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The other 21 member states have already assured Ukraine of support, the deputy head of President Vladimir Zelensky’s office saysMore than ten NATO member states out of 31 don’t want Ukraine to join the US-led military bloc, Igor Zhovkva, the deputy head of Vladimir Zelensky’s office, has stated.Kiev already has 20 signed declarations of support for its NATO bid, Zhovkva wrote on Facebook on Saturday. This means that 11 member states have so far refused to back Kiev's application.Zhovkva published his post hours after Zelensky and Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau signed a document in Kiev that signaled Ottawa’s consent to Ukraine becoming a part of NATO. "The joint declaration clearly fixes backing for Ukraine’s membership of NATO from the Canadian side as soon as conditions permit this. This is the strongest wording among all G7 countries that are NATO members," Zhovkva wrote.A similar declaration has also recently been signed with the government of Romania, Zhovkva added. READ MORE: NATO membership ‘unlikely’ for Ukraine now – US ambassadorAccording to the deputy head of Vladimir Zelensky’s office, those developments were "another stage of preparation for the successful NATO Summit in Vilnius in July" for Ukraine.Earlier this week, US envoy to NATO Julianne Smith told Politico that "a proper invitation" into NATO for Ukraine is "unlikely" as long as Kiev remains in conflict with Moscow.However, Smith pointed out that during the upcoming gathering in the Lithuanian capital, the bloc still wanted to send a message to Kiev that it was determined to keep helping it in the long term. There’s an "array of options" for NATO to do so, she added.Russia, which sees NATO’s eastward expansion as a major security threat, had singled out Kiev’s push to join the US-led military alliance among the main reasons for launching its military operation in Ukraine more than a year ago.

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Majik » 11 Jun 2023, 2:29 pm » wrote: ↑

11 Jun 2023, 2:29 pm

The other 21 member states have already assured Ukraine of support, the deputy head of President Vladimir Zelensky’s office saysMore than ten NATO member states out of 31 don’t want Ukraine to join the US-led military bloc, Igor Zhovkva, the deputy head of Vladimir Zelensky’s office, has stated.Kiev already has 20 signed declarations of support for its NATO bid, Zhovkva wrote on Facebook on Saturday. This means that 11 member states have so far refused to back Kiev's application.Zhovkva published his post hours after Zelensky and Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau signed a document in Kiev that signaled Ottawa’s consent to Ukraine becoming a part of NATO. "The joint declaration clearly fixes backing for Ukraine’s membership of NATO from the Canadian side as soon as conditions permit this. This is the strongest wording among all G7 countries that are NATO members," Zhovkva wrote.A similar declaration has also recently been signed with the government of Romania, Zhovkva added. READ MORE: NATO membership ‘unlikely’ for Ukraine now – US ambassadorAccording to the deputy head of Vladimir Zelensky’s office, those developments were "another stage of preparation for the successful NATO Summit in Vilnius in July" for Ukraine.Earlier this week, US envoy to NATO Julianne Smith told Politico that "a proper invitation" into NATO for Ukraine is "unlikely" as long as Kiev remains in conflict with Moscow.However, Smith pointed out that during the upcoming gathering in the Lithuanian capital, the bloc still wanted to send a message to Kiev that it was determined to keep helping it in the long term. There’s an "array of options" for NATO to do so, she added.Russia, which sees NATO’s eastward expansion as a major security threat, had singled out Kiev’s push to join the US-led military alliance among the main reasons for launching its military operation in Ukraine more than a year ago.

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Ukraine is nearly a failed state.

Thanks to BIDEN BIN LADEN
 

Let Ukraine sink or swim. No more money. Let Biden earn his own money. Quit using influence.

Sumela » 11 Jun 2023, 4:09 pm » wrote: ↑

11 Jun 2023, 4:09 pm

Ukraine is nearly a failed state.

Thanks to BIDEN BIN LADEN

That's been the plan from the beginning....
I have been doing a lot of deep diving into The WEF and it's plans for the Ukraine under their puppet Zelensky. ....
AND their puppets  Biden and Trudeau...

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Majik » 11 Jun 2023, 5:51 pm » wrote: ↑

11 Jun 2023, 5:51 pm

That's been the plan from the beginning....
I have been doing a lot of deep diving into The WEF and it's plans for the Ukraine under their puppet Zelensky. ....
AND their puppets  Biden and Trudeau...

