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We call the Stare Decisis And you LOSERS will discover HOW FAST this entire case is totally DISMISSED AND SENT TO THE DUSTBIN OF **** CREATED AS A POLITICAL CUDGEL AGAINST YOUR HATED ENEMIES!!!

We are talking about the RULING in the "Clinton Sock Drawer" where the GOVERNMENT WAS TOLD TO GO **** ITSELF!!

In defending NARA, the Justice Department argued that NARA doesn’t have “a duty to engage in a never-ending search for potential presidential records” that weren’t provided to NARA by the president at the end of his term. Nor, the department asserted, does the Presidential Records Act require NARA to appropriate potential presidential records forcibly. The government’s position was that Congress had decided that the president and the president alone decides what is a presidential record and what isn’t. He may take with him whatever records he chooses at the end of his term.

 Judge Amy Berman Jackson agreed: “Since the President is completely entrusted with the management and even the disposal of Presidential records during his time in office,” she held, “it would be difficult for this Court to conclude that Congress intended that he would have less authority to do what he pleases with what he considers to be his personal records.”

 Judge Jackson added that “the PRA contains no provision obligating or even permitting the Archivist to assume control over records that the President ‘categorized’ and ‘filed separately’ as personal records. At the conclusion of the President’s term, the Archivist only ‘assumes responsibility for the Presidential records.’ . . . PRA does not confer any mandatory or even discretionary authority on the Archivist to classify records. Under the statute, this responsibility is left solely to the President.”

 I lost because Judge Jackson concluded the government’s hands were tied. Mr. Clinton took the tapes, and no one could do anything about it.

 The same is true with Mr. Trump. Although he didn’t keep records in his sock drawer, he gathered newspapers, press clippings, letters, notes, cards, photographs, documents and other materials in cardboard boxes. Then Mr. Trump, like Mr. Clinton, took those boxes with him when he left office. As of noon on Jan. 20, 2021, whatever remained at the White House was presidential records. Whatever was taken by Mr. Trump wasn’t. That was the position of the Justice Department in 2010 and the ruling by Judge Jackson in 2012.
 
 

Beekeeper » 14 Jun 2023, 8:24 am » wrote: ↑

14 Jun 2023, 8:24 am

We call the Stare Decisis And you LOSERS will discover HOW FAST this entire case is totally DISMISSED AND SENT TO THE DUSTBIN OF **** CREATED AS A POLITICAL CUDGEL AGAINST YOUR HATED ENEMIES!!!

We are talking about the RULING in the "Clinton Sock Drawer" where the GOVERNMENT WAS TOLD TO GO **** ITSELF!!

In defending NARA, the Justice Department argued that NARA doesn’t have “a duty to engage in a never-ending search for potential presidential records” that weren’t provided to NARA by the president at the end of his term. Nor, the department asserted, does the Presidential Records Act require NARA to appropriate potential presidential records forcibly. The government’s position was that Congress had decided that the president and the president alone decides what is a presidential record and what isn’t. He may take with him whatever records he chooses at the end of his term.

 Judge Amy Berman Jackson agreed: “Since the President is completely entrusted with the management and even the disposal of Presidential records during his time in office,” she held, “it would be difficult for this Court to conclude that Congress intended that he would have less authority to do what he pleases with what he considers to be his personal records.”

 Judge Jackson added that “the PRA contains no provision obligating or even permitting the Archivist to assume control over records that the President ‘categorized’ and ‘filed separately’ as personal records. At the conclusion of the President’s term, the Archivist only ‘assumes responsibility for the Presidential records.’ . . . PRA does not confer any mandatory or even discretionary authority on the Archivist to classify records. Under the statute, this responsibility is left solely to the President.”

 I lost because Judge Jackson concluded the government’s hands were tied. Mr. Clinton took the tapes, and no one could do anything about it.

