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I am curious as to what the MAGA crowd thinks about the growing list of indictments against their standard bearer.  

Alvin Bragg in New York has a 34-count felony indictment.    Jack Smith already has a 38-count indictment for Mar-a-Lago document mishandling.  He is preparing to come down with a second batch of indictments focusing on the January 6th attempted insurrection.  He is also contemplating yet another round of indictments in New Jersey for Bedminster document mishandling. Fani Willis in Georgia is poised to jump in as well.  The clown literally could be facing hundreds of felonies within the next few months.

Do you folks think that he can survive this pile-on?  I realize that, for the MAGA faithful, the clown could, indeed, shoot someone in the middle of Fifth Avenue and you'd never even pause to spit his scrotum out of your collective mouths, but do you really think that the middle of the bell curve - the moderate conservatives not soaked with koolaid, and the independents - will be able to look past his immoral, craven criminality and vote for your guy in 2024?  Your loyalty may secure him the nomination, but it may very well doom him... and his leaden coattails may drag the rest of the GOP ticket down as well.

Discuss!    

Does it look like it's sinking him?

I have never voted for Trump in a primary, and don't intend to start. I would never donate money to him (I have only given money to one campaign, at any level, in my life). I am hoping he doesn't get the nomination...I think that will depend on how quickly the "no hope" candidates drop out. However, his "base"...those that have supported him since he came down that escalator...will not turn their back easily. In fact, the more he is attacked, the more they support him.

maineman » 18 Jul 2023, 9:45 am » wrote: ↑

18 Jul 2023, 9:45 am

I am curious as to what the MAGA crowd thinks about the growing list of indictments against their standard bearer.  

Alvin Bragg in New York has a 34-count felony indictment.    Jack Smith already has a 38-count indictment for Mar-a-Lago document mishandling.  He is preparing to come down with a second batch of indictments focusing on the January 6th attempted insurrection.  He is also contemplating yet another round of indictments in New Jersey for Bedminster document mishandling. Fani Willis in Georgia is poised to jump in as well.  The clown literally could be facing hundreds of felonies within the next few months.

Do you folks think that he can survive this pile-on?  I realize that, for the MAGA faithful, the clown could, indeed, shoot someone in the middle of Fifth Avenue and you'd never even pause to spit his scrotum out of your collective mouths, but do you really think that the middle of the bell curve - the moderate conservatives not soaked with koolaid, and the independents - will be able to look past his immoral, craven criminality and vote for your guy in 2024?  Your loyalty may secure him the nomination, but it may very well doom him... and his leaden coattails may drag the rest of the GOP ticket down as well.

Discuss!  
 

Besides...you (and other blind liberals) better start praying hard Manchin doesn't make a 3rd party run.  If he does, get ready to here "President Trump" again.
 

ConsRule » 18 Jul 2023, 9:53 am » wrote: ↑

18 Jul 2023, 9:53 am

Besides...you (and other blind liberals) better start praying hard Manchin doesn't make a 3rd party run.  If he does, get ready to here "President Trump" again.

I would say that the only Democrats Manchin appeals to are inbred ones from West Virginia and DINOS.  Other than that, he and the clown are running in the same lane.

ConsRule » 18 Jul 2023, 9:51 am » wrote: ↑

18 Jul 2023, 9:51 am

Does it look like it's sinking him?

I have never voted for Trump in a primary, and don't intend to start. I would never donate money to him (I have only given money to one campaign, at any level, in my life). I am hoping he doesn't get the nomination...I think that will depend on how quickly the "no hope" candidates drop out. However, his "base"...those that have supported him since he came down that escalator...will not turn their back easily. In fact, the more he is attacked, the more they support him.

It doesn't look like it impacts him in the GOP primary field.  That wasn't my question.  

Did you even bother to READ the OP?

I spot him the MAGA base.  That will not win him more than a handful of deep red states and certainly not the election.

