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remember when tv sets were made in usa?

walkingstick » 05 Jul 2023, 4:33 am » wrote: ↑

05 Jul 2023, 4:33 am

remember when tv sets were made in usa?

Was it in the 1970's or 1980's America was being transformed into a service nation, not a manufacturing one? Seems that narrative reached fruition Clinton, Bush, Obama, and Biden terms and their allied rhino's, independents, libertarians, socialists, communists, scientologists, pagans, and all those that believe now isn't eternity where genetics keeps reproductions eternally separated as arriving one ata time since inception of this space into the 8 billion sole replacements living here now.

How I came to exist, so I figured everything else with a limited time span as specifically adapting in the same space I am has to navigate around each other here in series parallel displacement.

Take away reasonable doubt living isn't that difficult to manage civilly. Seems civic minded ideologies put everyone into honoring boxed in opinions now isn't eternity as ancestrally performed, by my own ancestry as well..

walkingstick » 05 Jul 2023, 4:33 am » wrote: ↑

05 Jul 2023, 4:33 am

remember when tv sets were made in usa?

Heavy manufacturing has gone overseas.  The negative to that is that we Americans are at the mercy of the foreign manufacturers.  The positive to that is that we Americans are not drinking, breathing and eating the life-destroying chemicals that come from heavy manufacturing.  In other words, Russians and Chinese will be producing 3-eyed freaks.
 

Skans » 05 Jul 2023, 8:04 am » wrote: ↑

05 Jul 2023, 8:04 am

Heavy manufacturing has gone overseas.  The negative to that is that we Americans are at the mercy of the foreign manufacturers.  The positive to that is that we Americans are not drinking, breathing and eating the life-destroying chemicals that come from heavy manufacturing.  In other words, Russians and Chinese will be producing 3-eyed freaks.
 

Propaganda. ^^^^^^^^

Nostradamus'omh » 05 Jul 2023, 9:31 am » wrote: ↑

05 Jul 2023, 9:31 am

Propaganda. ^^^^^^^^

Agro Panda ^^^^^^^
 

Fox News or some other MAGA shill like it will blare

GM, Ford, and Chrysler going out of car business!!!

Yes they are, shifting over to all electrics.

And what gasoline cars make up the last of the gsssers, are boxy SUVs and pickup trucks.

After this year, the Mustang and Camaro and Corvette will be the only “cars” on the US market.

And I’m too damned old for one.

Detroit — Another sedan soon will join the mass grave of gas-powered models that have hit the dust.
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Chrysler will end production of the current generation of its full-size 300 after the 2023 model year alongside the Dodge muscle cars when Brampton Assembly Plant in Ontario closes for retooling to support an electrified platform, the Stellantis NV brand confirmed on Tuesday during the reveal of a final special edition at the Spirit of Detroit Plaza ahead of Wednesday's media day for the North American International Auto Show. Chrysler will launch its first EV by 2025 and expects to be an all-electric brand by 2028.

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I never thought, we’d live in a world with no real, full sized cars

Bobby Bare is still alive

He used to sing about Detroit City when it made cars

https://youtu.be/6G4bxA2Gfnc

Skans » 05 Jul 2023, 8:04 am » wrote: ↑

05 Jul 2023, 8:04 am

Heavy manufacturing has gone overseas.  The negative to that is that we Americans are at the mercy of the foreign manufacturers.  The positive to that is that we Americans are not drinking, breathing and eating the life-destroying chemicals that come from heavy manufacturing.  In other words, Russians and Chinese will be producing 3-eyed freaks.
 

and tanks and planes and missiles and guns and ammunition and MEN, not trannies.

sunburn » 05 Jul 2023, 10:50 pm » wrote: ↑

05 Jul 2023, 10:50 pm

and tanks and planes and missiles and guns and ammunition and MEN, not trannies.

Under Biden every arsenal is producing ammunition non stop, he’s building tanks and planes and ships at full production,,.,.

And he wants more military spending next year:

—WASHINGTON — Defense Department spending would surge to $842 billion in fiscal 2024, up 3.2% over FY23, under the budget proposal released by the Biden administration Thursday.The administration issued only limited details, but spotlighted $9.1 billion in proposed investments for the Pentagon’s Pacific Deterrence Initiative, meant to bolster U.S. force posture in the region amid increasing tensions with China. The spending plan also includes $37.7 billion for the Defense Department to continue modernizing the U.S. nuclear arsenal.
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All my life, the Republicans have wanted bigger defense budgets.

