Will the cumulative weight of indictments sink Trump?

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By maineman
18 Jul 2023 9:45 am in No Holds Barred Political Forum
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neueregel » 18 Jul 2023, 1:19 pm » wrote: There are three camps of people:

1. Those who watched the Durham testimony and received confirmation about the Russia hoax. This group is going to be highly suspect of litigation on Trump and most likely think it's a political witchhunt...like Russiagate.

2. People who cling to the Russia hoax. This group thinks Trump is a criminal, with or without evidence, and feels any charges are justified if it stops him from being reelected.

3. People who are casual consumers of politics. This group can be swayed one way or the other. They have limited, if any knowledge of FBI corruption, no clear understanding or opinions on the origins of Covid or why Russia is mean to Ukraine.

Group 3 will decide the election.
Trump is not going to be worried about any elections if he’s appealing a prison sentence.

And in theory he might be able to pardon himself for federal crimes, if he wins, there is one state crime and soon another one in Georgia he has no power of pardon.  Beside he might lose again,

Trump’s followers took hydroxy, ivermectin, didn’t take shots, even drank Lysol for him.

Trump won’t risk prison for them.

He can have all the porn stars he can afford, and that’s a lot.  He owns lots of huge hotels.  There’s a huge Boeing he owns.  He has lots of fans.

It’s either freedom, or the prospect of shackles and chains.

He will chose freedom, I’ll bet.  Take a deal and let somebody else run as a Republican.

 If he’s convicted in just one place, the others will not deal.
 
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18 Jul 2023 2:35 pm
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Bruce » 18 Jul 2023, 2:29 pm » wrote: Trump is not going to be worried about any elections if he’s appealing a prison sentence.

And in theory he might be able to pardon himself for federal crimes, if he wins, there is one state crime and soon another one in Georgia he has no power of pardon.  Beside he might lose again,

Trump’s followers took hydroxy, ivermectin, didn’t take shots, even drank Lysol for him.

Trump won’t risk prison for them.

He can have all the porn stars he can afford, and that’s a lot.  He owns lots of huge hotels.  There’s a huge Boeing he owns.  He has lots of fans.

It’s either freedom, or the prospect of shackles and chains.

He will chose freedom, I’ll bet.  Take a deal and let somebody else run as a Republican.

 If he’s convicted in just one place, the others will not deal.
 
https://youtu.be/7IZH5iEQF5s
We are in agreement that all of the litigation is an effort to keep him from running. I would think the left would absolutely love for him to run.
 
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18 Jul 2023 2:36 pm
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maineman » 18 Jul 2023, 2:25 pm » wrote: your math is off.  one-third of the electorate did not even bother to vote in 2020... and Biden got 7+M more votes than Trump.  That means that less than one third of the electorate voted for Trump.  That's a clear minority.
Oh possibly.. but despite the fact your stats are also anachronistic - so what to either point? It's not far enough off that it isn't serious
 
No, I'm not raking through history to 'provide links'. If you can't directly dispute a point, then question your own links.
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18 Jul 2023 2:39 pm
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Zeets2 » 18 Jul 2023, 1:32 pm » wrote: ****!
THIS was the conclusion of the year's long investigation in that NPR piece, a fact you ignorant liberals simply can't accept:

Simple enough for even a liberal dunce to understand!  Except you choose instead to demand something of Barr that was never the intention of the investigation, which was NOT to exonerate anyone, but to PROVE TRUMP DID NOTHING ILLEGAL!

So was THAT the conclusion or not, fool?
the purpose of Mueller's investigation was not to prove that Trump did nothing illegal. The purpose of the investigation was to determine what, if anything, Russia did to interfere with the 2016 election.  Volume One lays out the findings of their investigation into that.  Volume Two lays out their findings as to the Trump campaign's repeated efforts to hamper their investigation.

From the NPR story:

A year later, a federal judge sharply rebuked Barr's handling of Mueller's report, saying Barr had made "misleading public statements" to spin the investigation's findings in favor of Trump and had shown a "lack of candor."  Friday's appeals court decision said the internal Justice Department memo noted that "Mueller had declined to accuse President Trump of obstructing justice but also had declined to exonerate him." The internal memo said "the Report's failure to take a definitive position could be read to imply an accusation against President Trump" if released to the public, the court wrote.
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JustinSane » 18 Jul 2023, 2:36 pm » wrote: Oh possibly.. but despite the fact your stats are also anachronistic - so what to either point? It's not far enough off that it isn't serious
Am I concerned that one-third of the American electorate are stupid MAGA-moron sheeple?  Indeed.  Am I pleased as punch that two-thirds AREN'T?  damn straight.
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maineman » 18 Jul 2023, 2:41 pm » wrote: Am I concerned that one-third of the American electorate are stupid MAGA-moron sheeple?  Indeed.  Am I pleased as punch that two-thirds AREN'T?  damn straight.
Your stats are anachronistic - Thanks to blatant and relentless, one-man-focussed lawfare by the left, Trump's popularity has grown considerably in that timeframe. But it's immaterial either way. The pile-on is not just against Trump
 
