Will the cumulative weight of indictments sink Trump?

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By maineman
18 Jul 2023 9:45 am in No Holds Barred Political Forum
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22 Jul 2023 10:24 pm
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Image JuCo 5 percenter...72 “Show me the man and I’ll find you the crime” ~ LAVRENTIY BERIA "Try to get past your passionate ignorance and learn to accept what actually happened." ~ brown's unheeded words of wisdom :rofl: If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with? "Libruls are often fascists on vacation..."
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22 Jul 2023 10:28 pm
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DeplorablePatriot » 22 Jul 2023, 9:18 pm » wrote: The cumulative weight of Maineman's insight is far less than an unladen African swallow's beak.
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Image JuCo 5 percenter...72 “Show me the man and I’ll find you the crime” ~ LAVRENTIY BERIA "Try to get past your passionate ignorance and learn to accept what actually happened." ~ brown's unheeded words of wisdom :rofl: If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with? "Libruls are often fascists on vacation..."
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jerra b
22 Jul 2023 10:41 pm
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maineman » 22 Jul 2023, 9:14 pm » wrote: You quoted me when I was responding to someone else about Trump's lack of effectiveness in southern US border illegal immigration.  I had quoted a CATO Institute report in my post.  My guess is that you saw CATO and read NATO and quickly knee-jerk teed off on me about  Biden and Ukraine.  It was synonymous with me writing a post about the Boston Red Sox and you attacking me for the failure of AMTRAK to stay on schedule and on budget.  It was way beyond apples and oranges and was closer to apples and haikus. or apples and microwaves.

I think that you should be a big boy and admit you **** up, apologize to me for **** up, and then take care not to **** up in a similar fashion going forward.  But I'd bet money you won't.  You don't have the maturity or the character.
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So... you agree with Putin?

Good to know.

And my pup and I had a lovely walk...but I certainly didn't walk AWAY from anything.  Now... in about ten minutes, we are driving to Freeport, Maine to have lunch here:

https://goodfirebrewing.com/freeport/
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your stupid answer to my question.

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you walk away from anything that proves that  the ukraine war was instigated by biden and zelenski and is prolonged by  biden and zelenski. and I am sure you will avoid responding to this post like the plague.
 
 
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23 Jul 2023 7:07 am
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jerrab » 22 Jul 2023, 10:41 pm » wrote: -------------------------------------------------------------
So... you agree with Putin?

Good to know.

And my pup and I had a lovely walk...but I certainly didn't walk AWAY from anything.  Now... in about ten minutes, we are driving to Freeport, Maine to have lunch here:

https://goodfirebrewing.com/freeport/
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your stupid answer to my question.

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you walk away from anything that proves that  the ukraine war was instigated by biden and zelenski and is prolonged by  biden and zelenski. and I am sure you will avoid responding to this post like the plague.
I don't agree with Putin.  You answered a post from me that was about illegal immigration on our southern border with a response about Putin and Ukraine and now you don't have the decency to just admit you **** up. 
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23 Jul 2023 8:21 am
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maineman » 23 Jul 2023, 7:07 am » wrote: I don't agree with Putin.  You answered a post from me that was about illegal immigration on our southern border with a response about Putin and Ukraine and now you don't have the decency to just admit you **** up.

anything to avoid how biden and zelinski are prolonging the war.
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23 Jul 2023 8:24 am
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jerrab » 23 Jul 2023, 8:21 am » wrote: anything to avoid how biden and zelinski are prolonging the war.
You spammed and hijacked the thread with your Ukraine rant.   You read CATO and thought NATO and the rest is the well-documented history of your bull-headed stupidity and lack of character.
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23 Jul 2023 9:25 am
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maineman » 23 Jul 2023, 8:24 am » wrote: You spammed and hijacked the thread with your Ukraine rant.   You read CATO and thought NATO and the rest is the well-documented history of your bull-headed stupidity and lack of character.
Mainegland writes precipitously about others lack character. "Protest too much" comes to mind. 
 
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23 Jul 2023 9:46 am
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Dems can not prosecute for **** .... If I am ever prosecuted ... I want a dem as a prosecutor lol ...

Every made up dem charge has resulted in Trump being free ... lol

I think the cumulative weight of fake indictments will end the dem party ... lol
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23 Jul 2023 9:50 am
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maineman » 22 Jul 2023, 3:42 pm » wrote: 3 tenths of a percent?

And that means that for everything else, you admit I shoved your lies about black unemployment and wall street records up your ***?
Yeah, that's exactly how far off you were by lying about, in your failed attempt to prove the pure **** that Biden lowered the unemployment rate more than Trump did.

