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Jay Valentine, who built eBay’s fraud protection engine, reports, “The voter fraud actually happened. The voting machines were connected to the internet, and it was industrial-level fraud that was committed.” He also offers the nuts and bolts of how this was done in detail. He is getting more attention these days as 2024 inches ever closer.Valentine’s explosive report on changes made to the voter rolls in Arizona right before the deadline and- in some cases, after the deadline, offers some astounding numbers. Some 33,000 zip codes were changed in one Arizona county, then, after the election, changed right back. His research found over 100,000 voter data changes were made after the deadline in Arizona alone.An article by Jay Valentine in The American Thinker this week, “A Line of Defense Against Mail-in Ballot Fraud,” exposes a concern that must be addressed before the 2024 election!Some of those concerns addressed by Valentine are:

• Ballots are mailed to vacant lots – or in Arizona, street corners.
• Ballots are sent to apartment buildings without the unit or APT number.
• Ballots were sent to college dorms for students registered there for decades.
• Ballots were sent to fraternities with the 105-year-old student.
• Ballots sent to churches – which have no bedrooms, thus cannot be someone’s domicile.
• Ballots for the person who moved – over a year ago.
• Ballots were mailed to hotels and casinos.
• Ballots where the address was modified – by the voter commission – like in Arizona – the week those ballots went out – thus missing the recipient.
• Ballots were sent to Manchurian restaurants, laundromats, banks, and 7-Elevens – all of which are not valid addresses for voters.
• Ballots are sent to UPS and FedEx boxes – sometimes to a dozen people living in that little box.
• Ballots were sent to the apartment building – but the address is the clubhouse – which has no bedrooms.
• Ballots sent to the 22,000 new voters in a single county entered just days before the election – who were invisible to Arizona Republican candidates in 2022.
• Ballots were sent to Mr. Gonzales, Mr. Gonzalez, and Mr. Gonzalles, all at the same address with the same date of birth.
• Ballots were sent to the Wisconsin college dorm that has 1,000 registered voters but can house only 250 adults.
• Ballots were sent to the 11 adults at the single-family Houston home that is 823 square feet with one bedroom and one bathroom.
• Ballots were mailed to people registered at an address in 2020, but the building was not built until 2022.
• Ballots are sent to the rehab facility for dozens of people who have claimed it as a residence for years. (Rehab is not a “years” thing.)

In an article by Valentine for American Thinker in November of 2022, he explains “database latency”:“County election managers changed the zip code of 31,000 voters on September 3. Ballots go out that week.  Those 31,000 are undeliverable.  Someone collects those valid ballots.  On September 15th, those addresses are quietly changed back.“The National Change of Address Database (NCOA) will not pick up those address changes.  They didn’t happen because there is no history.“The 31,000 citizens were getting their mail just fine — except for ballots.  Ballot addresses were driven by the county mail-in ballot database — the one that was changed, then changed back.“Many states send ballots to everyone; the recipient is none the wiser that they never received a mail-in ballot.  They may vote in person.  !  ‘You already voted!’  Ever heard that?”

https://www.independentsentinel.com/mor ... as-stolen/
 

This is all such bull **** there’s no place to start.

But there’s an ending

olitics Jul 16, 2021 7:35 PM EDT
PHOENIX (AP) — Arizona county election officials have identified fewer than 200 cases of potential voter fraud out of more than 3 million ballots cast in last year's presidential election, further discrediting former President Donald Trump's claims of a stolen election as his allies continue a disputed ballot review in the state's most populous county.

An Associated Press investigation found 182 cases where problems were clear enough that officials referred them to investigators for further review. So far, only four cases have led to charges, including those identified in a separate state investigation. No one has been convicted. No person's vote was counted twice.

While it's possible more cases could emerge, the numbers illustrate the implausibility of Trump's claims that fraud and irregularities in Arizona cost him the state's electorate votes. In final, certified and audited results, Biden won 10,400 more votes than Trump out of 3.4 million cast.

AP's findings align with previous studies showing voter fraud is rare. Numerous safeguards are built into the system to not only prevent fraud from happening but to detect it when it does.

