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No better group  of Republican support can be found than white evangelicals, typically voting over 85% for Republicans.

But in recent years as far right ideology takes over in the leadership of major evangelical churches, they shed congregations and membership and influence.

The Republicans are not losing evangelical support, but they are losing numbers of evangelical supporters as those congregations decline.

  And here’s why that matters.

Next year in North Carolina, the largest church there will support women’s rights.

North Carolina is in play, for Democrats in 2024


 
 

The much bigger issue for WASH DC

is that the world is de-dollarizing

and moving toward China and Russia.

They know WASH DC is a mafia and cannot be trusted.

Nobody is obeying WASH DC any longer....hard to watch.

This is why sanctions on Russia have UTTERLY failed.

China helps countries build infrastructure.....

While Blinken SKY SCREAMS at countries to ,,,OBEY!

Much of the world is exhausted

at Blinken's SKY SCREAMING.

Only the Tranny EU still obeys.

I believe that on April 3, 33 AD that after a trial before the Sanhedrin council in Jerusalem Jesus was condemned to die for heresy and brought before Pilate, as the local council had no power to execute criminals.

And while Pilate found no fault in Him, to placate the howling mob, he ordered a century (100) of his soldiers to execute Him, on Calvary, and on that cross Jesus died, to redeem the entire world.

Every Christian believes as much to be called a Christian.

But Christ was never recorded as saying a single word about gays, or abortion, or any other political issue of His time or ours, and he didn’t forbid women from preaching about Christ.

All the evangelical doctrines about politics, every one, are man made by somebody other than Christ.

What Christ did say, would make the most liberal Democrat look conservative. He was against all violence, even in self defense, and what little he said about the rich was to condemn them, for their greed and worldliness.

The biblical Jesus, was far more “woke” than I’ll ever be.

If His story is true, and I have sure and certain faith it is, then Christ might be riding with Biden again, in 2024.

But Old Scratch, has his own minions working just as hard.

We will see which prevail next year.

Bruce » 02 Jul 2023, 8:55 pm » wrote: ↑

02 Jul 2023, 8:55 pm

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Published July 2, 2023 11:42am EDTOne of largest Christian churches in US departs Southern Baptists following vote to ban women from pulpitNorth Carolina-based Elevation Church boasted approximately 26,000 weekly congregants in 2022https://www.foxnews.com/us/one-largest- ... men-pulpit

No better group  of Republican support can be found than white evangelicals, typically voting over 85% for Republicans.

But in recent years as far right ideology takes over in the leadership of major evangelical churches, they shed congregations and membership and influence.

The Republicans are not losing evangelical support, but they are losing numbers of evangelical supporters as those congregations decline.

  And here’s why that matters.

Next year in North Carolina, the largest church there will support women’s rights.

North Carolina is in play, for Democrats in 2024

everyone knows the churches are turning gay

Bruce » 02 Jul 2023, 9:27 pm » wrote: ↑

02 Jul 2023, 9:27 pm

I believe that on April 3, 33 AD that after a trial before the Sanhedrin council in Jerusalem Jesus was condemned to die for heresy and brought before Pilate, as the local council had no power to execute criminals.

And while Pilate found no fault in Him, to placate the howling mob, he ordered a century (100) of his soldiers to execute Him, on Calvary, and on that cross Jesus died, to redeem the entire world.

Every Christian believes as much to be called a Christian.

But Christ was never recorded as saying a single word about gays, or abortion, or any other political issue of His time or ours, and he didn’t forbid women from preaching about Christ.

All the evangelical doctrines about politics, every one, are man made by somebody other than Christ.

What Christ did say, would make the most liberal Democrat look conservative. He was against all violence, even in self defense, and what little he said about the rich was to condemn them, for their greed and worldliness.

The biblical Jesus, was far more “woke” than I’ll ever be.

If His story is true, and I have sure and certain faith it is, then Christ might be riding with Biden again, in 2024.

