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It's been revealed by my son that my granddaughter who will be 15 next week is deathly afraid of germs. It has been determined that during Covid, the incessant pounding by her school and the media on how "deadly" Covid was has put her into this state of constant fear of germs. 

she won't go out...
she won't visit friends...
she believes her school is filthy...
she believes her classmates are filthy...
she won't shower anywhere but in her own bathroom...

it's like WTF?

mom and dad have been working diligently with her to get rid of her fears...it's been a tough climb as they have made progress, but still have a long row to hoe...

the gubment, CDC and the schools have miserably failed the youth of today...makes me wonder how many other countless stories like this are there...

I’m sorry to hear of your grandfather, but excessive worry about cleanliness and disease might be symptoms of underlying psychological problems she needs professional therapy to overcome.

The schools have not had kids wash their hands often, for two or three years now.And when they did, it was only at school, and shouldn’t have affected her problems with cleanliness at home.

Kids have  it rough, growing up.

Help her as much as you can, as I know you will.
 

Bruce » 04 Jul 2023, 10:57 pm » wrote: ↑

04 Jul 2023, 10:57 pm

I’m sorry to hear of your grandfather, but excessive worry about cleanliness and disease might be symptoms of underlying psychological problems she needs professional therapy to overcome.

The schools have not had kids wash their hands often, for two or three years now.And when they did, it was only at school, and shouldn’t have affected her problems with cleanliness at home.

Kids have  it rough, growing up.

Help her as much as you can, as I know you will.

Your comprehension is not good.

DeezerShoove » 04 Jul 2023, 11:00 pm » wrote: ↑

04 Jul 2023, 11:00 pm

Your comprehension is not good.

Trolls have no interest in comprehension. 
 

DeezerShoove » 04 Jul 2023, 11:00 pm » wrote: ↑

04 Jul 2023, 11:00 pm

Your comprehension is not good.

Friend, Corvid is not completely over, but it’s over as far as a 15 year old should be concerned.

They don’t wear masks, don’t wash their hands, it’s history.

She needs help, from adults.  This  isn’t a phase she’ll grow out of.

Bruce » 04 Jul 2023, 11:07 pm » wrote: ↑

04 Jul 2023, 11:07 pm

Friend, Corvid is not completely over, but it’s over as far as a 15 year old should be concerned.

They don’t wear masks, don’t wash their hands, it’s history.

She needs help, from adults.  This  isn’t a phase she’ll grow out of.

Please stay away from other people. You seem **** up.

ROG62 » 04 Jul 2023, 5:49 pm » wrote: ↑

04 Jul 2023, 5:49 pm

It's been revealed by my son that my granddaughter who will be 15 next week is deathly afraid of germs. It has been determined that during Covid, the incessant pounding by her school and the media on how "deadly" Covid was has put her into this state of constant fear of germs. 

she won't go out...
she won't visit friends...
she believes her school is filthy...
she believes her classmates are filthy...
she won't shower anywhere but in her own bathroom...

it's like WTF?

mom and dad have been working diligently with her to get rid of her fears...it's been a tough climb as they have made progress, but still have a long row to hoe...

the gubment, CDC and the schools have miserably failed the youth of today...makes me wonder how many other countless stories like this are there...

I swam in sewage and ate out of dirty pans.
As a young boy, not much was too gross.
As an adult I very rarely get sick. 

My advocacy for children is don't coddle them.
Lead by example. Let the dog have some licks of the ice cream cone.
Pick up a hot dog from the lawn and eat it anyway. Throw mud. All that ****.

Explain to the kid that teachers are paid to be teachers. They have a boss and stupid rules.
All that disease crap magically disappeared when a different man was voted in.
It is all over-blown and used for politics. 
Then drop your piece of pizza and pick it up and say "5 second rule".

Diminish this programming to comedic levels and act completely contrary to the "scare".
Enablers would say "Gee, honey. I'm here for you. Yes, it's right to be terrified..."  <- That is ****.
 

DeezerShoove » 04 Jul 2023, 11:15 pm » wrote: ↑

04 Jul 2023, 11:15 pm

Please stay away from other people. You seem **** up.

There’s a 15 year old girl, who won’t go out, thinks her school is dirty, her friends aren’t clean, and she stays home.

The reality is her school is clean, her friends are clean, and she’s missing out on life, as a well adjusted, happy  kid.

She needs help, whatever caused it.

