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As politicians flood corporate america with corporate welfare aka preferential tax codes galore how come America is getting nothing back in return? One of the ideas behind big business to small business was to keep America employed. This no longer seems to be the case. Of course employers would need to train new employees and why the hell not...... this is old school tried and successful.

USA business cannot survive without employees and consumers after all these two ingredients have made some USA business people stinking rich yet it is these two ingredients that seem to be getting screwed in the name of efficiency or other BS. AI = BS.   Hell business gets taxpayer bailouts and bankruptcy protection in the name of mismanagement. Students get screwed over.

If the business world is not going to train employees and stop price go!uging consumers I say in the name of  the USA economy pull all corporate welfare immediately.

Screw the Leveraged  Buyout Scams, Free Trade Zones and Private Equity Scams = tax them at 95%!!!
 
 

It is almost humorous how liberals think raising taxes on businesses (of any size) doesn't impact workers or consumers.

ConsRule » 17 Jul 2023, 8:27 am » wrote: ↑

17 Jul 2023, 8:27 am

It is almost humorous how liberals think raising taxes on businesses (of any size) doesn't impact workers or consumers.

These Leveraged  Buyout Scams, Free Trade Zones and Private Equity Scams = tax them at 95%!!!   Have cost millions of USA workers their jobs as they move beyond shores of the USA into communist dictator and Fascist Dictator countries = USA dollars supporting communist and fascist governments.

In addition to screwing the USA economy and economic growth........

It is humorous how fake republicans don't realize the negative impact Leveraged  Buyout Scams, Free Trade Zones and Private Equity Scams impact jobs,economic growth and consumers ...........

razoo » 17 Jul 2023, 9:05 am » wrote: ↑

17 Jul 2023, 9:05 am

These Leveraged  Buyout Scams, Free Trade Zones and Private Equity Scams = tax them at 95%!!!   Have cost millions of USA workers their jobs as they move beyond shores of the USA into communist dictator and Fascist Dictator countries = USA dollars supporting communist and fascist governments.

In addition to screwing the USA economy and economic growth........

It is humorous how fake republicans don't realize the negative impact Leveraged  Buyout Scams, Free Trade Zones and Private Equity Scams impact jobs,economic growth and consumers ...........

And you honestly think raising taxes on those businesses is going to make things better for workers?  If you do, you're a special kind of stupid.
 

Z09 » 17 Jul 2023, 9:26 am » wrote: ↑

17 Jul 2023, 9:26 am

Razoo thinks we need more taxes

No..
We need less spending

And he apparently doesn't understand taxes are just a line item expense for a business.  The business will do everything possible to maintain the bottom line they need.

razoo » 17 Jul 2023, 9:05 am » wrote: ↑

17 Jul 2023, 9:05 am

These Leveraged  Buyout Scams, Free Trade Zones and Private Equity Scams = tax them at 95%!!!   Have cost millions of USA workers their jobs as they move beyond shores of the USA into communist dictator and Fascist Dictator countries = USA dollars supporting communist and fascist governments.

In addition to screwing the USA economy and economic growth........

It is humorous how fake republicans don't realize the negative impact Leveraged  Buyout Scams, Free Trade Zones and Private Equity Scams impact jobs,economic growth and consumers ...........

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Pay people enough money so we don't need food stamps and health care stamps it will al balance out.

Get rid of CEO's , stock options, golden parachutes, board members and cut off donations to political campaigns = HELL YES we can afford $35 per hour. The more workers make the more they spend.

razoo » 18 Jul 2023, 12:06 am » wrote: ↑

18 Jul 2023, 12:06 am

Pay people enough money so we don't need food stamps and health care stamps it will al balance out.

Get rid of CEO's , stock options, golden parachutes, board members and cut off donations to political campaigns = HELL YES we can afford $35 per hour. The more workers make the more they spend.

https://www.csmonitor.com/Commentary/Op ... -coop.html

razoo » 18 Jul 2023, 12:20 am » wrote: ↑

18 Jul 2023, 12:20 am

https://www.csmonitor.com/Commentary/Op ... -coop.html

Since WW2 this nation has only had the 1997-2001 period where the budget was balanced.  Use those tax rates.

And since the average wage is $28 an hour the minimum wage ought not be higher than $14. Then index it to about 50% of the average wage.


For all our faults, America today is the wealthiest nation ever to exist under the sun.

And it’s because of capitalism, with all it’s faults.




 

companies depreciate non existing equipment. easy. print fake invoices. all kinds of ways to cheat on income taxes by companies.  irs can not prosecute, or all leaders would be in  prison, and usa would come to a screeching halt.  best to go to a sales tax. or simple 20% income tax on gross company sales. let competition dictate company purchases of equipment.

Bruce » 18 Jul 2023, 12:34 am » wrote: ↑

18 Jul 2023, 12:34 am

Since WW2 this nation has only had the 1997-2001 period where the budget was balanced.  Use those tax rates.

And since the average wage is $28 an hour the minimum wage ought not be higher than $14. Then index it to about 50% of the average wage.

For all our faults, America today is the wealthiest nation ever to exist under the sun.

And it’s because of capitalism, with all it’s faults.

''WEALTHIEST NATION TO EVER EXIST" BS!!! roman empire....british empire...on and on they come and go......18% rise in usa homeless, over their head in national debt, 200 years ago free land for the taking & now the people can not pay the rent. .... you know the truth.

