They are totally anti personnelVegas » 10 Jul 2023, 1:03 pm » wrote: ↑ Actually, it's Ukraine that's running out, not the US. Biden wants to send cluster bombs to help them take on the Russian invading tanks. Either way, it's not a good idea. Cluster bombs break apart into tiny bombs in the air, which make it impossible to prevent civilian casualties. They are not designed for precision.
Well respectfully, WASH DC did want and provoke the war...Vegas » 10 Jul 2023, 1:12 pm » wrote: ↑ True. And mark my words, they will blame America for losing.
2023, America are godless capitalist trannies.Neo » 10 Jul 2023, 1:11 pm » wrote: ↑ In 1963 the Russians were godless communists spreading atheism and a failed monetary policy. They worked to destabilize capitalist nations by directly supporting racial and cultural divisions found in such nations. They continue to support groups on both sides of the political isle, recently spending millions to support blm and the nra. Divisions help Russia, this strategy hasn't changed since 1920.
In 1963 the US was exporting freedom of speech, freedom of the press, freedom of religion. We gave billions to aid suffering around the globe with no expectation of recompense. We supported Judeo Christian values and nuclear families.
Things have changed since 1963. America no longer exports freedom but rather perversion. We no longer give billions to starving people, our corporations move in and exploit the vulnerable. Free markets are allowed as long as they do business using the American dollar. Those trying to get away from this often find themselves regime changed out of a job.
Times have changed. America is no longer the unquestionable force for good that we once were.
They didn't have anything we needed either.Neo » 10 Jul 2023, 1:18 pm » wrote: ↑ We just lost a 25 year war of attrition against a nation of nomadic goat ****. They didn't have nuclear weapons. They didn't have heavy industry. They didn't have indoor plumbing.
How many civilians died from cluster munitions?Bruce » 10 Jul 2023, 1:22 pm » wrote: ↑ They are totally anti personnel
A drone is going to spot a Russian regiment at chow
GPS sighted and laid NATO artillery 13 miles away is going to lay down a rain of cluster bombs.
The Russians have to live like animals, in hiding.
Only 3% of ours are duds.
97% are a rain of death
Why didn't we burn the opium fields again? Why were us troops killed defending these crops?Skans » 10 Jul 2023, 1:44 pm » wrote: ↑ They didn't have anything we needed either.
They didn't have access to the Pacific Ocean.
There was no reason to do anything inside of Afghanistan other than turn it into a land of glass as a warning and monument to the rest of the world "F- Around And Find Out".
All I can tell you is that I would have burned every living thing, plant or animal within the borders of Afghanistan. Do it from the air. Then, leave. And, if there are signs of life, do it from the air again. And again. Bomb every single building to rubble. Every water source, every electric station, everything.Neo » 10 Jul 2023, 2:16 pm » wrote: ↑ Why didn't we burn the opium fields again? Why were us troops killed defending these crops?
I supported bombing terrorist camps in Afghanistan. I didn't support invading, occupying and rebuilding their country. Winning hearts and minds at gun point has never worked. Failed in Korea. Failed in Vietnam. Failed in Iraq. Failed in Libya. Failed in west Africa. Failed in Afghanistan. We agree, war is about destroying the opponent. It's not about rebuilding **** under occupation.Skans » 10 Jul 2023, 2:28 pm » wrote: ↑ All I can tell you is that I would have burned every living thing, plant or animal within the borders of Afghanistan. Do it from the air. Then, leave. And, if there are signs of life, do it from the air again. And again. Bomb every single building to rubble. Every water source, every electric station, everything.
War is about Nation Destroying. Not Nation Building.
I agree wit the second part - never should have put boots on the ground in Afghanistan, except to get Bin Laden. But, I do support doing more than simply bombing terrorist camps. When a country has borders and claims land under those borders, that entire country is responsible for the acts of terrorist camps starting wars with other countries. Glaze over the entire Afghanistan. It would have been justified. And, it would stand as a memorial to that part of the world what happens when you pick wars you are not ready to fight.Neo » 10 Jul 2023, 2:49 pm » wrote: ↑ I supported bombing terrorist camps in Afghanistan. I didn't support invading, occupying and rebuilding their country. **** under occupation.