And "everything else", you were incapable of defending your lies and ****!
Are you trying to claim that Trump DIDN'T set a record low unemployment for blacks, women, youth, Hispanics and Asians?  YES OR NO?
Are you also trying to claim that Trump DIDN'T set a record for high levels in the stock market?  YES OR NO?
Are you also trying to claim that the border is more secure now under Biden than it was under Trump?  YES OR NO?
Are you also trying to claim that the inflation rate under Biden is far worse than it was under Trump?  YES OR NO?
Are you also trying to claim that the level of crime under Biden is better than it was under Trump?  YES OR NO?
Are you also trying to claim that the homeless problem isn't far worse under Biden than it was under Trump?  YES OR NO?
Are you also trying to claim that the illegal fentanyl problem isn't far worse under Biden than it was under Trump, YES OR NO?
Are you also trying to claim that Biden is NOT giving free healthcare to illegals while Americans are paying rising premium costs? YES OR NO?
Are you also trying to claim that the White House has NOT found both cocaine and pot stored in various areas in living quarters?  YES OR NO?
Are you also trying to claim that Democrats leaders are NOT behind creating "no bail" laws in their cities? YES OR NO?
Are you also trying to claim that the Biden administration is NOT behind permitting biological males to use the lockers, restrooms and showers of women?  YES OR NO?
Are you also trying to claim that Biden did NOT stop oil and gas drilling and fracking on federal lands and offshore, then kill the construction of several major pipelines?  YES OR NO?

So let's see you either admit to those facts or continue the lies and **** you've had pounded into your otherwise empty head by CNN, MSNBC, and the NY Times!

 
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23 Jul 2023 12:31 pm
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maineman » 23 Jul 2023, 8:24 am » wrote: You spammed and hijacked the thread with your Ukraine rant.   You read CATO and thought NATO and the rest is the well-documented history of your bull-headed stupidity and lack of character.

I did not misread anything. you are refusing to answer the question.

you are going to walk the dog. 

you are going out to to eat.

your avoidance is laughable.

 
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23 Jul 2023 12:44 pm
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Zeets2 » 23 Jul 2023, 9:50 am » wrote: Yeah, that's exactly how far off you were by lying about, in your failed attempt to prove the pure **** that Biden lowered the unemployment rate more than Trump did.

1. And "everything else", you were incapable of defending your lies and ****!
2. Are you trying to claim that Trump DIDN'T set a record low unemployment for blacks, women, youth, Hispanics and Asians?  YES OR NO?
3. Are you also trying to claim that Trump DIDN'T set a record for high levels in the stock market?  YES OR NO?
4. Are you also trying to claim that the border is more secure now under Biden than it was under Trump?  YES OR NO?
5. Are you also trying to claim that the inflation rate under Biden is far worse than it was under Trump?  YES OR NO?
6. Are you also trying to claim that the level of crime under Biden is better than it was under Trump?  YES OR NO?
7. Are you also trying to claim that the homeless problem isn't far worse under Biden than it was under Trump?  YES OR NO?
8. Are you also trying to claim that the illegal fentanyl problem isn't far worse under Biden than it was under Trump, YES OR NO?
9. Are you also trying to claim that Biden is NOT giving free healthcare to illegals while Americans are paying rising premium costs? YES OR NO?
10. Are you also trying to claim that the White House has NOT found both cocaine and pot stored in various areas in living quarters?  YES OR NO?
11. Are you also trying to claim that Democrats leaders are NOT behind creating "no bail" laws in their cities? YES OR NO?
12. Are you also trying to claim that the Biden administration is NOT behind permitting biological males to use the lockers, restrooms and showers of women?  YES OR NO?
13. Are you also trying to claim that Biden did NOT stop oil and gas drilling and fracking on federal lands and offshore, then kill the construction of several major pipelines?  YES OR NO?


 
answers to follow.