Bruce » 18 Jul 2023, 12:34 am » wrote: ↑

18 Jul 2023, 12:34 am

razoo » 18 Jul 2023, 12:20 am » wrote: ↑

18 Jul 2023, 12:20 am

https://www.csmonitor.com/Commentary/Op ... -coop.html

Since WW2 this nation has only had the 1997-2001 period where the budget was balanced. Use those tax rates.

And since the average wage is $28 an hour the minimum wage ought not be higher than $14. Then index it to about 50% of the average wage.


For all our faults, America today is the wealthiest nation ever to exist under the sun.

And it’s because of capitalism, with all it’s faults.

 

 

razoo » 18 Jul 2023, 12:06 am » wrote: ↑

18 Jul 2023, 12:06 am

Pay people enough money so we don't need food stamps and health care stamps it will al balance out.

Get rid of CEO's , stock options, golden parachutes, board members and cut off donations to political campaigns = HELL YES we can afford $35 per hour. The more workers make the more they spend.

 There are plenty of jobs that pay $35/hour.

razoo » 17 Jul 2023, 8:18 am » wrote: ↑

17 Jul 2023, 8:18 am

As politicians flood corporate america with corporate welfare aka preferential tax codes galore how come America is getting nothing back in return? One of the ideas behind big business to small business was to keep America employed. This no longer seems to be the case. Of course employers would need to train new employees and why the hell not...... this is old school tried and successful.

USA business cannot survive without employees and consumers after all these two ingredients have made some USA business people stinking rich yet it is these two ingredients that seem to be getting screwed in the name of efficiency or other BS. AI = BS.   Hell business gets taxpayer bailouts and bankruptcy protection in the name of mismanagement. Students get screwed over.

If the business world is not going to train employees and stop price go!uging consumers I say in the name of  the USA economy pull all corporate welfare immediately.

Screw the Leveraged  Buyout Scams, Free Trade Zones and Private Equity Scams = tax them at 95%!!!

The money is up in smoke, not going to get it back.

 The individual citizen has constitutional gold-silver money that is not a debt based mandatory inflation fiat currency, the corporation has constitutional gold-silver money, any contracts with a corporation group must be constitutionally legal and individually negotiated by the citizen.

  Complicated political theory plans that take money from the individual citizen taxpayer and result in feudal monarchy styled assault, battery, loss of work, loss of freedom of religion, loss of self employment, loss of self sufficiency, starvation and murder-genocide of the taxpayer citizen are not legal according to the USA constitution.



 

walkingstick » 18 Jul 2023, 2:16 am » wrote: ↑

18 Jul 2023, 2:16 am

''WEALTHIEST NATION TO EVER EXIST" BS!!! roman empire....british empire...on and on they come and go......18% rise in usa homeless, over their head in national debt, 200 years ago free land for the taking & now the people can not pay the rent. .... you know the truth.

Rome and the Colonial British Empire were wealthy but not even approaching the wealth of modern America.

Not counting Yellowstone Park or the Grand Tetons, or 11 super carriers, or half the above ground gold ever mined in our reserves, the gross private assets of the USA are at least 500 trillion dollars, likely double that.

And every year we add 26 trillion gross domestic product.  It stacks up over 240 years.

razoo » 17 Jul 2023, 8:18 am » wrote: ↑

17 Jul 2023, 8:18 am

As politicians flood corporate america with corporate welfare aka preferential tax codes galore how come America is getting nothing back in return? One of the ideas behind big business to small business was to keep America employed. This no longer seems to be the case. Of course employers would need to train new employees and why the hell not...... this is old school tried and successful.

USA business cannot survive without employees and consumers after all these two ingredients have made some USA business people stinking rich yet it is these two ingredients that seem to be getting screwed in the name of efficiency or other BS. AI = BS.   Hell business gets taxpayer bailouts and bankruptcy protection in the name of mismanagement. Students get screwed over.

If the business world is not going to train employees and stop price go!uging consumers I say in the name of  the USA economy pull all corporate welfare immediately.

Screw the Leveraged  Buyout Scams, Free Trade Zones and Private Equity Scams = tax them at 95%!!!

Lower all taxes, corporate taxes included.  All productive Americans are invested in corporate America.  Welfare Bums be damned!!!
 

Skans » 18 Jul 2023, 8:00 am » wrote: ↑

18 Jul 2023, 8:00 am

Lower all taxes, corporate taxes included.  All productive Americans are invested in corporate America.  Welfare Bums be damned!!!

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As politicians flood corporate america with corporate welfare aka preferential tax codes galore how come America is getting nothing back in return? One of the ideas behind big business to small business was to keep America employed. This no longer seems to be the case. Of course employers would need to train new employees and why the hell not...... this is old school tried and successful.

USA business cannot survive without employees and consumers after all these two ingredients have made some USA business people stinking rich yet it is these two ingredients that seem to be getting screwed in the name of efficiency or other BS. AI = BS. Hell business gets taxpayer bailouts and bankruptcy protection in the name of mismanagement. Students get screwed over.

If the business world is not going to train employees and stop price go!uging consumers I say in the name of the USA economy pull all corporate welfare immediately.

Screw the Leveraged Buyout Scams, Free Trade Zones and Private Equity Scams = tax them at 95%!!!