Merry **** Christmas.

 

Bruce » 05 Jul 2023, 11:09 pm » wrote: ↑

05 Jul 2023, 11:09 pm

Under Biden every arsenal is producing ammunition non stop, he’s building tanks and planes and ships at full production,,.,.

And he wants more military spending next year:

—WASHINGTON — Defense Department spending would surge to $842 billion in fiscal 2024, up 3.2% over FY23, under the budget proposal released by the Biden administration Thursday.The administration issued only limited details, but spotlighted $9.1 billion in proposed investments for the Pentagon’s Pacific Deterrence Initiative, meant to bolster U.S. force posture in the region amid increasing tensions with China. The spending plan also includes $37.7 billion for the Defense Department to continue modernizing the U.S. nuclear arsenal.
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All my life, the Republicans have wanted bigger defense budgets.

Merry **** Christmas.

yes, however there won't be much support for all of this manufacturing when all else goes away.  Dodge, or Chrysler probably makes all of the transmissions and gear works for heavy equipment; Detroit gear works.

And then there's electronics.

Just think how big the Military Industrial Complex will have to be if there are no more supporting industries.

They already control the USA...and it'll just get worse.

List all of the industries and support industries just to make a pencil!
 

sunburn » 05 Jul 2023, 11:23 pm » wrote: ↑

05 Jul 2023, 11:23 pm

yes, however there won't be much support for all of this manufacturing when all else goes away.  Dodge, or Chrysler probably makes all of the transmissions and gear works for heavy equipment; Detroit gear works.

And then there's electronics.

Just think how big the Military Industrial Complex will have to be if there are no more supporting industries.

They already control the USA...and it'll just get worse.

List all of the industries and support industries just to make a pencil!

842 billion for defense sounds big, but under Biden there’s just been explosive growth in GDP, so it’s only about 3% of a 26 trillion dollar economy.

When I was a kid in the sixties the USA spent 10% of GDP for tanks and guns and bullets and war stuff.

Not only, is Biden outpacing Ronald Reagan’s defense build up, over in Europe our allies are finally building up defense and even the Japanese are building arms, plus we’ve picked up the Scandinavian counties in NATO.

Talk about your arsenal of Democracy.

Biden is stronger on defense than any President since FDR

And even liberals agree, building tanks and guns and ships and war planes adds to growth.

They'd rather see it spent on peaceful things, but still…

 

Bruce » 05 Jul 2023, 11:41 pm » wrote: ↑

05 Jul 2023, 11:41 pm

842 billion for defense sounds big, but under Biden there’s just been explosive growth in GDP, so it’s only about 3% of a 26 trillion dollar economy.

When I was a kid in the sixties the USA spent 10% of GDP for tanks and guns and bullets and war stuff.

Not only, is Biden outpacing Ronald Reagan’s defense build up, over in Europe our allies are finally building up defense and even the Japanese are building arms, plus we’ve picked up the Scandinavian counties in NATO.

Talk about your arsenal of Democracy.

Biden is stronger on defense than any President since FDR

And even liberals agree, building tanks and guns and ships and war planes adds to growth.

They'd rather see it spent on peaceful things, but still…

wake up!
 
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walkingstick » 05 Jul 2023, 4:33 am » wrote: ↑

05 Jul 2023, 4:33 am

remember when tv sets were made in usa?

When was that?   I bet you cannot even give any date here.
First, TV sets had tubes. Then the tubes were replaced by modular circuit boards with transistors on them.
Tune sets were notoriously unreliable: one loose tube and the sound vanished or the picture was unwatchable.
And they were very expensive.  The first B&W set my father bought in 1953 cost $450, over half a month's salary, and it died spectacularly the night that the Andrea Doria collided with the Stockholm in NY harbor in 1956. It smoked, then there was a bright flash then a small ball of electricity rose out of the back of the set and went <*pop!*>.  It had a 14 inch screen and one small speaker.