 
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23 Jul 2023 12:49 pm
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1. I don't lie
2. No.  Hispanic unemployment rate was just as low in the spring of this year as it was at any point in Trump's administration. (4.0%) https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/LNS14000009
Women's unemployment lower under Biden than Trump :  https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/LNS14000002
Asian unemployment essentially equal under both.  https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/LNU04032183
Biden set a new black unemployment record:   https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/LNS14000006
Biden set a new youth unemployment record:  https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/SLUEM1524ZSUSA
3.  No... I am saying that the DJIA setting a new record during a presidency is not a big **** deal.  100 years ago, the DJIA was about 1500.  Today it is over 35000.  It has set new records in a whole bunch of presidential terms since then.  Biden beat Trump's record.  Trump beat Obama's record.  Obama beat Bush's record.  Bush beat Clinton's record.  Do you sense a pattern?
4.  NO.  I merely pointed out that it has been porous for a long time and illegal immigration did NOT slow to a trickle - let alone STOP - during the Trump administration.  https://www.cato.org/blog/president-tru ... mmigration
5. Biden inherited an administration in the midst of a worldwide pandemic and a concomitant global recession...and then Russia invaded Ukraine and the world food supply chain was totally disrupted.   Trump was no wizard about inflation.  It was TWICE as high under his watch as it was under HIS predecessor, and I bet you don't give Obama credit for that, or attack Trump for his mediocre inflation scores when compared with Obama's do you?  The world economy is still recovering from COVID and still dealing with Ukraine.  Inflation is in decline and my guess is you won't give Biden credit for that either.  https://www.usinflationcalculator.com/i ... ion-rates/
6.  In some categories, crime is down under Biden, in some it's higher.  Murder rates are way down.  https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archi ... cs/674290/#
7. It certainly is not FAR worse.  It was the worst in recent history under GW Bush, got to its lowest point under Obama, rose slightly under Trump and has risen slightly more under Biden, but still to nowhere NEAR Bush levels.  https://www.statista.com/statistics/555 ... in-the-us/
8.  It's a growing problem and has been for decades.  It grew rapidly during the four years of Trump (jumping 30% in just the last year of his presidency)  and it continues to grow under Biden.  https://nida.nih.gov/research-topics/tr ... eath-rates 
9.  Undocumented immigrants are ineligible for federal health coverage or access to the Federal Health Insurance Marketplace under the Affordable Care Act. However, they are able to purchase private health coverage or — in some cases — access insurance through their employers. Undocumented immigrants can also access limited primary care and prescription drugs through 1,400 or so Federally Qualified Health Centers (FQHCs) around the country.   https://immigrationforum.org/article/fa ... 0employers.
10. Not in "living quarters", but in the west wing, which is where the presidential staff offices are. 
11.  I have no problem with no bail for misdemeanor offenses or even some minor, non-violent felonies. 
12. NO.  and I disagree with their stance on transgender athletes.
13.  We still export more fossil fuel under Biden than we did under Trump https://www.eia.gov/energyexplained/oil ... xports.php
.https://www.eia.gov/dnav/ng/hist/n9130us2a.htm

 
 
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jerrab » 23 Jul 2023, 12:31 pm » wrote: I did not misread anything. you are refusing to answer the question.

you are going to walk the dog. 

you are going out to to eat.

your avoidance is laughable.
why did you spam a thread that had nothing to do with Ukraine?

start your own.
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23 Jul 2023 12:58 pm
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maineman » 23 Jul 2023, 12:50 pm » wrote: why did you spam a thread that had nothing to do with Ukraine?

start your own.

like the war in ukraine should not be the most important topic.

especially since zelenski could have ended it months ago and signed a peace treaty that he and  biden just laughed at.
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jerrab » 23 Jul 2023, 12:58 pm » wrote: like the war in ukraine should not be the most important topic.

especially since zelenski could have ended it months ago and signed a peace treaty that he and  biden just laughed at.
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23 Jul 2023 3:48 pm
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GFY

seriously.

 
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23 Jul 2023 4:29 pm
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This page should be named "Friends of Maineman".
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ROG62
23 Jul 2023 4:39 pm
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I was laughing and the Monty Python Holy Grail reference...christ, don't be such a nancy...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=liIlW-ovx0Y


 
Image JuCo 5 percenter...72 “Show me the man and I’ll find you the crime” ~ LAVRENTIY BERIA "Try to get past your passionate ignorance and learn to accept what actually happened." ~ brown's unheeded words of wisdom :rofl: If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with? "Libruls are often fascists on vacation..."
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ROG62 » 23 Jul 2023, 4:39 pm » wrote: I was laughing and the Monty Python Holy Grail reference...christ, don't be such a nancy...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=liIlW-ovx0Y
He's a well disguised phycho...... paranoid the Navy will find out he's stealing their pension.
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RebelGator » 23 Jul 2023, 4:50 pm » wrote: He's a well disguised phycho...... paranoid the Navy will find out he's stealing their pension.
a regular...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t13UHPXrdgs
 
Image JuCo 5 percenter...72 “Show me the man and I’ll find you the crime” ~ LAVRENTIY BERIA "Try to get past your passionate ignorance and learn to accept what actually happened." ~ brown's unheeded words of wisdom :rofl: If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with? "Libruls are often fascists on vacation..."
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