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maineman » 15 Jul 2023, 10:21 am » wrote: ↑

15 Jul 2023, 10:21 am

You can continue to blather on about how 2020 was some sort of "coup", but you should put on your big boy pants and quit whining. 

2020 was anomalous, no doubt.  But it wasn't a coup.  There wasn't some evil conspiracy to fabricate votes where none existed or to rig voting machines.  There were only well-intentioned public officials trying to conduct an election in the midst of a deadly global pandemic for which there was not yet a vaccine.  NOTHING prevented Republicans from mailing in THEIR ballots instead of waiting until election day.  The rules changed and Democrats shifted gears and revised their GOTV strategy to optimize turnout using those new rules.  You **** snooze, you **** lose.  

You snoozed.  You lost.  **** GET OVER IT AND MOVE THE **** ON!

Christ!  I am so **** tired of you MAGA whiners!

who's whining? just making a point...

 here's a good read...

https://geopolitics.co/2020/06/29/ameri ... evolution/
 

BuckNaked » 16 Jul 2023, 9:46 am » wrote: ↑

16 Jul 2023, 9:46 am

You tell us

Oh, I think we all know the answer.  

maineman » 16 Jul 2023, 10:31 am » wrote: ↑

16 Jul 2023, 10:31 am

Oh, I think we all know the answer.

you think?

BuckNaked » 16 Jul 2023, 10:37 am » wrote: ↑

16 Jul 2023, 10:37 am

you think?

Yep

maineman » 16 Jul 2023, 10:52 am » wrote: ↑

16 Jul 2023, 10:52 am

Yep

mkay 
 

ROG62 » 16 Jul 2023, 10:07 am » wrote: ↑

16 Jul 2023, 10:07 am

who's whining? just making a point...

 here's a good read...

https://geopolitics.co/2020/06/29/ameri ... evolution/

If I have misread you, I apologize, but it seemed to me that you were part of the group of people here who refused to accept the fact that the Democratic party was more agile in modifying their GOTV efforts to optimize turnout during a pandemic and that was the reason Joe got more votes than Trump.  There was not some massive malevolent criminal conspiracy to steal the election away from Trump.  

You were totally unaware of the giant shift in tactics by the Democrats because you were not targeted by their GOTV plan.  Anyone they knew was a registered Democrat or who had contributed to any Democratic candidate in the past, or who had expressed support for Democratic candidates in the past, or who had expressed support for traditionally Democratic issues in the past - such as Planned Parenthood or Sierra Club or Greenpeace... or was a union member.... and on and on...the list of names was huge, and they all got called.  The first call was to confirm they still were going to vote for Biden, and thereafter, on a damn near weekly basis to check on 1.) whether they had gone to the SECSTATE website and ordered their absentee ballot and then 2.) had they filled in their ballot and then 3.) had they checked online to make sure their ballot had been received.   Seriously... my wife and I were called literally DOZENS of times.  We voted early because we were both retired and we really didn't have much going on socially in the midst of COVID so it was easy to do... AND... it finally got the phone bank to stop calling us and interrupting our evenings!  And it was easy.  And we DID get reminded, and that worked.  We didn't have to rush around on election day, and neither did the millions of other democrats who were subjected to the same full-court press GOTV onslaught and voted safely and leisurely from their living rooms or kitchen tables.

I'm gonna go out on a limb and just suggest that maybe you didn't get that sort of non-stop attention from the GOP, and, even if you had, that focus was not on getting you to vote early, but to commit to voting on election day, and, if not you, for many other folks, unforeseen events happen on election day that just make voting difficult... maybe even too difficult.   

We didn't steal anything.  We just switched our game plan...AND YOUR PARTY COULD HAVE EASILY DONE THE EXACT SAME THING. 
 

maineman » 16 Jul 2023, 11:13 am » wrote: ↑

16 Jul 2023, 11:13 am

If I have misread you, I apologize, but it seemed to me that you were part of the group of people here who refused to accept the fact that the Democratic party was more agile in modifying their GOTV efforts to optimize turnout during a pandemic and that was the reason Joe got more votes than Trump.  There was not some massive malevolent criminal conspiracy to steal the election away from Trump.  

You were totally unaware of the giant shift in tactics by the Democrats because you were not targeted by their GOTV plan.  Anyone they knew was a registered Democrat or who had contributed to any Democratic candidate in the past, or who had expressed support for Democratic candidates in the past, or who had expressed support for traditionally Democratic issues in the past - such as Planned Parenthood or Sierra Club or Greenpeace... or was a union member.... and on and on...the list of names was huge, and they all got called.  The first call was to confirm they still were going to vote for Biden, and thereafter, on a damn near weekly basis to check on 1.) whether they had gone to the SECSTATE website and ordered their absentee ballot and then 2.) had they filled in their ballot and then 3.) had they checked online to make sure their ballot had been received.   Seriously... my wife and I were called literally DOZENS of times.  We voted early because we were both retired and we really didn't have much going on socially in the midst of COVID so it was easy to do... AND... it finally got the phone bank to stop calling us and interrupting our evenings!  And it was easy.  And we DID get reminded, and that worked.  We didn't have to rush around on election day, and neither did the millions of other democrats who were subjected to the same full-court press GOTV onslaught and voted safely and leisurely from their living rooms or kitchen tables.

