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EVs are more Dangerous on the Road
EVs are more Dangerous on the Road
By roadkill
26 Jun 2023 11:47 am in No Holds Barred Political Forum
26 Jun 2023 11:47 am
26 Jun 2023 11:51 am
Can you imagine millions on the road? How many will run out of charge while driving? And when they do you have to tow them, no putting a gal in and move on. We have grid lock now. EV's are a stupid idea
26 Jun 2023 11:59 am
EVs also pollute as much or more than gas rigs when you factor in the production of electricity and rare earth mining.PhiloBeddo » 26 Jun 2023, 11:51 am » wrote: ↑ Can you imagine millions on the road? How many will run out of charge while driving? And when they do you have to tow them, no putting a gal in and move on. We have grid lock now. EV's are a stupid idea
EVs are a scam.
26 Jun 2023 12:11 pm
No doubt. With much rare-earth mining, including in adversarial countries, the expense of replacing the battery, and the high purchase price of EVs, buying one is a mistake. I wonder how small trade-in values will be when those who bought one have an epiphany.PhiloBeddo » 26 Jun 2023, 11:51 am » wrote: ↑ Can you imagine millions on the road? How many will run out of charge while driving? And when they do you have to tow them, no putting a gal in and move on. We have grid lock now. EV's are a stupid idea
Then we have government ridiculously mandating all vehicles must eventually be EVs -- overreach and stupid -- surprise, surprise!
26 Jun 2023 12:12 pm
Don't forget the hundreds of thousands of black and brown slaves the dimocrats need to mine that cobalt for their green new dealroadkill » 26 Jun 2023, 11:59 am » wrote: ↑ EVs also pollute as much or more than gas rigs when you factor in the production of electricity and rare earth mining.
EVs are a scam.
26 Jun 2023 12:17 pm
The blissful ignorance of MAGA Republicans as to why them there Demorats buy them there lectric cars is something that makes me almost want hang my head in shame I ever held up a sign for Ronald Reagan. Surely we were not such slaves of ignorance then.
Today, this minute, not next year, an electric vehicle costs about three cents a mile to run:
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The national average cost of electricity is 10 cents per kWh and 11.7 cents per kWh for residential use. For further comparison, see Idaho National Laboratory’s Advanced Vehicle Testing graph of the energy cost per mile for electric-powered and gasoline-fueled vehicles.
For example, at 10 cents per kWh, an electric vehicle with an efficiency of 3 miles per kWh would have an energy cost of about 3.3 cents per mile. In comparison, a gas-powered vehicle that gets 22 miles per gallon at a fuel cost of $3.50 per gallon would have an energy cost of 15.9 cents per mile
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Not only is an EV fully five times per mile cheaper to run, it has no gasoline motor or transmission to service or eventually junk because they fail.
Little Republican Johnny was taught to read by the same teachers in the same schools as the rest of us.
He’s not stupid, he’s stubborn.
He refuses to read anything he disagrees with.
Might be some Deep State plot by Dr Fauci, you know?.
Today, this minute, not next year, an electric vehicle costs about three cents a mile to run:
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The national average cost of electricity is 10 cents per kWh and 11.7 cents per kWh for residential use. For further comparison, see Idaho National Laboratory’s Advanced Vehicle Testing graph of the energy cost per mile for electric-powered and gasoline-fueled vehicles.
For example, at 10 cents per kWh, an electric vehicle with an efficiency of 3 miles per kWh would have an energy cost of about 3.3 cents per mile. In comparison, a gas-powered vehicle that gets 22 miles per gallon at a fuel cost of $3.50 per gallon would have an energy cost of 15.9 cents per mile
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Not only is an EV fully five times per mile cheaper to run, it has no gasoline motor or transmission to service or eventually junk because they fail.
Little Republican Johnny was taught to read by the same teachers in the same schools as the rest of us.
He’s not stupid, he’s stubborn.
He refuses to read anything he disagrees with.
Might be some Deep State plot by Dr Fauci, you know?.
26 Jun 2023 12:20 pm
Warcok » 26 Jun 2023, 12:12 pm » wrote: ↑ Don't forget the hundreds of thousands of black and brown slaves the dimocrats need to mine that cobalt for their green new deal
Thanx for reminding the left. Of course...they don't like facts.
26 Jun 2023 12:31 pm
My Republican friends hated LED light bulbs.
Now they won’t buy anything else.
EV batteries are ten times cheaper than a decade ago.
In ten more years those batteries will be many times yet again cheaper.
By then Republicans will forget they ever didn’t like running their cars for three cents a mile.
And nobody will want, a gasoline car.
Now they won’t buy anything else.
EV batteries are ten times cheaper than a decade ago.
In ten more years those batteries will be many times yet again cheaper.
By then Republicans will forget they ever didn’t like running their cars for three cents a mile.
And nobody will want, a gasoline car.