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LOL, yes.  Soon it will be....BlackRock-istan
 

Sumela » 11 Jun 2023, 7:29 pm » wrote: ↑

11 Jun 2023, 7:29 pm

LOL, yes.  Soon it will be....BlackRock-istan

You, know it...
 

Majik » 11 Jun 2023, 7:49 pm » wrote: ↑

11 Jun 2023, 7:49 pm

You, know it...

Thank God Russia controls most of the best industrial areas and farmland!!    
 

Majik » 11 Jun 2023, 2:29 pm » wrote: ↑

11 Jun 2023, 2:29 pm

The other 21 member states have already assured Ukraine of support, the deputy head of President Vladimir Zelensky’s office saysMore than ten NATO member states out of 31 don’t want Ukraine to join the US-led military bloc, Igor Zhovkva, the deputy head of Vladimir Zelensky’s office, has stated.Kiev already has 20 signed declarations of support for its NATO bid, Zhovkva wrote on Facebook on Saturday. This means that 11 member states have so far refused to back Kiev's application.Zhovkva published his post hours after Zelensky and Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau signed a document in Kiev that signaled Ottawa’s consent to Ukraine becoming a part of NATO. "The joint declaration clearly fixes backing for Ukraine’s membership of NATO from the Canadian side as soon as conditions permit this. This is the strongest wording among all G7 countries that are NATO members," Zhovkva wrote.A similar declaration has also recently been signed with the government of Romania, Zhovkva added. READ MORE: NATO membership ‘unlikely’ for Ukraine now – US ambassadorAccording to the deputy head of Vladimir Zelensky’s office, those developments were "another stage of preparation for the successful NATO Summit in Vilnius in July" for Ukraine.Earlier this week, US envoy to NATO Julianne Smith told Politico that "a proper invitation" into NATO for Ukraine is "unlikely" as long as Kiev remains in conflict with Moscow.However, Smith pointed out that during the upcoming gathering in the Lithuanian capital, the bloc still wanted to send a message to Kiev that it was determined to keep helping it in the long term. There’s an "array of options" for NATO to do so, she added.Russia, which sees NATO’s eastward expansion as a major security threat, had singled out Kiev’s push to join the US-led military alliance among the main reasons for launching its military operation in Ukraine more than a year ago.

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That confirms it. If Trudeau backs it, it must be really **** up.
 

Sumela » 11 Jun 2023, 7:51 pm » wrote: ↑

11 Jun 2023, 7:51 pm

Thank God Russia controls most of the best industrial areas and farmland!!  

He may Control more if these cocksuckers keep escalating....

 

What we are witnessing is that...

Russia does not need the EU or the West.

but the EU desperately needs Russia. Its fun to watch

DeezerShoove » 11 Jun 2023, 8:40 pm » wrote: ↑

11 Jun 2023, 8:40 pm

That confirms it. If Trudeau backs it, it must be really **** up.

Trudeau and Freeland can go burn in hell......along with the *** Jagmeet Singh whom has propped up this Liberal dictatorship that only has a 29% approval rating .....

 
 

Majik » 11 Jun 2023, 8:48 pm » wrote: ↑

11 Jun 2023, 8:48 pm

He may Control more if these cocksuckers keep escalating....

You nailed it brother. 
I never thought they had any interest west of the Dnieper.  Now?  Its all a ball game.
Problem is....its hard to occupy that much land.
 

Sumela » 11 Jun 2023, 8:56 pm » wrote: ↑

11 Jun 2023, 8:56 pm

You nailed it brother. 
I never thought they had any interest west of the Dnieper.  Now?  Its all a ball game.
Problem is....its hard to occupy that much land.

Russian Generals and members of the Duma are starting to put pressure on Putin to be more decisive and widen the scope of their goals while others are also wanting Putin to flatten Kiev and force Zelensky to flee to Poland .
and then there are the hardliner's whom want Putin to strike NATO's core cities especially in Germany, Britian, Belgium etc...because their reasoning is what the **** can NATO  do about it besides complain...and if America wants to play Nuclear Chicken ..we invented the game of Chicken.
And that my friend is how escalation can be a dangerous thing ....especially to Europe and NATO.

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Majik » 11 Jun 2023, 9:18 pm » wrote: ↑

11 Jun 2023, 9:18 pm

Russian Generals and members of the Duma are starting to put pressure on Putin to be more decisive and widen the scope of their goals while others are also wanting Putin to flatten Kiev and force Zelensky to flee to Poland .
and then there are the hardliner's whom want Putin to strike NATO's core cities especially in Germany, Britian, Belgium etc...because their reasoning is what the **** can NATO  do about it besides complain...and if America wants to play Nuclear Chicken ..we invented the game of Chicken.
And that my friend is how escalation can be a dangerous thing ....especially to Europe and NATO.

