun 2023, 9:15 pm » wrote: Pre 2/24/22 the WEST MSM wrote 100s of articles about Uke Nazis....

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Yes, they did ...
just like everything else they are trying to revise.
 
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walkingstick
6 Jun 2023 8:54 pm
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usa economy depends on ukraine war!!! all major usa company earnings come from wars. stop wars. usa stock market will crash. all most all private sector workers will be fired. YES! the people of ukraine must die for usa!!!!
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6 Jun 2023 8:57 pm
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Majik » 06 Jun 2023, 8:53 pm » wrote: Yes, they did ...
just like everything else they are trying to revise.
**** America.
 
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MackTheFinger
9 Jun 2023 4:02 pm
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If it is in the NY Slimes...you know it has to be true.

BTW: What is a Uk neo-nazi ?

Do they hate Jews or are they just into cool uniforms. ?
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