"The fact of the matter is that election officials across the state are highly invested in helping to ensure the integrity of our elections and the public's confidence in them," said Arizona Secretary of State Katie Hobbs, a Democrat. "And part of that entails taking potential voter fraud seriously."

Arizona's potential cases also illustrate another reality: Voter fraud is often bipartisan. Of the four Arizona cases that have resulted in criminal charges, two involved Democratic voters and two involved Republicans.
—-

The Republican today is an odd creature.

His leaders say DON’T vote early!

Go stand in lines on Election Day.

So he stands in lines, and when the Democrats win,,,

He gets told,,,,,THEY CHEATED BY VOTING EARLY!

And the process repeats

Bruce » 10 Jul 2023, 7:53 am » wrote: ↑

10 Jul 2023, 7:53 am

This is all such bull **** there’s no place to start.

But there’s an ending

olitics Jul 16, 2021 7:35 PM EDT
PHOENIX (AP) — Arizona county election officials have identified fewer than 200 cases of potential voter fraud out of more than 3 million ballots cast in last year's presidential election, further discrediting former President Donald Trump's claims of a stolen election as his allies continue a disputed ballot review in the state's most populous county.

An Associated Press investigation found 182 cases where problems were clear enough that officials referred them to investigators for further review. So far, only four cases have led to charges, including those identified in a separate state investigation. No one has been convicted. No person's vote was counted twice.

While it's possible more cases could emerge, the numbers illustrate the implausibility of Trump's claims that fraud and irregularities in Arizona cost him the state's electorate votes. In final, certified and audited results, Biden won 10,400 more votes than Trump out of 3.4 million cast.

AP's findings align with previous studies showing voter fraud is rare. Numerous safeguards are built into the system to not only prevent fraud from happening but to detect it when it does.

"The fact of the matter is that election officials across the state are highly invested in helping to ensure the integrity of our elections and the public's confidence in them," said Arizona Secretary of State Katie Hobbs, a Democrat. "And part of that entails taking potential voter fraud seriously."

Arizona's potential cases also illustrate another reality: Voter fraud is often bipartisan. Of the four Arizona cases that have resulted in criminal charges, two involved Democratic voters and two involved Republicans.
—-

The Republican today is an odd creature.

His leaders say DON’T vote early!

Go stand in lines on Election Day.

So he stands in lines, and when the Democrats win,,,

He gets told,,,,,THEY CHEATED BY VOTING EARLY!

And the process repeats

Hey, simpleton:  The AP is part of MSM... The mouthpiece of the deep state assholes.

How can you expect them to turn their bosses in?

DeezerShoove » 10 Jul 2023, 8:05 am » wrote: ↑

10 Jul 2023, 8:05 am

Hey, simpleton:  The AP is part of MSM... The mouthpiece of the deep state assholes.

How can you expect them to turn their bosses in?

Another thing odd about Republicans 

They’ll say Obama was born in Kenya, here is PROOF!

And somebody else says, that birth certificate is a forgery.   Kenya was part of the United Kingdom in 1961 and that one says Republic of Kenya.

Aha, says the Republican, YOU ADMIT his birth certificate is a forgery.

Wishing it was so, doesn’t make it so.

Bruce » 10 Jul 2023, 8:27 am » wrote: ↑

10 Jul 2023, 8:27 am

Another thing odd about Republicans 

They’ll say Obama was born in Kenya, here is PROOF!

And somebody else says, that birth certificate is a forgery.   Kenya was part of the United Kingdom in 1961 and that one says Republic of Kenya.

Aha, says the Republican, YOU ADMIT his birth certificate is a forgery.

Wishing it was so, doesn’t make it so.

Read your own last line, faker.

DeezerShoove » 10 Jul 2023, 8:30 am » wrote: ↑

10 Jul 2023, 8:30 am

Read your own last line, faker.

I fell for a Fox News fable once.

They had this fat black woman on, wanting an Obama phone.  

I thought Obama was handing out free Obama phones.

Instead, it was a Reagan phone.

Before cell phones, Reagan passed a law when ATT was broken up that poor people, usually old ones on Social Security, had to be given free service paid by a small fee on phone bills.


Then Bush II extended that program to cell phones.

Obama phones are frauds.
 