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I have read and understand that view.  In terms of Russian politics, Putin is a moderate.  
He sees Ukes as brother Slavs.  However, as you say 50% of the Duma are much more
hawks and conservative in terms of Russian nationalism.

Why these Neocon turds want Putin dead is such simplistic hubris. 
What would follow is much worse for the West.
 

Sumela » 11 Jun 2023, 9:40 pm » wrote: ↑

11 Jun 2023, 9:40 pm

I have read and understand that view.  In terms of Russian politics, Putin is a moderate.  
He sees Ukes as brother Slavs.  However, as you say 50% of the Duma are much more
hawks and conservative in terms of Russian nationalism.

Why these Neocon turds want Putin dead is such simplistic hubris. 
What would follow is much worse for the West.

 Well, most Americans are totally ignorant of the fact that Putin is a moderate and is the only thing holding back the hardliner's whom would have already flattened the Ukraine and probably would have already struck Europe just for **** and giggles.
because they do not fear America because of their vast nuclear arsenal and advanced first strike capabilities ....
And they know that America would not risk annihilation over the Ukraine or the destruction of a few European cities....



 

Majik » 11 Jun 2023, 10:16 pm » wrote: ↑

11 Jun 2023, 10:16 pm

 Well, most Americans are totally ignorant of the fact that Putin is a moderate and is the only thing holding back the hardliner's whom would have already flattened the Ukraine and probably would have already struck Europe just for **** and giggles.
because they do not fear America because of their vast nuclear arsenal and advanced first strike capabilities ....
And they know that America would not risk annihilation over the Ukraine or the destruction of a few European cities....

You are right,,,,,pop that popcorn and lets watch!!!  
 

Majik » 11 Jun 2023, 9:18 pm » wrote: ↑

11 Jun 2023, 9:18 pm

Russian Generals and members of the Duma are starting to put pressure on Putin to be more decisive and widen the scope of their goals while others are also wanting Putin to flatten Kiev and force Zelensky to flee to Poland .
and then there are the hardliner's whom want Putin to strike NATO's core cities especially in Germany, Britian, Belgium etc...because their reasoning is what the **** can NATO  do about it besides complain...and if America wants to play Nuclear Chicken ..we invented the game of Chicken.
And that my friend is how escalation can be a dangerous thing ....especially to Europe and NATO.
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If Putin DARES do such things, he will be FLOODED with complaints. FLOODED.

If he puts one TOE across any line we draw, we'll draw another line so fast it will make his HEAD spin.   

Putin can go back to Russia, and do this the easy way. Or he can learn the hard way that the best way to deal with western Karens is to NOT deal with western Karens. He's going to get himself labeled a transphobe, and then @Skans and his *** fake texan buddy will REALLY be miffed and peeved at him. 
 
 

Cannonpointer » 11 Jun 2023, 10:32 pm » wrote: ↑

11 Jun 2023, 10:32 pm

If Putin DARES do such things, he will be FLOODED with complaints. FLOODED.

If he puts one TOE across any line we draw, we'll draw another line so fast it will make his HEAD spin.   

Putin can go back to Russia, and do this the easy way. Or he can learn the hard way that the best way to deal with western Karens is to NOT deal with western Karens. He's going to get himself labeled a transphobe, and then @Skans and his *** fake texan buddy will REALLY be miffed and peeved at him.

You would think these western politicians including our's would want to try and avert any escalation that would lead to a world war and strive for peace before it's too late...
But no ....Their Lunatic Agenda demands a culling ....and they haven't figured out yet because they are Lunatics that they too are to be culled because the Agenda they serve has no problem sacrificing them and the electorates they serve  because after all they are all just pawns and don't even know it.....
and Skans can go **** himself ....
 

Let ‘em get overrun by the commies

Cannonpointer » 11 Jun 2023, 10:32 pm » wrote: ↑

11 Jun 2023, 10:32 pm

If Putin DARES do such things, he will be FLOODED with complaints. FLOODED.

If he puts one TOE across any line we draw, we'll draw another line so fast it will make his HEAD spin.   

Putin can go back to Russia, and do this the easy way. Or he can learn the hard way that the best way to deal with western Karens is to NOT deal with western Karens. He's going to get himself labeled a transphobe, and then @Skans and his *** fake texan buddy will REALLY be miffed and peeved at him.