But Old Scratch, has his own minions working just as hard.

We will see which prevail next year.

 Matthew 27:24-25

King James Version

24 When Pilate saw that he could prevail nothing, but that rather a tumult was made, he took water, and washed his hands before the multitude, saying, I am innocent of the blood of this just person: see ye to it.25 Then answered all the people, and said, His blood be on us, and on our children.
 

FOS » 02 Jul 2023, 9:41 pm » wrote: ↑

02 Jul 2023, 9:41 pm

 Matthew 27:24-25

King James Version

24 When Pilate saw that he could prevail nothing, but that rather a tumult was made, he took water, and washed his hands before the multitude, saying, I am innocent of the blood of this just person: see ye to it.25 Then answered all the people, and said, His blood be on us, and on our children.

​​​​​Surely, surely at some time in their lives, maybe by accident, the evangelical has to stumble across that passage.

It is recorded essentially the same in Mathew, Mark, Luke and John.


Pilate was Roman, he was a pagan, he didn’t observe the Hebrew religion.  He only ordered the Crucifixion to appease the local council.

Christ was murdered for opposing all the draconian laws and commandments found in the Old Testament and replacing them with just one, new commandment:
—-
 A new commandment I give to you, that you love one another: just as I have loved you, you also are to love one another.

—-
The evangelical still believes he must placate the Council.

Bruce » 02 Jul 2023, 10:04 pm » wrote: ↑

02 Jul 2023, 10:04 pm

​​​​​Surely, surely at some time in their lives, maybe by accident, the evangelical has to stumble across that passage.

It is recorded essentially the same in Mathew, Mark, Luke and John.

Pilate was Roman, he was a pagan, he didn’t observe the Hebrew religion.  He only ordered the Crucifixion to appease the local council.

Christ was murdered for opposing all the draconian laws and commandments found in the Old Testament and replacing them with just one, new commandment:
—-
 A new commandment I give to you, that you love one another: just as I have loved you, you also are to love one another.

—-
The evangelical still believes he must placate the Council.

this passage means the jews killed jesus

FOS » 02 Jul 2023, 10:05 pm » wrote: ↑

02 Jul 2023, 10:05 pm

this passage means the jews killed jesus

Yer assuming Bruce has an actual belief system.   He is here to troll
 

FOS » 02 Jul 2023, 10:05 pm » wrote: ↑

02 Jul 2023, 10:05 pm

this passage means the jews killed jesus

One small group of Jews judicially murdered one Jew named Jesus.

The vast majority of people in Jerusalem that Friday likely never knew it happened, or didn’t care, any more than we care about a car wreck on the freeway.

And that passage, was penned by a Greek, in Koine Greek.  It was translated into Latin three centuries later, then into Elizabethan English well over a thousand years after that.

Then the evangelical reads his Bible as though Christ handed it down from the Mount of Olives all bound in leather with gold end leaves.

Jesus Christ died to save the world, not place a curse on the Jews.

 

Bruce » 02 Jul 2023, 10:23 pm » wrote: ↑

02 Jul 2023, 10:23 pm

One small group of Jews judicially murdered one Jew named Jesus.

The vast majority of people in Jerusalem that Friday likely never knew it happened, or didn’t care, any more than we care about a car wreck on the freeway.

And that passage, was penned by a Greek, in Koine Greek.  It was translated into Latin three centuries later, then into Elizabethan English well over a thousand years after that.

Then the evangelical reads his Bible as though Christ handed it down from the Mount of Olives all bound in leather with gold end leaves.

Jesus Christ died to save the world, not place a curse on the Jews.

"and our children"

FOS » 02 Jul 2023, 10:41 pm » wrote: ↑

02 Jul 2023, 10:41 pm

"and our children"

Assume that some one, or some few, in the mob, said that verbatim in Aramaic (language of the common people in Jerusalem) in response to Pilate’s Query (Pilate spoke Latin) and the Greek scribe nailed it exactly, in Koine Greek.