Bruce » 10 Jul 2023, 8:38 am » wrote: ↑

10 Jul 2023, 8:38 am

I fell for a Fox News fable once.

They had this fat black woman on, wanting an Obama phone.  

I thought Obama was handing out free Obama phones.

Instead, it was a Reagan phone.

Before cell phones, Reagan passed a law when ATT was broken up that poor people, usually old ones on Social Security, had to be given free service paid by a small fee on phone bills.

Then Bush II extended that program to cell phones.

Obama phones are frauds.

Sorry. You are a blowhard. Seldom short and sweet.
I don't buy any of your ****.

Wow, under BIDEN REGIME

The US is a Banana Republic.

No wonder the world is gravitating to China for stability.

Bruce is a fine example of what's ****-up in America these days.

DeezerShoove » 10 Jul 2023, 8:40 am » wrote: ↑

10 Jul 2023, 8:40 am

Sorry. You are a blowhard. Seldom short and sweet.
I don't buy any of your ****.

Short and sweet

https://youtu.be/tpAOwJvTOio

 

@Majik all of that kinda infers the the USPS was the hub of mail in ballot fraud.
Who else would collect all of those ballots? or Return to sender?

Ballots are not sent out to everyone. Applications for mail-in ballots are. There is a difference.

maineman » 10 Jul 2023, 12:21 pm » wrote: ↑

10 Jul 2023, 12:21 pm

Ballots are not sent out to everyone. Applications for mail-in ballots are. There is a difference.

That's worse, clown.

Bruce » 10 Jul 2023, 7:53 am » wrote: ↑

10 Jul 2023, 7:53 am

This is all such bull **** there’s no place to start.

But there’s an ending

olitics Jul 16, 2021 7:35 PM EDT
PHOENIX (AP) — Arizona county election officials have identified fewer than 200 cases of potential voter fraud out of more than 3 million ballots cast in last year's presidential election, further discrediting former President Donald Trump's claims of a stolen election as his allies continue a disputed ballot review in the state's most populous county.

An Associated Press investigation found 182 cases where problems were clear enough that officials referred them to investigators for further review. So far, only four cases have led to charges, including those identified in a separate state investigation. No one has been convicted. No person's vote was counted twice.

While it's possible more cases could emerge, the numbers illustrate the implausibility of Trump's claims that fraud and irregularities in Arizona cost him the state's electorate votes. In final, certified and audited results, Biden won 10,400 more votes than Trump out of 3.4 million cast.

AP's findings align with previous studies showing voter fraud is rare. Numerous safeguards are built into the system to not only prevent fraud from happening but to detect it when it does.

"The fact of the matter is that election officials across the state are highly invested in helping to ensure the integrity of our elections and the public's confidence in them," said Arizona Secretary of State Katie Hobbs, a Democrat. "And part of that entails taking potential voter fraud seriously."

Arizona's potential cases also illustrate another reality: Voter fraud is often bipartisan. Of the four Arizona cases that have resulted in criminal charges, two involved Democratic voters and two involved Republicans.
—-

The Republican today is an odd creature.

His leaders say DON’T vote early!

Go stand in lines on Election Day.

So he stands in lines, and when the Democrats win,,,

He gets told,,,,,THEY CHEATED BY VOTING EARLY!

And the process repeats

that’s 200 too many 

RebelGator » 10 Jul 2023, 4:27 pm » wrote: ↑

10 Jul 2023, 4:27 pm

That's worse, clown.

Actually, if you had taken civics class in junior high school instead of backing up to the glory hole in the boy's room, you would know that it is definitely NOT worse.

Ballot applications need to be filled out by registered voters and their identity verified by town clerks before they are sent an actual ballot, and each registered voter only gets sent ONE.

Bruce » 10 Jul 2023, 7:53 am » wrote: ↑

10 Jul 2023, 7:53 am

This is all such bull **** there’s no place to start.

But there’s an ending

olitics Jul 16, 2021 7:35 PM EDT
PHOENIX (AP) — Arizona county election officials have identified fewer than 200 cases of potential voter fraud out of more than 3 million ballots cast in last year's presidential election, further discrediting former President Donald Trump's claims of a stolen election as his allies continue a disputed ballot review in the state's most populous county.