I'm gonna go out on a limb and just suggest that maybe you didn't get that sort of non-stop attention from the GOP, and, even if you had, that focus was not on getting you to vote early, but to commit to voting on election day, and, if not you, for many other folks, unforeseen events happen on election day that just make voting difficult... maybe even too difficult.   

We didn't steal anything.  We just switched our game plan...AND YOUR PARTY COULD HAVE EASILY DONE THE EXACT SAME THING.

States did not follow their constitutions sad 

maineman » 16 Jul 2023, 11:13 am » wrote: ↑

16 Jul 2023, 11:13 am

If I have misread you, I apologize, but it seemed to me that you were part of the group of people here who refused to accept the fact that the Democratic party was more agile in modifying their GOTV efforts to optimize turnout during a pandemic and that was the reason Joe got more votes than Trump.  There was not some massive malevolent criminal conspiracy to steal the election away from Trump.  

You were totally unaware of the giant shift in tactics by the Democrats because you were not targeted by their GOTV plan.  Anyone they knew was a registered Democrat or who had contributed to any Democratic candidate in the past, or who had expressed support for Democratic candidates in the past, or who had expressed support for traditionally Democratic issues in the past - such as Planned Parenthood or Sierra Club or Greenpeace... or was a union member.... and on and on...the list of names was huge, and they all got called.  The first call was to confirm they still were going to vote for Biden, and thereafter, on a damn near weekly basis to check on 1.) whether they had gone to the SECSTATE website and ordered their absentee ballot and then 2.) had they filled in their ballot and then 3.) had they checked online to make sure their ballot had been received.   Seriously... my wife and I were called literally DOZENS of times.  We voted early because we were both retired and we really didn't have much going on socially in the midst of COVID so it was easy to do... AND... it finally got the phone bank to stop calling us and interrupting our evenings!  And it was easy.  And we DID get reminded, and that worked.  We didn't have to rush around on election day, and neither did the millions of other democrats who were subjected to the same full-court press GOTV onslaught and voted safely and leisurely from their living rooms or kitchen tables.

I'm gonna go out on a limb and just suggest that maybe you didn't get that sort of non-stop attention from the GOP, and, even if you had, that focus was not on getting you to vote early, but to commit to voting on election day, and, if not you, for many other folks, unforeseen events happen on election day that just make voting difficult... maybe even too difficult.   

We didn't steal anything.  We just switched our game plan...AND YOUR PARTY COULD HAVE EASILY DONE THE EXACT SAME THING.

it's kinda hard to cheat on election day in person.   you suggesting if the Demonrats are doing it it's ok is proof the Demonrats don't care how they win, as long as they DO win.

BTW; you shouldn't have voted so many times and they wouldn't call you so often.  

sunburn » 16 Jul 2023, 12:46 pm » wrote: ↑

16 Jul 2023, 12:46 pm

it's kinda hard to cheat on election day in person.   you suggesting if the Demonrats are doing it it's ok is proof the Demonrats don't care how they win, as long as they DO win.

BTW; you shouldn't have voted so many times and they wouldn't call you so often.

We didn't cheat.  You all were just lazy.

I only voted once, and when I did, they stopped calling me.  That's how to maximize turn-out:  work hard AND smart.  The GOP did neither.  Driving around with your Trump flag flying on the back of your pickup truck does not translate to putting voters in voting booths on election day.  

And hey, even the clown himself says that you all have to do a better job at maximizing the mail-in vote.  Some MAGAt might be fully intending to vote after work, and then the boss asks them to pull a double shift, or the kid gets sick, or the babysitter backs out, and there goes a vote un-cast.  

Sucks to be stupid like you guys, eh?  Better luck next time, LOSER!    

BuckNaked » 16 Jul 2023, 12:21 pm » wrote: ↑

16 Jul 2023, 12:21 pm

States did not follow their constitutions sad

And they have been instructed to do so in the future.  Nothing in the adjusted rules mentions anything about one party versus the other.  If you all weren't smart enough to pivot to a new GOTV plan that focused on mail-in ballots, then shame on you.

WASH DC Elites.....would steal something?? SHOCKER.

A Mafia steal something? Yikes.

Like the continued THEFT of

SYRIAN LAND AND OIL??

America is a disease. Thank God its crumbling

maineman » 16 Jul 2023, 12:58 pm » wrote: ↑

16 Jul 2023, 12:58 pm

We didn't cheat.  You all were just lazy.

I only voted once, and when I did, they stopped calling me.  That's how to maximize turn-out:  work hard AND smart.  The GOP did neither.  Driving around with your Trump flag flying on the back of your pickup truck does not translate to putting voters in voting booths on election day.  