There is more, to the mob responding to Pilate’s Query

But they cried out, Away with him, away with him, crucify him. Pilate saith unto them, Shall I crucify your King? The chief priests answered, We have no king but Caesar.

And from thenceforth Pilate sought to release Him, but the Jews cried out, saying, “If thou let this man go, thou art not Caesar’s friend. Whosoever maketh himself a king speaketh against Caesar.”

——

Today it might be recorded

 Crucify this son of a bitch, or we’ll have your **** job!

It’s difficult to imagine the mob actually cared about Caesar.

Sumela » 02 Jul 2023, 10:16 pm » wrote: ↑

02 Jul 2023, 10:16 pm

Yer assuming Bruce has an actual belief system.   He is here to troll

In the church I was raised, no child was allowed to learn to read until they attended the first grade, at a local public school.

But from birth until we learned to read, we were immersed daily, and at church three times a week, in the entire Christ story, every parable, every sermon, every miracle, and especially every passage in red letters in the first four Gospels.
 
In addition, we were taught the children’s stories from the Old Testament, the good ones, like Adam and Eve and Noah and the Ark, and Daniel in the Lion’s Den, the stories fit to tell little kids.

I learned to read at college level in two years.  

I had to, in order to pass an examination from the elders (not including my father) over the first four gospels, to be baptized and join the church.

At that time, nearly sixty years ago, our church claimed we were less than one per cent of all Christians.

What I learned was, all organized Christian denominations  are entirely a set of doctrines, dogmas and creeds that are based on frail and error prone men, like I am.  Christ never wrote a single word he was said to have said, not even one.


My value system is I follow the Master, as best I can according to the most beautiful story ever told.


 

Bruce » 02 Jul 2023, 8:55 pm » wrote: ↑

02 Jul 2023, 8:55 pm

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Published July 2, 2023 11:42am EDTOne of largest Christian churches in US departs Southern Baptists following vote to ban women from pulpitNorth Carolina-based Elevation Church boasted approximately 26,000 weekly congregants in 2022https://www.foxnews.com/us/one-largest- ... men-pulpit

No better group  of Republican support can be found than white evangelicals, typically voting over 85% for Republicans.

But in recent years as far right ideology takes over in the leadership of major evangelical churches, they shed congregations and membership and influence.

The Republicans are not losing evangelical support, but they are losing numbers of evangelical supporters as those congregations decline.

  And here’s why that matters.

Next year in North Carolina, the largest church there will support women’s rights.

North Carolina is in play, for Democrats in 2024

Fixed Noise is PRECISELY as credible as MSDNC. 

No one cares. If repukes are losing support over silly **** like what you're talking about, what do you think democ rats are doing to themselves by molesting children and **** on women's rights to privacy, dignity and physical security?

As a transblack, do I have n-word privileges, fruity? And if not, why not? Respect my pronoun, ****. 
 
 

Bruce » 02 Jul 2023, 8:55 pm » wrote: ↑

02 Jul 2023, 8:55 pm

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Published July 2, 2023 11:42am EDTOne of largest Christian churches in US departs Southern Baptists following vote to ban women from pulpitNorth Carolina-based Elevation Church boasted approximately 26,000 weekly congregants in 2022https://www.foxnews.com/us/one-largest- ... men-pulpit

No better group  of Republican support can be found than white evangelicals, typically voting over 85% for Republicans.

But in recent years as far right ideology takes over in the leadership of major evangelical churches, they shed congregations and membership and influence.

The Republicans are not losing evangelical support, but they are losing numbers of evangelical supporters as those congregations decline.

  And here’s why that matters.

Next year in North Carolina, the largest church there will support women’s rights.

North Carolina is in play, for Democrats in 2024

 

I think you have it backwards in regard to churches. It isn't a move to the right but a move to the left. In the old days there were no women on the pulpit. Why? because that's the way it is in the Bible.

