You'd have to ask him. All I am saying is that suggesting that people go into the capitol on a day in the future can hardly be considered inciting speech.HillaryClinton » 14 Jul 2023, 1:44 pm » wrote: ↑ Of course not. You prefer weak posters you can buffalo.
If what Epps did was not illegal, as you claim, then why did he opine that he would likely be arrested for it?
BS and proof are not the same ...........Majik » 10 Jul 2023, 7:46 am » wrote: ↑ Jay Valentine, who built eBay’s fraud protection engine, reports, “The voter fraud actually happened. The voting machines were connected to the internet, and it was industrial-level fraud that was committed.” He also offers the nuts and bolts of how this was done in detail. He is getting more attention these days as 2024 inches ever closer.Valentine’s explosive report on changes made to the voter rolls in Arizona right before the deadline and- in some cases, after the deadline, offers some astounding numbers. Some 33,000 zip codes were changed in one Arizona county, then, after the election, changed right back. His research found over 100,000 voter data changes were made after the deadline in Arizona alone.An article by Jay Valentine in The American Thinker this week, “A Line of Defense Against Mail-in Ballot Fraud,” exposes a concern that must be addressed before the 2024 election!Some of those concerns addressed by Valentine are:In an article by Valentine for American Thinker in November of 2022, he explains “database latency”:“County election managers changed the zip code of 31,000 voters on September 3. Ballots go out that week. Those 31,000 are undeliverable. Someone collects those valid ballots. On September 15th, those addresses are quietly changed back.“The National Change of Address Database (NCOA) will not pick up those address changes. They didn’t happen because there is no history.“The 31,000 citizens were getting their mail just fine — except for ballots. Ballot addresses were driven by the county mail-in ballot database — the one that was changed, then changed back.“Many states send ballots to everyone; the recipient is none the wiser that they never received a mail-in ballot. They may vote in person.
- Ballots are mailed to vacant lots – or in Arizona, street corners.
- Ballots are sent to apartment buildings without the unit or APT number.
- Ballots were sent to college dorms for students registered there for decades.
- Ballots were sent to fraternities with the 105-year-old student.
- Ballots sent to churches – which have no bedrooms, thus cannot be someone’s domicile.
- Ballots for the person who moved – over a year ago.
- Ballots were mailed to hotels and casinos.
- Ballots where the address was modified – by the voter commission – like in Arizona – the week those ballots went out – thus missing the recipient.
- Ballots were sent to Manchurian restaurants, laundromats, banks, and 7-Elevens – all of which are not valid addresses for voters.
- Ballots are sent to UPS and FedEx boxes – sometimes to a dozen people living in that little box.
- Ballots were sent to the apartment building – but the address is the clubhouse – which has no bedrooms.
- Ballots sent to the 22,000 new voters in a single county entered just days before the election – who were invisible to Arizona Republican candidates in 2022.
- Ballots were sent to Mr. Gonzales, Mr. Gonzalez, and Mr. Gonzalles, all at the same address with the same date of birth.
- Ballots were sent to the Wisconsin college dorm that has 1,000 registered voters but can house only 250 adults.
- Ballots were sent to the 11 adults at the single-family Houston home that is 823 square feet with one bedroom and one bathroom.
- Ballots were mailed to people registered at an address in 2020, but the building was not built until 2022.
- Ballots are sent to the rehab facility for dozens of people who have claimed it as a residence for years. (Rehab is not a “years” thing.)
! ‘You already voted!’ Ever heard that?”
https://www.independentsentinel.com/mor ... as-stolen/
The "day in the future" was Jan 6, mouth ****.maineman » 14 Jul 2023, 1:48 pm » wrote: ↑ You'd have to ask him. All I am saying is that suggesting that people go into the capitol on a day in the future can hardly be considered inciting speech[SIC].
you'll have to ask him.Cannonpointer » 14 Jul 2023, 1:47 pm » wrote: ↑ What he says contradicts YOU, not me. If he broke no law, as you ****, why would he suggest that he DID break the law?
you don't whip up crowds that you send home to get a good night's sleep.Cannonpointer » 14 Jul 2023, 1:50 pm » wrote: ↑ The "day in[sic] the future" was Jan 6, mouth ****.
He was inciting VIOLENCE, not speech. He was addressing and whipping up protesters under the banner "Stop the Steal."
Whe you have to lie, it's an admission that your position is weak.
You are the person telling the lie he contradicts.
He was there the next day doing the same thing.maineman » 14 Jul 2023, 1:51 pm » wrote: ↑ you don't whip up crowds that you send home to get a good night's sleep.
I am not telling any lie. I am expressing my opinion. I don't think Ray Epps was a Fed, and I don't think that the reason he has NOT been charged is that he is a Fed. I have no idea what the feds actually have on him or don't have on him - and neither do you. I have no idea why the feds have not indicted him - and neither do you. Both of us may have opinions about those and other issues and we express them. When we do so, that is not LYING. You need to learn to speak with a great deal more precision, IMHO.
I have not seen videos on 1/6 of Epps instructing people to breach police barriers. that's a fact.Cannonpointer » 14 Jul 2023, 1:53 pm » wrote: ↑ He was there the next day doing the same thing.
He was instructing them to do a thing they were arrested for - breach police barriers and go into the capitol. If what he incited were legal, why were those he incited arrested?
When you have to lie, your position is weak.
It is more dignified to change your position than it is to lie in its defense, Groomer.
They arrested many who did, notwithstanding they were invited in by capitol police.
And if you DO see those videos, what difference will it make?maineman » 14 Jul 2023, 1:57 pm » wrote: ↑ I have not seen videos on 1/6 of Epps instructing people to breach police barriers. that's a fact.
FTFY
Don't forget "fight like hell".....maineman » 14 Jul 2023, 1:48 pm » wrote: ↑ You'd have to ask him. All I am saying is that suggesting that people go into the capitol on a day in the future can hardly be considered inciting speech.
"OK.... is your blood pumping now? are you mad as hell now? well then... go home, get a good night's sleep and tomorrow we'll go into the capitol." That is not whipping a crowd into a frenzy. lol
dammit where did i say he committed sedition?
If you could show me a post from me where I made that claim, that would be just ducky.Cannonpointer » 14 Jul 2023, 1:58 pm » wrote: ↑ . The video evidence disputes your hysterical claim that everyone arrested broke down barriers.
?BuckNaked » 14 Jul 2023, 9:17 am » wrote: ↑ ray Epps hasnt been
se·di·tion
/səˈdiSHən/
noun
- conduct or speech inciting people to rebel against the authority of a state or monarch.
that bit of incitement WAS said on 1/6... by the clown himself.
jeez that doesn’t say I’m accusing Epps of sedition
I'd have to see the videos themselves before I answer that.Cannonpointer » 14 Jul 2023, 2:00 pm » wrote: ↑ And if you DO see those videos, what difference will it make?
Why would that behavior on Jan 6 be more illegal that on Jan 5?
Here ya go, dissembling groomer:maineman » 14 Jul 2023, 2:54 pm » wrote: ↑ If you could show me a post from me where I made that claim, that would be just ducky.
Many were arrested simply for going into the capitol, which, according to you, is not illegal.maineman » 14 Jul 2023, 12:47 pm » wrote: ↑ going into the capitol is not illegal.
breaking down police barriers, assaulting LEO's, smashing doors and windows is.