And hey, even the clown himself says that you all have to do a better job at maximizing the mail-in vote.  Some MAGAt might be fully intending to vote after work, and then the boss asks them to pull a double shift, or the kid gets sick, or the babysitter backs out, and there goes a vote un-cast.  

Sucks to be stupid like you guys, eh?  Better luck next time, LOSER!  

all 12 of your voters showed up at how many Biden "rallies"?

sunburn » 16 Jul 2023, 1:28 pm » wrote: ↑

16 Jul 2023, 1:28 pm

all 12 of your voters showed up at how many Biden "rallies"?

We didn't DO rallies... We did do socially distanced rallies at drive-in theaters that were simulcast EVERYWHERE. We did Zoom calls, phone banks, and myriad emails.  We pivoted.  We adjusted to campaigning during COVID and the GOP didn't.

Look.  I get it.  You're too stupid and lazy to run a modern political campaign. It takes brains and effort and you have neither.   You don't even have to admit it.  The proof is in the pudding.

sunburn » 16 Jul 2023, 1:28 pm » wrote: ↑

16 Jul 2023, 1:28 pm

all 12 of your voters showed up at how many Biden "rallies"?

Biden got 82 million votes from 50 million voters, end of story. These asswipes can spin it all they want, mail-in ballots were the vehicles they used to steal the election....but you knew that.  

maineman » 16 Jul 2023, 1:42 pm » wrote: ↑

16 Jul 2023, 1:42 pm

We didn't DO rallies... We did do socially distanced rallies at drive-in theaters that were simulcast EVERYWHERE. We did Zoom calls, phone banks, and myriad emails.  We pivoted.  We adjusted to campaigning during COVID and the GOP didn't.

Look.  I get it.  You're too stupid and lazy to run a modern political campaign. It takes brains and effort and you have neither.   You don't even have to admit it.  The proof is in the pudding.

That's not pudding on your face, Wilford.
 

RebelGator » 16 Jul 2023, 1:45 pm » wrote: ↑

16 Jul 2023, 1:45 pm

That's not pudding on your face, Wilford.

it's a big smile.  we kicked your *** in 2020, and then, when the Hobbs decision came down, SCOTUS turned your 2022 red tsunami into a little ripple.

funny stuff.

RebelGator » 16 Jul 2023, 1:44 pm » wrote: ↑

16 Jul 2023, 1:44 pm

Biden got 82 million votes from 50 million voters, end of story. These asswipes can spin it all they want, mail-in ballots were the vehicles they used to steal the election....but you knew that.

"End of STORY", with the emphasis on "story".  Mail-in ballots were the totally legitimate way we WON the election. NOTHING prevented your party from getting YOUR voters to mail their ballots in as well.  You were just too lazy and stupid to pivot.  You cannot point to ANY mail-in ballot that was a duplicate ballot cast by a voter who had cast another.  NOT ONE.  You make up that fiction because you don't have the character or the integrity to accept defeat and move on.  Coward.  ******.  Traitor.

maineman » 16 Jul 2023, 1:00 pm » wrote: ↑

16 Jul 2023, 1:00 pm

And they have been instructed to do so in the future.  Nothing in the adjusted rules mentions anything about one party versus the other.  If you all weren't smart enough to pivot to a new GOTV plan that focused on mail-in ballots, then shame on you.

follow the constitutions 

BuckNaked » 16 Jul 2023, 2:33 pm » wrote: ↑

16 Jul 2023, 2:33 pm

follow the constitutions

They will in the future.  Like I said...  well-meaning public officials worried about a public health emergency overstepped their authority, and their missteps have been corrected.  Those missteps did NOT explicitly favor one party over the other.  The Democrats were simply more agile and worked harder at their GOTV efforts changing their procedures to repeatedly stress to THEIR supporters that they needed to apply for mail-in ballots, fill in the applications, send the applications in, then fill out the ballot itself when it arrived back in the mail and get it BACK into the mail.  The party held every supporters hands throughout that process and it worked.  You lost and the evidence is abundant as to exactly HOW you lost and WHY you lost.  You were lazy and did not adapt your GOTV efforts (which, I have to say, have always been spotty pandemic or not) to deal with voting in the midst of a deadly pandemic for which there was not yet a vaccine.  

maineman » 16 Jul 2023, 1:42 pm » wrote: ↑

16 Jul 2023, 1:42 pm

We didn't DO rallies... We did do socially distanced rallies at drive-in theaters that were simulcast EVERYWHERE. We did Zoom calls, phone banks, and myriad emails.  We pivoted.  We adjusted to campaigning during COVID and the GOP didn't.

Look.  I get it.  You're too stupid and lazy to run a modern political campaign. It takes brains and effort and you have neither.   You don't even have to admit it.  The proof is in the pudding.

millions of people think you(Demonrat) planned it, or like you say, used Covid for your cover.
mail in voting has been known for eons is the easiest way to cheat and as a dorky
Demonrat said, "Never let a crisis go to waste"  or something to that affect.
covid, with all its many faceted cover--mail in ballots.- media almost completely with you - time to cheat;  It's now or never or death.