TDS is still running strong with dims. Pity the sufferer. TDS is a lifelong affliction. Dims believed the biggest hoax in American history. If I was a dim i would be interested in congressional probes into "The big guy" and an impending impeachment.

johndnorth » 18 Jul 2023, 10:02 am » wrote: ↑

18 Jul 2023, 10:02 am

TDS is still running strong with dims. Pity the sufferer. TDS is a lifelong affliction. Dims believed the biggest hoax in American history. If I was a dim i would be interested in congressional probes into "The big guy" and an impending impeachment.

you failed to answer the question.  why am I not surprised?

maineman » 18 Jul 2023, 9:57 am » wrote: ↑

18 Jul 2023, 9:57 am

I would say that the only Democrats Manchin appeals to are inbred ones from West Virginia and DINOS.  Other than that, he and the clown are running in the same lane.

Most "experts" on CNNLOL and MSNBS disagree with you.  Remember, less that half of demonrats think Biden should seek a second term. 

I doubt very few republicans trust Manchin enough to vote for him...they will hold their nose and vote for Trump, especially if there is a candidate pulling votes away from Biden.  If about half of demonrats vote Manchin, Trump would probably win.  Manchin can do the same thing to Biden that Perot did to GHW Bush.

But you're one of the many liberals who are either too blind to see, or who refuse to acknowledge, the obvious decline in Biden.  And, short of Biden's death or resignation, there is no way in hell Kamalahaha becomes President.
 

maineman » 18 Jul 2023, 10:00 am » wrote: ↑

18 Jul 2023, 10:00 am

It doesn't look like it impacts him in the GOP primary field.  That wasn't my question.  

Did you even bother to READ the OP?

I spot him the MAGA base.  That will not win him more than a handful of deep red states and certainly not the election.

I assumed you were intelligent enough to know if Trump gets the nomination, he would get about the same number of votes he received in 2020.  In hindsight, assuming you were even a little intelligent was a fatal flaw on my part.
 

ConsRule » 18 Jul 2023, 10:11 am » wrote: ↑

18 Jul 2023, 10:11 am

Most "experts" on CNNLOL and MSNBS disagree with you.  Remember, less that half of demonrats think Biden should seek a second term. 

I doubt very few republicans trust Manchin enough to vote for him...they will hold their nose and vote for Trump, especially if there is a candidate pulling votes away from Biden.  If about half of demonrats vote Manchin, Trump would probably win.  Manchin can do the same thing to Biden that Perot did to GHW Bush.

But you're one of the many liberals who are either too blind to see, or who refuse to acknowledge, the obvious decline in Biden.  And, short of Biden's death or resignation, there is no way in hell Kamalahaha becomes President.

cool opinion.  

do you think the clown would try to campaign in his jumpsuit?

maineman » 18 Jul 2023, 9:45 am » wrote: ↑

18 Jul 2023, 9:45 am

I am curious as to what the MAGA crowd thinks about the growing list of indictments against their standard bearer.  

Alvin Bragg in New York has a 34-count felony indictment.    Jack Smith already has a 38-count indictment for Mar-a-Lago document mishandling.  He is preparing to come down with a second batch of indictments focusing on the January 6th attempted insurrection.  He is also contemplating yet another round of indictments in New Jersey for Bedminster document mishandling. Fani Willis in Georgia is poised to jump in as well.  The clown literally could be facing hundreds of felonies within the next few months.

Do you folks think that he can survive this pile-on?  I realize that, for the MAGA faithful, the clown could, indeed, shoot someone in the middle of Fifth Avenue and you'd never even pause to spit his scrotum out of your collective mouths, but do you really think that the middle of the bell curve - the moderate conservatives not soaked with koolaid, and the independents - will be able to look past his immoral, craven criminality and vote for your guy in 2024?  Your loyalty may secure him the nomination, but it may very well doom him... and his leaden coattails may drag the rest of the GOP ticket down as well.

Discuss!  

Clearly, you and your party are still scared to death to face him in a fairly run election.