An Associated Press investigation found 182 cases where problems were clear enough that officials referred them to investigators for further review. So far, only four cases have led to charges, including those identified in a separate state investigation. No one has been convicted. No person's vote was counted twice.

While it's possible more cases could emerge, the numbers illustrate the implausibility of Trump's claims that fraud and irregularities in Arizona cost him the state's electorate votes. In final, certified and audited results, Biden won 10,400 more votes than Trump out of 3.4 million cast.

AP's findings align with previous studies showing voter fraud is rare. Numerous safeguards are built into the system to not only prevent fraud from happening but to detect it when it does.

"The fact of the matter is that election officials across the state are highly invested in helping to ensure the integrity of our elections and the public's confidence in them," said Arizona Secretary of State Katie Hobbs, a Democrat. "And part of that entails taking potential voter fraud seriously."

Arizona's potential cases also illustrate another reality: Voter fraud is often bipartisan. Of the four Arizona cases that have resulted in criminal charges, two involved Democratic voters and two involved Republicans.
—-

The Republican today is an odd creature.

His leaders say DON’T vote early!

Go stand in lines on Election Day.

So he stands in lines, and when the Democrats win,,,

He gets told,,,,,THEY CHEATED BY VOTING EARLY!

And the process repeats

Pssssst. CUMBREATH.

When the ONES DOING THE CHEATING are the same ones doing the "investigating", you NEVER find any "ELECTION FRAUD".,

Funny how you LWNJs just don't seem to understand HOW THAT WORKS now do you??

Majik » 10 Jul 2023, 7:46 am » wrote: ↑

10 Jul 2023, 7:46 am

Jay Valentine, who built eBay’s fraud protection engine, reports, “The voter fraud actually happened. The voting machines were connected to the internet, and it was industrial-level fraud that was committed.” He also offers the nuts and bolts of how this was done in detail. He is getting more attention these days as 2024 inches ever closer.Valentine’s explosive report on changes made to the voter rolls in Arizona right before the deadline and- in some cases, after the deadline, offers some astounding numbers. Some 33,000 zip codes were changed in one Arizona county, then, after the election, changed right back. His research found over 100,000 voter data changes were made after the deadline in Arizona alone.An article by Jay Valentine in The American Thinker this week, “A Line of Defense Against Mail-in Ballot Fraud,” exposes a concern that must be addressed before the 2024 election!Some of those concerns addressed by Valentine are:

• Ballots are mailed to vacant lots – or in Arizona, street corners.
• Ballots are sent to apartment buildings without the unit or APT number.
• Ballots were sent to college dorms for students registered there for decades.
• Ballots were sent to fraternities with the 105-year-old student.
• Ballots sent to churches – which have no bedrooms, thus cannot be someone’s domicile.
• Ballots for the person who moved – over a year ago.
• Ballots were mailed to hotels and casinos.
• Ballots where the address was modified – by the voter commission – like in Arizona – the week those ballots went out – thus missing the recipient.
• Ballots were sent to Manchurian restaurants, laundromats, banks, and 7-Elevens – all of which are not valid addresses for voters.
• Ballots are sent to UPS and FedEx boxes – sometimes to a dozen people living in that little box.
• Ballots were sent to the apartment building – but the address is the clubhouse – which has no bedrooms.
• Ballots sent to the 22,000 new voters in a single county entered just days before the election – who were invisible to Arizona Republican candidates in 2022.
• Ballots were sent to Mr. Gonzales, Mr. Gonzalez, and Mr. Gonzalles, all at the same address with the same date of birth.
• Ballots were sent to the Wisconsin college dorm that has 1,000 registered voters but can house only 250 adults.
• Ballots were sent to the 11 adults at the single-family Houston home that is 823 square feet with one bedroom and one bathroom.
• Ballots were mailed to people registered at an address in 2020, but the building was not built until 2022.
• Ballots are sent to the rehab facility for dozens of people who have claimed it as a residence for years. (Rehab is not a “years” thing.)