Afghanistan refused to turn over bin laden but he wasn't in their custody nor was he in a location under the control of the taliban afghan government. It wasn't a request they could have honored if they wanted to. If it was an American who organized the destruction of a building in North Korea, killing thousands of North Koreans, do you think we would extradite them to lil Kim? I don't. The request wasn't reasonable. Ignoring their sovereignty until bin laden was captured or killed was the correct approach.Skans » 10 Jul 2023, 2:51 pm » wrote: ↑ I agree wit the second part - never should have put boots on the ground in Afghanistan, except to get Bin Laden. But, I do support doing more than simply bombing terrorist camps. When a country has borders and claims land under those borders, that entire country is responsible for the acts of terrorist camps starting wars with other countries. Glaze over the entire Afghanistan. It would have been justified. And, it would stand as a memorial to that part of the world what happens when you pick wars you are not ready to fight.
Maybe dont train and create guys like Bin Laden??......crazy question, I know.Neo » 10 Jul 2023, 2:58 pm » wrote: ↑ Afghanistan refused to turn over bin laden but he wasn't in their custody nor was he in a location under the control of the taliban afghan government. It wasn't a request they could have honored if they wanted to. If it was an American who organized the destruction of a building in North Korea, killing thousands of North Koreans, do you think we would extradite them to lil Kim? I don't. The request wasn't reasonable. Ignoring their sovereignty until bin laden was captured or killed was the correct approach.
30% of the US injuries/deaths in Iraq were fromNeo » 10 Jul 2023, 2:16 pm » wrote: ↑ How many civilians died from cluster munitions?
56,500 to 86,500 civilians
Since World War II, cluster munitions have killed an estimated 56,500 to 86,500 civilians. They have also killed and wounded scores of American service members
Have you started your invasion of Russia from your living room sofa yet? Or did your *** grow roots in that thingSkans » 10 Jul 2023, 2:28 pm » wrote: ↑ All I can tell you is that I would have burned every living thing, plant or animal within the borders of Afghanistan. Do it from the air. Then, leave. And, if there are signs of life, do it from the air again. And again. Bomb every single building to rubble. Every water source, every electric station, everything.
War is about Nation Destroying. Not Nation Building.
I would be all for extraditing him to North Korea. In fact, the only thing I would request in return is a copy of the torture-snuff film showing his demise.Neo » 10 Jul 2023, 2:58 pm » wrote: ↑ If it was an American who organized the destruction of a building in North Korea, killing thousands of North Koreans, do you think we would extradite them to lil Kim? I don't.
SJConspirator » 10 Jul 2023, 3:32 pm » wrote: ↑ Have you started your invasion of Russia from your living room sofa yet? Or did your *** grow roots in that thing
They are already. Only an idiot cannot see that.Skans » 10 Jul 2023, 11:10 am » wrote: ↑ Whoopty do. So do we. And, we could use them first. Ever think of that? Crimea was ripe for the taking - Russia took it. Russia thought Ukraine was ripe for the taking, so it tried to take that too. Well, now Russia is weak and all of Eastern Russia is ripe for the taking. Stop being such a ****** and let's get what should and could be ours.
Because, if we don't......CHINA WILL!
Yes. I have.SJConspirator » 10 Jul 2023, 3:32 pm » wrote: ↑ Have you started your invasion of Russia from your living room sofa yet?
evidence shows that Saudi Arabia did 9/11Skans » 10 Jul 2023, 2:51 pm » wrote: ↑ I agree wit the second part - never should have put boots on the ground in Afghanistan, except to get Bin Laden. But, I do support doing more than simply bombing terrorist camps. When a country has borders and claims land under those borders, that entire country is responsible for the acts of terrorist camps starting wars with other countries. Glaze over the entire Afghanistan. It would have been justified. And, it would stand as a memorial to that part of the world what happens when you pick wars you are not ready to fight.