Will the cumulative weight of indictments sink Trump?

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By maineman
18 Jul 2023 9:45 am in No Holds Barred Political Forum
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19 Jul 2023 12:37 pm
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maineman » 19 Jul 2023, 11:05 am » wrote: 1.  The Steele document was not created for the purpose of obtaining a FISA warrant.  It was opposition research and much of it is either accurate or not proven to be inaccurate.
 
https://www.cnn.com/2022/10/11/politics ... index.html


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19 Jul 2023 12:39 pm
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do you really think the FBI would pay him a million dollars for just proving that SOME of the dossier was true?
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19 Jul 2023 12:44 pm
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maineman » 19 Jul 2023, 12:39 pm » wrote: do you really think the FBI would pay him a million dollars for just proving that SOME of the dossier was true?
Just for the "explosive allegations"... like you said, who cares about mundane details. Steele never cashed the check.
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Zeets2 » 19 Jul 2023, 12:13 pm » wrote: And that statement alone proves how ignorant you truly are, while remaining such a gullible pawn of the liberal media!

Are those enough to get through your thick liberal head that you're nothing but a gullible pawn carrying the water for the hopelessly incompetent buffoon you were stupid enough to vote for?  Because there are PLENTY more!
MBS liked Trump better than Biden?

wow

I'd put that on MY resume, that's for sure! :rofl:  

Western Journal??

New York POST???

UK Expresss????

how many Pulitzers have those guys won recently????
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19 Jul 2023 12:47 pm
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neueregel » 19 Jul 2023, 12:44 pm » wrote: Just for the "explosive allegations"... like you said, who cares about mundane details. Steele never cashed the check.
the Dossier had a lot of stuff that wasn't EXPLOSIVE.  Parts of the dossier have been proven to be true, and parts have NOT been proven to be untrue.
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19 Jul 2023 12:51 pm
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maineman » 18 Jul 2023, 9:45 am » wrote: I am curious as to what the MAGA crowd thinks about the growing list of indictments against their standard bearer.  

Alvin Bragg in New York has a 34-count felony indictment.    Jack Smith already has a 38-count indictment for Mar-a-Lago document mishandling.  He is preparing to come down with a second batch of indictments focusing on the January 6th attempted insurrection.  He is also contemplating yet another round of indictments in New Jersey for Bedminster document mishandling. Fani Willis in Georgia is poised to jump in as well.  The clown literally could be facing hundreds of felonies within the next few months.

Do you folks think that he can survive this pile-on?  I realize that, for the MAGA faithful, the clown could, indeed, shoot someone in the middle of Fifth Avenue and you'd never even pause to spit his scrotum out of your collective mouths, but do you really think that the middle of the bell curve - the moderate conservatives not soaked with koolaid, and the independents - will be able to look past his immoral, craven criminality and vote for your guy in 2024?  Your loyalty may secure him the nomination, but it may very well doom him... and his leaden coattails may drag the rest of the GOP ticket down as well.

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            Democrats and their friends in the Courts can indict Trump as many times as they like.... It's irrelevant, because it doesn't disqualify Trump from running, and it hasn't deterred any support from him, given most see it's just fish food for Leftist Suckers
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19 Jul 2023 12:56 pm
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maineman » 19 Jul 2023, 12:47 pm » wrote: the Dossier had a lot of stuff that wasn't EXPLOSIVE.  Parts of the dossier have been proven to be true, and parts have NOT been proven to be untrue.
ie: parts of the dossier that were mundane and not worth a dime of FBI money is true. Fine. Nobody cares about that. 

The parts that were meant to hurt Trump….the explosive part…was made up. 
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19 Jul 2023 1:01 pm
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For our edification @Zeets2  

https://www.pewresearch.org/global/2021 ... -to-biden/

"The election of Joe Biden as president has led to a dramatic shift in America’s international image. Throughout Donald Trump’s presidency, publics around the world held the United States in low regard, with most opposed to his foreign policies. This was especially true among key American allies and partners. Now, a new Pew Research Center survey of 16 publics finds a significant uptick in ratings for the U.S., with strong support for Biden and several of his major policy initiatives."

https://www.pewresearch.org/global/2023 ... -positive/

"The current study includes eight middle-income nations that Pew Research Center has not surveyed since 2019, before the outbreak of COVID-19, due to the challenges of conducting face-to-face interviews during the pandemic. In all eight countries, there has been a significant increase in U.S. favorability since 2019. This is similar to the pattern found in Pew Research Center surveys over the past several years, which documented a decline in America’s global image during Donald Trump’s presidency and a rebound in ratings for the U.S. following the election of Joe Biden."

https://www.forbes.com/sites/jemimamcev ... c71dbd2"In 12 countries surveyed both this year and last, Pew found 75% of respondents expressed confidence in Biden, compared with 17% for Trump in 2020. Some 62% of respondents said they now have a favorable view of the U.S., a number that was at 34% by the end of Trump’s tenure. The favorable ratings stem from a more positive perception of Biden’s leadership abilities and his policies, the polling shows." 
https://pro.morningconsult.com/instant- ... ump-abroad

"Former President Donald Trump is widely disliked abroad, both in comparison to President Joe Biden and the Republican Party, illustrating a potential foreign relations pitfall should he win back the White House in 2024, according to Morning Consult survey data from 17 countries."

https://www.businessinsider.com/global- ... ies-2021-6

"Global confidence in the US President jumped 58 points from Trumpto Biden in a dozen major countries."