26 Jun 2023 1:30 pm
26 Jun 2023 3:56 pm
Of course they do. All the energy that goes into the "battery" has to come from somewhere - i.e. burning some kind of fuel to make the electric turbine turn.roadkill » 26 Jun 2023, 11:59 am » wrote: ↑ EVs also pollute as much or more than gas rigs when you factor in the production of electricity and rare earth mining.
EVs are a scam.
26 Jun 2023 5:31 pm
Skans » 26 Jun 2023, 3:56 pm » wrote: ↑ Of course they do. All the energy that goes into the "battery" has to come from somewhere - i.e. burning some kind of fuel to make the electric turbine turn.
The green elite keep leaving that part out.
27 Jun 2023 7:07 am
Not only that, but consider the following:
- The very best lithium ion batteries have a top efficiency of only up to 78% within 3500 cycles. That means, that when they are new or functioning within specifications, 22% of the energy that goes into charging the battery is lost. Every charge wastes 22% of the electricity for charging. AT BEST!
- More energy is lost in the transmission of electricity to the charging station
- Even more energy is lost in the creation of the energy needed for charging EV's.
27 Jun 2023 8:40 am
Skans » 27 Jun 2023, 7:07 am » wrote: ↑ Not only that, but consider the following:
- The very best lithium ion batteries have a top efficiency of only up to 78% within 3500 cycles. That means, that when they are new or functioning within specifications, 22% of the energy that goes into charging the battery is lost. Every charge wastes 22% of the electricity for charging. AT BEST!
- More energy is lost in the transmission of electricity to the charging station
- Even more energy is lost in the creation of the energy needed for charging EV's.
That sounds about right.
27 Jun 2023 9:50 am
This is getting great.
Now they are trying to tax the Ev drivers.
They don't pay the gas tax... this is gonna get good. A 200 year tax- gubmint gadget in your car ? ....
Scheming all sorts of ways... watch your electric bill.... ev drivers.
HA!
you just wait. And see what happens.
27 Jun 2023 10:21 am
sootedupCyndi » 27 Jun 2023, 9:50 am » wrote: ↑ This is getting great.
Now they are trying to tax the Ev drivers.
They don't pay the gas tax... this is gonna get good. A 200 year tax- gubmint gadget in your car ? ....
Scheming all sorts of ways... watch your electric bill.... ev drivers.
HA!
you just wait. And see what happens.
Maybe they'll tax EV food...aka: coal.
27 Jun 2023 10:41 am
I just heard. That Biden admin is thinking of declaring a Climate emergency. Do everything executive order. Bypass congress.
We saw this coming didn't we.?
This cant be new -news. but it somehow got by me.
here they come.
yesterday it was pizza ovens.. today?
day is young.
27 Jun 2023 10:41 am
Do you realize nobody is going to really give a damn, with operating costs at three cents a mile?
Over 90% of the lead acid car batteries today are recycled, and so will EV batteries.
Not even the most MAGA Republican is going to want to buy anything but electrics in less than ten years.
EVs have one disadvantage. They have no more range than my father’s 1965 Galaxie 500, unless you pay extra.
Not only do they cost five times or more less to run, horsepower ratings of a thousand horsepower will be common.
Read all about it, from General Motors
https://www.gm.com/electric-vehicles#:~ ... %20future.
And Ford
https://www.carmagazine.co.uk/electric/ford/
They'll even peddle them on Fox News.
27 Jun 2023 10:51 am
EVs use the roads so they should pay for it along with the non-EVs. There is nothing perfect. Gas or EV.. each has costs and benefits. The existing EV technology has issues as @Skans laid out above.
27 Jun 2023 10:58 am
I'm curious if anyone has done a study on how these batteries hold up in cold climate states? I've never seen a battery hold up very long in 20 below zero. i wonder about that.impartialobserver » 27 Jun 2023, 10:51 am » wrote: ↑ EVs use the roads so they should pay for it along with the non-EVs. There is nothing perfect. Gas or EV.. each has costs and benefits. The existing EV technology has issues as @Skans laid out above.
27 Jun 2023 11:07 am
Someday they might be worth having but not now.Bruce » 27 Jun 2023, 10:41 am » wrote: ↑ Do you realize nobody is going to really give a damn, with operating costs at three cents a mile?
Over 90% of the lead acid car batteries today are recycled, and so will EV batteries.
Not even the most MAGA Republican is going to want to buy anything but electrics in less than ten years.
EVs have one disadvantage. They have no more range than my father’s 1965 Galaxie 500, unless you pay extra.
Not only do they cost five times or more less to run, horsepower ratings of a thousand horsepower will be common.
Read all about it, from General Motors
https://www.gm.com/electric-vehicles#:~ ... %20future.
And Ford
https://www.carmagazine.co.uk/electric/ford/
They'll even peddle them on Fox News.
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