It turns out that some people were better and faster at working with assembling circuit boards, notably people with smaller fingers who were skilled at using chopsticks, such as Japanese, Korean, and Chinese women.
There are still TV sets made in the USA, though most are assembled in Asia. You can google TV sets made in USA.

I have an old style 36" JVC that has outlasted three remotes and four converter boxes and was made in Mexico in 1990. I bought it, with a table for it to sit on, for $125 in a garage sale in 1996.  I have not replaced it because the picture is still great and it is very heavy and hard to move I took me and a friend three hours to get it out of the car and into where it sits today.
 

Xavier_Onassis » 07 Jul 2023, 10:30 am » wrote: ↑

07 Jul 2023, 10:30 am

When was that?   I bet you cannot even give any date here.
First, TV sets had tubes. Then the tubes were replaced by modular circuit boards with transistors on them.
Tune sets were notoriously unreliable: one loose tube and the sound vanished or the picture was unwatchable.
And they were very expensive.  The first B&W set my father bought in 1953 cost $450, over half a month's salary, and it died spectacularly the night that the Andrea Doria collided with the Stockholm in NY harbor in 1956. It smoked, then there was a bright flash then a small ball of electricity rose out of the back of the set and went <*pop!*>.  It had a 14 inch screen and one small speaker.

It turns out that some people were better and faster at working with assembling circuit boards, notably people with smaller fingers who were skilled at using chopsticks, such as Japanese, Korean, and Chinese women.
There are still TV sets made in the USA, though most are assembled in Asia. You can google TV sets made in USA.

I have an old style 36" JVC that has outlasted three remotes and four converter boxes and was made in Mexico in 1990. I bought it, with a table for it to sit on, for $125 in a garage sale in 1996.  I have not replaced it because the picture is still great and it is very heavy and hard to move I took me and a friend three hours to get it out of the car and into where it sits today.

I’m so privileged and so grateful and so thankful that while all the odds said I’d be born a hillbilly a half mile South of Big Tussle, instead as a child I’d listen to my father and his friends debate why the Andrea Dora collided with the Stockholm, ten years earlier.

They didn’t attempt to adjust the AFT and tint and color and tone on the brand new $700 RCA television though.

That was my job.  I’d read all the manuals.



 

GMC sold over a million Buicks in China last year, it is the best selling brand with a foreign nameplate. 
Walkingstick is am expert at making up dumb crap to post here. Ford and GMC are making a good profit and their stock is paying dividends.

Bruce » 05 Jul 2023, 8:02 pm » wrote: ↑

05 Jul 2023, 8:02 pm

Fox News or some other MAGA shill like it will blare

GM, Ford, and Chrysler going out of car business!!!

Yes they are, shifting over to all electrics.

And what gasoline cars make up the last of the gsssers, are boxy SUVs and pickup trucks.

After this year, the Mustang and Camaro and Corvette will be the only “cars” on the US market.

And I’m too damned old for one.

Detroit — Another sedan soon will join the mass grave of gas-powered models that have hit the dust.
——
Chrysler will end production of the current generation of its full-size 300 after the 2023 model year alongside the Dodge muscle cars when Brampton Assembly Plant in Ontario closes for retooling to support an electrified platform, the Stellantis NV brand confirmed on Tuesday during the reveal of a final special edition at the Spirit of Detroit Plaza ahead of Wednesday's media day for the North American International Auto Show. Chrysler will launch its first EV by 2025 and expects to be an all-electric brand by 2028.

—-

I never thought, we’d live in a world with no real, full sized cars

Bobby Bare is still alive

He used to sing about Detroit City when it made cars

https://youtu.be/6G4bxA2Gfnc

I'm all for sustainable energy. However, this electric vehicle technology seems to be an apple for apple kind of deal. Yes, it emits less CO2, in the long run. However, it doesn't use renewable energy anymore than oil. The batteries need cobalt, nikel, and lithium. All are not in abundance. There is more oil than these minerals. Not to mention that the mining for these minerals are done with children. Tesla and the other companies vowed to never use mining companies that use child labor. However, this has already proven to be false. It's just swept under the rug. At least oil companies don't exploit children when they mine. Nonetheless, the ecological damage is equal to the pollution from oil. Apples for apples. 