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neueregel » 19 Jul 2023, 12:56 pm » wrote: ie: parts of the dossier that were mundane and not worth a dime of FBI money is true. Fine. Nobody cares about that. 

The parts that were meant to hurt Trump….the explosive part…was made up.
or just not verifiable.
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Kobia2 » 19 Jul 2023, 12:51 pm » wrote:             Democrats and their friends in the Courts can indict Trump as many times as they like.... It's irrelevant, because it doesn't disqualify Trump from running, and it hasn't deterred any support from him, given most see it's just fish food for Leftist Suckers
As I said... he'll always have the MAGA morons on his side.

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/po ... ald-trump/
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19 Jul 2023 1:06 pm
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maineman » 19 Jul 2023, 1:02 pm » wrote: or just not verifiable.
Certainly not by Steele or Danchenko...
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neueregel » 19 Jul 2023, 1:06 pm » wrote: Certainly not by Steele or Danchenko...
wasn't Danchenko acquitted?
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19 Jul 2023 1:12 pm
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maineman » 19 Jul 2023, 1:06 pm » wrote: wasn't Danchenko acquitted?
He wasn't charged with providing Steele with false stories. I'm sure he's glad for that.
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19 Jul 2023 1:24 pm
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maineman » 19 Jul 2023, 1:05 pm » wrote: As I said... he'll always have the MAGA morons on his side.

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/po ... ald-trump/
            According to you fools, 74 Million people in this country are MAGA Extremists.... As for the Democrat Voter Base--- you can keep the folks that make up the Rainbow flock, the crime & drug infested inner city ****, and the people who have made the safety net a viable career path...  
 
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Bruce » 18 Jul 2023, 2:29 pm » wrote: Trump is not going to be worried about any elections if he’s appealing a prison sentence.

And in theory he might be able to pardon himself for federal crimes, if he wins, there is one state crime and soon another one in Georgia he has no power of pardon.  Beside he might lose again,

Trump’s followers took hydroxy, ivermectin, didn’t take shots, even drank Lysol for him.

Trump won’t risk prison for them.

He can have all the porn stars he can afford, and that’s a lot.  He owns lots of huge hotels.  There’s a huge Boeing he owns.  He has lots of fans.

It’s either freedom, or the prospect of shackles and chains.

He will chose freedom, I’ll bet.  Take a deal and let somebody else run as a Republican.

 If he’s convicted in just one place, the others will not deal.
 
https://youtu.be/7IZH5iEQF5s
Conclusions: Moderate-certainty evidence finds that large reductions in COVID-19 deaths are possible using ivermectin. Using ivermectin early in the clinical course may reduce numbers progressing to severe disease. The apparent safety and low cost suggest that ivermectin is likely to have a significant impact on the SARS-CoV-2 pandemic globally.
 Copyright © 2021 The Author(s). Published by Wolters Kluwer Health, Inc.

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/34145166/

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righteous » 19 Jul 2023, 10:46 am » wrote: I don’t. Many others do. CRT *** Garland won’t see any evidence. It’s all about protecting the crime thug pedophile. 
You're an ignorant Putz, Janitor

Maineman thinks gnawing at, sniffing, and massaging little girls is a hoax. Dumbfukkery of a simple mind.
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DeplorablePatriot » 19 Jul 2023, 1:27 pm » wrote: Maineman thinks gnawing at, sniffing, and massaging little girls is a hoax. Dumbfukkery of a simple mind.
Am I the only one watching the hearings?
lol 
let me guess-
YES! 3x3x3?  maybe I should seek advice from gen z? we'll have to start with Them?- :LOL:  
 
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neueregel » 19 Jul 2023, 1:12 pm » wrote: He wasn't charged with providing Steele with false stories. I'm sure he's glad for that.
You'd think that if he was such a dastardly soul, Durham could have found SOME crime he was guilty of.
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maineman » 19 Jul 2023, 2:19 pm » wrote: You'd think that if he was such a dastardly soul, Durham could have found SOME crime he was guilty of.
By the way, the pee tapes story COULD have happened.

Trump’s own bodyguard testified they got offered prostitutes and refused.

Then he went to bed in another room, but he thinks Donald never, ever would accept the favors of whores.

Wonder if Melania agrees?


 
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19 Jul 2023 2:28 pm
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sootedupCyndi » 19 Jul 2023, 1:42 pm » wrote: Am I the only one watching the hearings?
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YES! 3x3x3?  maybe I should seek advice from gen z? we'll have to start with Them?- Image
I'm watching on and off. The Dems don't have much defense. Then again, this isn't about Hunter but the larger Biden family's corruption of taking money for influence.
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