 

Bruce » 04 Jul 2023, 11:36 pm » wrote: ↑

04 Jul 2023, 11:36 pm

There’s a 15 year old girl, who won’t go out, thinks her school is dirty, her friends aren’t clean, and she stays home.

The reality is her school is clean, her friends are clean, and she’s missing out on life, as a well adjusted, happy  kid.

She needs help, whatever caused it.

I read the OP. You didn't apparently.
Your first reply was about grandpa. WTF?

The best thing you can do to help support kids being well-adjusted is to stay away.

DeezerShoove » 04 Jul 2023, 11:41 pm » wrote: ↑

04 Jul 2023, 11:41 pm

I read the OP. You didn't apparently.
Your first reply was about grandpa. WTF?

The best thing you can do to help support kids being well-adjusted is to stay away.

Damn auto fill.

Grandpa is fine, granddaughter needs some help.

My kids are always wondering how I don’t get food poisoning and die. And I remember my Daddy drinking from the creek and wondering the same about him.

 What would concern me, is her not wanting to go out with friends.  She could be saying they are dirty as a cover, for some other reason.

Young girls are so awful cruel to each other a man really can’t comprehend it. 



 

ROG62 » 04 Jul 2023, 5:49 pm » wrote: ↑

04 Jul 2023, 5:49 pm

It's been revealed by my son that my granddaughter who will be 15 next week is deathly afraid of germs. It has been determined that during Covid, the incessant pounding by her school and the media on how "deadly" Covid was has put her into this state of constant fear of germs. 

she won't go out...
she won't visit friends...
she believes her school is filthy...
she believes her classmates are filthy...
she won't shower anywhere but in her own bathroom...

it's like WTF?

mom and dad have been working diligently with her to get rid of her fears...it's been a tough climb as they have made progress, but still have a long row to hoe...

the gubment, CDC and the schools have miserably failed the youth of today...makes me wonder how many other countless stories like this are there...

I could see that happening to kids!!! That's a shame.
the only thing I'm a bit nervous over. is mouse turds in the kitchen.

 

DeezerShoove » 04 Jul 2023, 11:31 pm » wrote: ↑

04 Jul 2023, 11:31 pm

I swam in sewage and ate out of dirty pans.
As a young boy, not much was too gross.
As an adult I very rarely get sick. 

My advocacy for children is don't coddle them.
Lead by example. Let the dog have some licks of the ice cream cone.
Pick up a hot dog from the lawn and eat it anyway. Throw mud. All that ****.

Explain to the kid that teachers are paid to be teachers. They have a boss and stupid rules.
All that disease crap magically disappeared when a different man was voted in.
It is all over-blown and used for politics. 
Then drop your piece of pizza and pick it up and say "5 second rule".

Diminish this programming to comedic levels and act completely contrary to the "scare".
Enablers would say "Gee, honey. I'm here for you. Yes, it's right to be terrified..."  <- That is ****.

Agreed...play in the dirt, eat it, do whatever...she's doing more potential harm to herself at her age

he did say it's funny as how she's "selective" to what does or does not bother her...he said he cut up a bagel for her for lunch and half of it fell to the floor...they both looked at each other wide eyed gasping...he mentioned the '5 second rule'...she did pick it up and eat it....even with their dog in the house....

she'll get there...

sootedupCyndi » 05 Jul 2023, 5:21 am » wrote: ↑

05 Jul 2023, 5:21 am

I could see that happening to kids!!! That's a shame.
the only thing I'm a bit nervous over. is mouse turds in the kitchen.

definitely as their vulnerabilities were surely exposed...

what bothers me the most is while at the beginning of Covid, many unknowns existed, but keeping up the ruse after they knew it didn't affect children is reprehensible...
 

ROG62 » 05 Jul 2023, 5:31 am » wrote: ↑

05 Jul 2023, 5:31 am

definitely as their vulnerabilities were surely exposed...

what bothers me the most is while at the beginning of Covid, many unknowns existed, but keeping up the ruse after they knew it didn't affect children is reprehensible...

I KNOW! exactly. They lied. It was cruel. Especially the masks.
Can you imagine wearing those things all day. I couldn't do it.
It all was a big fat lie! Even the vax.
now they are trying to poison young kids with cartoon  porn in the schools.
 

ROG62 » 05 Jul 2023, 5:21 am » wrote: ↑

05 Jul 2023, 5:21 am

Agreed...play in the dirt, eat it, do whatever...she's doing more potential harm to herself at her age

he did say it's funny as how she's "selective" to what does or does not bother her...he said he cut up a bagel for her for lunch and half of it fell to the floor...they both looked at each other wide eyed gasping...he mentioned the '5 second rule'...she did pick it up and eat it....even with their dog in the house....

she'll get there...