 The same is true with Mr. Trump. Although he didn’t keep records in his sock drawer, he gathered newspapers, press clippings, letters, notes, cards, photographs, documents and other materials in cardboard boxes. Then Mr. Trump, like Mr. Clinton, took those boxes with him when he left office. As of noon on Jan. 20, 2021, whatever remained at the White House was presidential records. Whatever was taken by Mr. Trump wasn’t. That was the position of the Justice Department in 2010 and the ruling by Judge Jackson in 2012.

You mean when this is all over we get to laugh at the leftists here?   Cool.      

roadkill » 14 Jun 2023, 8:30 am » wrote: ↑

14 Jun 2023, 8:30 am

You mean when this is all over we get to laugh at the leftists here?   Cool.    

Totally.

First series of MOTIONS will have those "document" charges TOTALLY DISMISSED based on the CLINTON SOCK DRAWER RULING of one of their VERY OWN Judges!! So that means pretty much the REST of the case is DEAD as well. BECAUSE it will be ruled that the GOVERNMENT had ZERO RIGHT TO SEIZE ANYTHING!!

LAUGHING at these idiots will be a years worth of rubbing their little NAZI NOSES in their OWN NAZI ****!!
 

You LWNJ's need to READ THE ENTIRE ARTICLE!!

https://www.wsj.com/articles/clintons-s ... _lead_pos5

Beekeeper » 14 Jun 2023, 9:30 am » wrote: ↑

14 Jun 2023, 9:30 am

Totally.

First series of MOTIONS will have those "document" charges TOTALLY DISMISSED based on the CLINTON SOCK DRAWER RULING of one of their VERY OWN Judges!! So that means pretty much the REST of the case is DEAD as well. BECAUSE it will be ruled that the GOVERNMENT had ZERO RIGHT TO SEIZE ANYTHING!!

LAUGHING at these idiots will be a years worth of rubbing their little NAZI NOSES in their OWN NAZI ****!!

So I guess now we should ask them what the next hoax will be...it's fun for the whole family.   lol

roadkill » 14 Jun 2023, 9:36 am » wrote: ↑

14 Jun 2023, 9:36 am

So I guess now we should ask them what the next hoax will be...it's fun for the whole family.   lol

They've had ALL of them totally demolished and one would think, after the 2nd or 3rd one, they would realize that EVERYTHING their handlers and propagandists tell them happens to be ABJECT LIES!!

but, but, but, .....................we got him this time!

sunburn » 14 Jun 2023, 11:23 am » wrote: ↑

14 Jun 2023, 11:23 am

but, but, but, .....................we got him this time!

I lost count on the number of times they have been blustering and boasting that crap.

You have to ask, "are they REALLY this effing STUPID??"

Why yes, yes they are.

Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!
Keep on dreaming.

Squatchman » 14 Jun 2023, 12:29 pm » wrote: ↑

14 Jun 2023, 12:29 pm

Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!
Keep on dreaming.

So you are saying that Berman Jackson's ruling is a joke??

Funny how a DEMOCRAT DOJ argued that case and won ON THE SAME BASIS AS THE CHARGES AGAINST TRUMP!!

Suck on that one little CHILD!!

Judge Amy Berman Jackson agreed: “Since the President is completely entrusted with the management and even the disposal of Presidential records during his time in office,” she held, “it would be difficult for this Court to conclude that Congress intended that he would have less authority to do what he pleases with what he considers to be his personal records.”

 Judge Jackson added that “the PRA contains no provision obligating or even permitting the Archivist to assume control over records that the President ‘categorized’ and ‘filed separately’ as personal records. At the conclusion of the President’s term, the Archivist only ‘assumes responsibility for the Presidential records.’ . . . PRA does not confer any mandatory or even discretionary authority on the Archivist to classify records. Under the statute, this responsibility is left solely to the President.”

Squatchman » 14 Jun 2023, 12:29 pm » wrote: ↑

14 Jun 2023, 12:29 pm

Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!
Keep on dreaming.

You got him now! I am not a huge Trump fan but I do enjoy watching him embarrass his enemies. He correctly sees them as enemies, not just people with differing views, and treats them as such. 
 

Who is the PRA?

Presidential Records Act.