As women decide they want to minister and people decide that they want to marry the same sex and so on, the Bible becomes increasingly inconvenient...even for some churches.

The more depraved people become the more acceptable the democrat party seems.
 

michaelf » 03 Jul 2023, 3:15 am » wrote: ↑

03 Jul 2023, 3:15 am

I think you have it backwards in regard to churches. It isn't a move to the right but a move to the left. In the old days there were no women on the pulpit. Why? because that's the way it is in the Bible.

As women decide they want to minister and people decide that they want to marry the same sex and so on, the Bible becomes increasingly inconvenient...even for some churches.

The more depraved people become the more acceptable the democrat party seems.

The four gospels hold the best story 99% of Christians really haven’t ever actually read.

No Hollywood movie, no Broadway play, no novel ever written compares with the story of a young virgin Jewish girl Mary,  engaged to a man named Joseph, finding her self pregnant.

She walks the narrow streets of Nazareth, in Roman era Judea, to her fiancé’s carpenter shop, and tells him of her condition, and that the father is the Lord God.

Imagine Joseph, who at first is hesitant  but still wants to hide and protect Mary from the Council, who will have her stoned to death for fornication and  her heresy of claiming God is the father.  

It is not recorded, who, helped the young couple to flee to Joseph’s native town of Bethlehem, but Joseph’s mother is most likely.

They had to travel 90 miles to the city of Joseph's ancestors: south along the flatlands of the Jordan River, then west over the hills surrounding Jerusalem, and on into Bethlehem.

In her condition it might have taken two or three weeks for the journey, with every town presenting a risk the Sanhedrin would discover they were not married, and Mary killed along with her unborn child and Joseph as well, for his complicity.

But we know they did, make it to Bethlehem and there in a stable, the most famous unwed mother in the history of the world gave birth to Jesus Christ.

The couple was likely married in Bethlehem by a friendly rabbi, who either did not know or kept their secret, and then they returned to Nazareth, where Joesph and Mary had other children, and Joseph raised   Christ as though he was, His true father.

A Christian must understand, that the Sanhedrin without any doubt, have killed a pregnant, unwed Mary if she’d claimed to be the future mother of the Messiah, for heresy.

The Sanhedrin would murder the child, 33 years later, but spare Mary and others, that relayed to us the most beautiful story ever told.

 About one per cent at most, of Christians orally learn the entire story from the beginning in Nazareth until the end when Mary Magadeline finds two angels in the empty tomb, and Christ appears to her unknown, as a Gardener.

The Baptists call us Campbellites.

We call ourselves, Christians only.

We are the most conservative Christians, because we keep the story intact.

And we love to tell it

  https://youtu.be/HqddWm48DnY


 

Bruce » 02 Jul 2023, 8:55 pm » wrote: ↑

02 Jul 2023, 8:55 pm

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Published July 2, 2023 11:42am EDTOne of largest Christian churches in US departs Southern Baptists following vote to ban women from pulpitNorth Carolina-based Elevation Church boasted approximately 26,000 weekly congregants in 2022https://www.foxnews.com/us/one-largest- ... men-pulpit

No better group  of Republican support can be found than white evangelicals, typically voting over 85% for Republicans.

But in recent years as far right ideology takes over in the leadership of major evangelical churches, they shed congregations and membership and influence.

The Republicans are not losing evangelical support, but they are losing numbers of evangelical supporters as those congregations decline.

  And here’s why that matters.

Next year in North Carolina, the largest church there will support women’s rights.

North Carolina is in play, for Democrats in 2024


 
 

You are inaccurate, Spiritual priorities are God, Allah, Buddha, Mother Nature, Lady Justice, Lady Liberty, Satan, Country, Reality, Economics above anything else, including political physical needs as a species individually adapting to genetics eternally separating each ancestor ever born in this atmosphere lived and living here specifically one of a kind now.