That would actually make a far more interesting discussion!
 

maineman » 18 Jul 2023, 10:15 am » wrote: ↑

18 Jul 2023, 10:15 am

cool opinion.  

do you think the clown would try to campaign in his jumpsuit?

What makes you think he even needs to be on the campaign trail?  Besides, he needs to be convicted of something first.

ConsRule » 18 Jul 2023, 10:14 am » wrote: ↑

18 Jul 2023, 10:14 am

I assumed you were intelligent enough to know if Trump gets the nomination, he would get about the same number of votes he received in 2020.  In hindsight, assuming you were even a little intelligent was a fatal flaw on my part.

again... you are saying that all of the independents and moderate republicans who are not soaked in koolaid and who held their noses and voted for the clown in 2020 are going to totally discount a hundred criminal indictments and God-only-knows how many convictions and vote for him AGAIN in 2024????

So... your answer to the OP question is, not at all.  Criminal indictments will NOT hurt the clown with the electorate.

Good for you.
 

Zeets2 » 18 Jul 2023, 10:16 am » wrote: ↑

18 Jul 2023, 10:16 am

Clearly, you and your party are still scared to death to face him in a fairly run election.

That would actually make a far more interesting discussion!

we kicked his *** in the last fairly-run election. We will do it again.

And if you don't want to discuss the topic of MY thread, start your own, asshole.

 

maineman » 18 Jul 2023, 10:15 am » wrote: ↑

18 Jul 2023, 10:15 am

cool opinion.  

do you think the clown would try to campaign in his jumpsuit?

If Trump is removed from running through legal actions the blowback will be unprecedented. He won't run from jail and will be pardoned regardless of who wins in 2024. 
 

ConsRule » 18 Jul 2023, 10:17 am » wrote: ↑

18 Jul 2023, 10:17 am

What makes you think he even needs to be on the campaign trail?  Besides, he needs to be convicted of something first.

Have you read Smith's 38-count indictment?

Neo » 18 Jul 2023, 10:21 am » wrote: ↑

18 Jul 2023, 10:21 am

If Trump is removed from running through legal actions the blowback will be unprecedented. He won't run from jail and will be pardoned regardless of who wins in 2024.

cool opinion.

maineman » 18 Jul 2023, 10:20 am » wrote: ↑

18 Jul 2023, 10:20 am

again... you are saying that all of the independents and moderate republicans who are not soaked in koolaid and who held their noses and voted for the clown in 2020 are going to totally discount a hundred criminal indictments and God-only-knows how many convictions and vote for him AGAIN in 2024????

So... your answer to the OP question is, not at all.  Criminal indictments will NOT hurt the clown with the electorate.

Good for you.

Do you see ANY indication of the indictments hurting him?  Why is it every liberal on the planet cannot grasp the idea that their never ending pursuit of Trump is turning into nothing more than white noise with the majority of the people in this country.

The only thing that will impact the campaign is a conviction...and I strongly doubt any trial will get to that point before election day.  It's too easy to delay trials.
 

maineman » 18 Jul 2023, 10:23 am » wrote: ↑

18 Jul 2023, 10:23 am

Have you read Smith's 38-count indictment?

FYI...and indictment is not a conviction.  Besides, we are a long way from that trial actually starting.
 

ConsRule » 18 Jul 2023, 10:26 am » wrote: ↑

18 Jul 2023, 10:26 am

Do you see ANY indication of the indictments hurting him?  Why is it every liberal on the planet cannot grasp the idea that their never ending pursuit of Trump is turning into nothing more than white noise with the majority of the people in this country.

The only thing that will impact the campaign is a conviction...and I strongly doubt any trial will get to that point before election day.  It's too easy to delay trials.

not with his base.  that was never in question.

https://www.nbcnews.com/meet-the-press/ ... -rcna87478

 I live in a new condo development for over 55 folks.  We are all just moving in and getting to know one another.  Without me even asking, three of my immediate neighbors have all told me in he past month that they are republicans who voted for Trump in 2020 and that they won't do so again.  Anecdotal, I realize, but it was unexpected.