In an article by Valentine for American Thinker in November of 2022, he explains “database latency”:“County election managers changed the zip code of 31,000 voters on September 3. Ballots go out that week.  Those 31,000 are undeliverable.  Someone collects those valid ballots.  On September 15th, those addresses are quietly changed back.“The National Change of Address Database (NCOA) will not pick up those address changes.  They didn’t happen because there is no history.“The 31,000 citizens were getting their mail just fine — except for ballots.  Ballot addresses were driven by the county mail-in ballot database — the one that was changed, then changed back.“Many states send ballots to everyone; the recipient is none the wiser that they never received a mail-in ballot.  They may vote in person.  !  ‘You already voted!’  Ever heard that?”

https://www.independentsentinel.com/mor ... as-stolen/

 Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!
  Nice story.

BuckNaked » 11 Jul 2023, 5:29 am » wrote: ↑

11 Jul 2023, 5:29 am

that’s 200 too many

but way too few to justify starting an insurrection.

Majik » 10 Jul 2023, 7:46 am » wrote: ↑

10 Jul 2023, 7:46 am

Jay Valentine, who built eBay’s fraud protection engine, reports, “The voter fraud actually happened. The voting machines were connected to the internet, and it was industrial-level fraud that was committed.” He also offers the nuts and bolts of how this was done in detail. He is getting more attention these days as 2024 inches ever closer.Valentine’s explosive report on changes made to the voter rolls in Arizona right before the deadline and- in some cases, after the deadline, offers some astounding numbers. Some 33,000 zip codes were changed in one Arizona county, then, after the election, changed right back. His research found over 100,000 voter data changes were made after the deadline in Arizona alone.An article by Jay Valentine in The American Thinker this week, “A Line of Defense Against Mail-in Ballot Fraud,” exposes a concern that must be addressed before the 2024 election!Some of those concerns addressed by Valentine are:

• Ballots are mailed to vacant lots – or in Arizona, street corners.
• Ballots are sent to apartment buildings without the unit or APT number.
• Ballots were sent to college dorms for students registered there for decades.
• Ballots were sent to fraternities with the 105-year-old student.
• Ballots sent to churches – which have no bedrooms, thus cannot be someone’s domicile.
• Ballots for the person who moved – over a year ago.
• Ballots were mailed to hotels and casinos.
• Ballots where the address was modified – by the voter commission – like in Arizona – the week those ballots went out – thus missing the recipient.
• Ballots were sent to Manchurian restaurants, laundromats, banks, and 7-Elevens – all of which are not valid addresses for voters.
• Ballots are sent to UPS and FedEx boxes – sometimes to a dozen people living in that little box.
• Ballots were sent to the apartment building – but the address is the clubhouse – which has no bedrooms.
• Ballots sent to the 22,000 new voters in a single county entered just days before the election – who were invisible to Arizona Republican candidates in 2022.
• Ballots were sent to Mr. Gonzales, Mr. Gonzalez, and Mr. Gonzalles, all at the same address with the same date of birth.
• Ballots were sent to the Wisconsin college dorm that has 1,000 registered voters but can house only 250 adults.
• Ballots were sent to the 11 adults at the single-family Houston home that is 823 square feet with one bedroom and one bathroom.
• Ballots were mailed to people registered at an address in 2020, but the building was not built until 2022.
• Ballots are sent to the rehab facility for dozens of people who have claimed it as a residence for years. (Rehab is not a “years” thing.)

In an article by Valentine for American Thinker in November of 2022, he explains “database latency”:“County election managers changed the zip code of 31,000 voters on September 3. Ballots go out that week.  Those 31,000 are undeliverable.  Someone collects those valid ballots.  On September 15th, those addresses are quietly changed back.“The National Change of Address Database (NCOA) will not pick up those address changes.  They didn’t happen because there is no history.“The 31,000 citizens were getting their mail just fine — except for ballots.  Ballot addresses were driven by the county mail-in ballot database — the one that was changed, then changed back.“Many states send ballots to everyone; the recipient is none the wiser that they never received a mail-in ballot.  They may vote in person.  !  ‘You already voted!’  Ever heard that?”

https://www.independentsentinel.com/mor ... as-stolen/

Clueless Bruce will weigh in.   

Z09 » 11 Jul 2023, 7:51 am » wrote: ↑

11 Jul 2023, 7:51 am

Hate to remind you Bruce...

But the Kenya lie was started by the Hillary camp

Bruce is clueless.