Sounds like it. Good for her if she can shed the brainwashing.
For good or bad, I sometimes think teachers are out of touch with the influence they wield.

I can still remember specific instances from those days myself.
Some worthwhile and some really annoy me.
I imagine covid days will be with the kids for a long time and each is different.
Lockdowns and shots **** us all up. Especially the young (unnecessarily).

My sagittal suture has been sealed for a long time. Not much gets in anymore.  

sootedupCyndi » 05 Jul 2023, 5:37 am » wrote: ↑

05 Jul 2023, 5:37 am

I KNOW! exactly. They lied. It was cruel. Especially the masks.
Can you imagine wearing those things all day. I couldn't do it.
It all was a big fat lie! Even the vax.
now they are trying to poison young kids with cartoon  porn in the schools.

my grandson who's 10 has sensitive skin and broke out around his mouth wearing masks...what then?

the dr office was the worst...I'd get lightheaded because of the lack of oxygen exchange and hot...I always put a finger between chin and mask to get fresh air...

yep, to hell in a hand basket...
 

Yesterday I was in St Louis at Grant’s farm and they had a free water park. You can see the Clydesdale stables, huge horses running all over. There are exotic animals, scenic walkways, it’s all courtesy of the taxpayers of Glenwood, and they don’t look like they are hurting.

That water park was packed to the gills with the exact same kids as we once were, all of them old enough to swim and too young to drive. Parents were there watching them.

If a 15 year old girl doesn’t want to have fun with her friends today, it’s not COVID’s fault last year, or the year before.

She has problems with her friends.

ROG62 » 04 Jul 2023, 5:49 pm » wrote: ↑

04 Jul 2023, 5:49 pm

It's been revealed by my son that my granddaughter who will be 15 next week is deathly afraid of germs. It has been determined that during Covid, the incessant pounding by her school and the media on how "deadly" Covid was has put her into this state of constant fear of germs. 

she won't go out...
she won't visit friends...
she believes her school is filthy...
she believes her classmates are filthy...
she won't shower anywhere but in her own bathroom...

it's like WTF?

mom and dad have been working diligently with her to get rid of her fears...it's been a tough climb as they have made progress, but still have a long row to hoe...

the gubment, CDC and the schools have miserably failed the youth of today...makes me wonder how many other countless stories like this are there...

Take her camping in a rustic, natural mountain setting.  Pack in, pack out.  Make sure the hike in is at least 5-8 miles, near a stream and make her carry her own stuff.  She will be too busy to worry about germs.  By the time she realizes that she is sweat-soaked, hungry, dirty and tired, she will do whatever it takes to get clean, dry and comfortable before racking out for the evening. 

Most teen kids crave adventure, especially if there is a little danger and "unknown" that goes along with it. Give her a big bowie knife and tell her she better know how to use it.
 
 

Skans » 05 Jul 2023, 10:26 am » wrote: ↑

05 Jul 2023, 10:26 am

Take her camping in a rustic, natural mountain setting.  Pack in, pack out.  Make sure the hike in is at least 5-8 miles, near a stream and make her carry her own stuff.  She will be too busy to worry about germs.  By the time she realizes that she is sweat-soaked, hungry, dirty and tired, she will do whatever it takes to get clean, dry and comfortable before racking out for the evening.

She has no problem with her family, she won’t socialize.

I’m so damned old, the roller rinks were places to take a kid that wouldn’t socialize when I was 15.

Today it seems water parks serve the same purpose.

 

Bruce » 05 Jul 2023, 10:31 am » wrote: ↑

05 Jul 2023, 10:31 am

She has no problem with her family, she won’t socialize.

I’m so damned old, the roller rinks were places to take a kid that wouldn’t socialize when I was 15.

Today it seems water parks serve the same purpose.

A good looking teen will eventually socialize.  If the teen is homely, then what he/she needs to work on is becoming more handsome or beautiful. That builds self confidence.

As for being worried about cleanliness, I find this is more of a problem with teens that have nothing challenging to do other than sit around and worry about such things.  When you are in your teens, you really need to be working on yourself, not worrying about how to socialize.
When you are in your 20's, you need to seek out real adventure.
If you survive your 20's, then as you approach 30, you need to concentrate on those things needed to start a family.  If you don't survive your 20's (not due to drugs or alcohol), well, then you probably had one hell of a time!
 
 
In my next life....