Vegas » 07 Jul 2023, 11:21 am » wrote: ↑

07 Jul 2023, 11:21 am

I'm all for sustainable energy. However, this electric vehicle technology seems to be an apple for apple kind of deal. Yes, it emits less CO2, in the long run. However, it doesn't use renewable energy anymore than oil. The batteries need cobalt, nikel, and lithium. All are not in abundance. There is more oil than these minerals. Not to mention that the mining for these minerals are done with children. Tesla and the other companies vowed to never use mining companies that use child labor. However, this has already proven to be false. It's just swept under the rug. At least oil companies don't exploit children when they mine. Nonetheless, the ecological damage is equal to the pollution from oil. Apples for apples.

My wife is a thousand times more progressive than I’ll ever be.  I’m mainly afraid of going to hell over having spent the best part of my life a Republican.

She loves our huge Suburban and so do I.  Even with her driving foot to the floor it gets 15mpg, crowding  20 if driven sensibly.

On the way to Grant’s Farm on the 4th of July she was shocked and amazed I was arguing we need an electric, maybe next year or year after.

She asked where would we charge it up?

I hit the Garmin (I’m a first class co pilot) and there were all the places.

And I said the electrics will have built in bird dogs for that.  

She asked what about the range?

I said every one will make Grant’s Farm.  Most will turn around and come home.

She asked what about the grid?

I said we’d have charged it up last night.

And if we would top it off today, we’d only be a fraction of those who charge at home.

She said aren’t they expensive?

I said about half what a new Suburban costs.

And I added, we are going to spend over a hundred dollars for gas.

An electric might use twenty dollars of electricity.

Plus it would be much cheaper to maintain.

She said, let’s wait another three years, and we’ll see.

When the changeover comes, nobody will ever miss gasoline cars, that owned one.
 

Bruce » 07 Jul 2023, 12:27 pm » wrote: ↑

07 Jul 2023, 12:27 pm

My wife is a thousand times more progressive than I’ll ever be.  I’m mainly afraid of going to hell over having spent the best part of my life a Republican.

She loves our huge Suburban and so do I.  Even with her driving foot to the floor it gets 15mpg, crowding  20 if driven sensibly.

On the way to Grant’s Farm on the 4th of July she was shocked and amazed I was arguing we need an electric, maybe next year or year after.

She asked where would we charge it up?

I hit the Garmin (I’m a first class co pilot) and there were all the places.

And I said the electrics will have built in bird dogs for that.  

She asked what about the range?

I said every one will make Grant’s Farm.  Most will turn around and come home.

She asked what about the grid?

I said we’d have charged it up last night.

And if we would top it off today, we’d only be a fraction of those who charge at home.

She said aren’t they expensive?

I said about half what a new Suburban costs.

And I added, we are going to spend over a hundred dollars for gas.

An electric might use twenty dollars of electricity.

Plus it would be much cheaper to maintain.

She said, let’s wait another three years, and we’ll see.

When the changeover comes, nobody will ever miss gasoline cars, that owned one.

None of this addressed my post. The point is that EVs are no better for the environment than gasoline cars. I never said anything about comparing their functionalities. 

Vegas » 07 Jul 2023, 1:32 pm » wrote: ↑

07 Jul 2023, 1:32 pm

None of this addressed my post. The point is that EVs are no better for the environment than gasoline cars. I never said anything about comparing their functionalities.

My progressive wife doesn’t care, about saving our unborn great grandchildren.

She cares her next buggy is as good as the buggy she’s got.

If electrics are no worse for the environment, that’s good.

Because the main reason we will drive them is they will be much better than what we drive now, in almost every way to measure what’s better.

Bruce » 07 Jul 2023, 2:10 pm » wrote: ↑

07 Jul 2023, 2:10 pm

My progressive wife doesn’t care, about saving our unborn great grandchildren.

She cares her next buggy is as good as the buggy she’s got.

If electrics are no worse for the environment, that’s good.

Because the main reason we will drive them is they will be much better than what we drive now, in almost every way to measure what’s better.

I am not talking to your wife. I am talking to you.

Vegas » 07 Jul 2023, 2:23 pm » wrote: ↑

07 Jul 2023, 2:23 pm

I am not talking to your wife. I am talking to you.

I am for our generation using as much as we need, and **** the children yet unborn.  Serious.

MAGA is the worst threat to America.

Environmentalism is next.

It costs Democrats votes.