No, I'm not raking through history to 'provide links'. If you can't directly dispute a point, then question your own links.
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JustinSane » 18 Jul 2023, 2:50 pm » wrote: Your stats are anachronistic - Thanks to blatant and relentless, one-man-focussed lawfare by the left, Trump's popularity has grown considerably in that timeframe. But it's immaterial either way. The pile-on is not just against Trump
Anachronistic???

Did someone just teach you that word?  

What prior period in history are my statistics about the number of people who voted in the 2020 election FROM if not the present?
 
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Z09 » 18 Jul 2023, 3:59 pm » wrote: Do you wake up in the middle of the night thinking of Trump?

He did, with his little pee-pee grasped tightly between thumb and forefinger.
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neueregel » 18 Jul 2023, 2:35 pm » wrote: We are in agreement that all of the litigation is an effort to keep him from running. I would think the left would absolutely love for him to run.
My worry, is in all our history there’s only been one Trump.  He’s 99% carnival barker con man and 1 % criminal.  If we prosecute the only Trump, will that lead someday to a conventional, sane and normal president being prosecuted?

But January 6 was beyond bad.

If we don’t prosecute Trump, in fifty or a hundred years will another attempt be made to end democracy as we know it?
 
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18 Jul 2023 6:27 pm
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RebelGator » 18 Jul 2023, 4:41 pm » wrote: He did, with his little pee-pee grasped tightly between thumb and forefinger.
It seems like you take a lot of opportunities to take about my genitalia. You should know that I don't swing that way.  I am totally straight and happily married to my wife for over a quarter or a century...maybe you should go hit on @Cannonpointer  ... he is an admitted cock sucker.  Maybe he'd suck yours.  It couldn't hurt to ask.  Good luck, Cletis! :rofl:  
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18 Jul 2023 6:33 pm
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THE CUMULATIVE WEIGHT OF THE BIDEN CRIME ORGANIZATION OUTWEIGHS ANY CANDIDATE IN THE REPUBLICAN PARTY. INDICTMENTS DON'T MEAN ****.
THIS DOES: 
OPEN BORDERS DESTROYING THE SECURITY OF THE NATION WHILE ILLEGAL ALIENS COST TAXPAYERS BILLIONS IN HOUSING COSTS, FOOD COSTS AND MEDICAL COSTS PUTTING UNWANTED STRESS AND STRAIN ON THESE AGENCIES PROVIDING FOR THEM
AVOIDABLE DRASTIC PRICE INCREASES IN ENERGY COSTS FOR ALL AMERICANS RESULTING IN:
AVOIDABLE DRASTIC PRICE INCREASES IN RETAIL GOODS AND FOOD.
THE WORST FOREIGN RELATIONS OF ANY PAST PRESIDENT
THE DESTRUCTION OF THE AMERICAN DOLLAR.
BRINGING US TO THIRD WORLD STATUS. 

TO NAME A FEW
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18 Jul 2023 7:00 pm
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righteous » 18 Jul 2023, 6:33 pm » wrote: THE CUMULATIVE WEIGHT OF THE BIDEN CRIME ORGANIZATION OUTWEIGHS ANY CANDIDATE IN THE REPUBLICAN PARTY. INDICTMENTS DON'T MEAN ****.
THIS DOES: 
OPEN BORDERS DESTROYING THE SECURITY OF THE NATION WHILE ILLEGAL ALIENS COST TAXPAYERS BILLIONS IN HOUSING COSTS, FOOD COSTS AND MEDICAL COSTS PUTTING UNWANTED STRESS AND STRAIN ON THESE AGENCIES PROVIDING FOR THEM
AVOIDABLE DRASTIC PRICE INCREASES IN ENERGY COSTS FOR ALL AMERICANS RESULTING IN:
AVOIDABLE DRASTIC PRICE INCREASES IN RETAIL GOODS AND FOOD.
THE WORST FOREIGN RELATIONS OF ANY PAST PRESIDENT
THE DESTRUCTION OF THE AMERICAN DOLLAR.
BRINGING US TO THIRD WORLD STATUS. 

TO NAME A FEW
^^^ delusional

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maineman » 18 Jul 2023, 7:00 pm » wrote: ^^^ delusional

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^^^^^^^^^^
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maineman » 18 Jul 2023, 9:57 am » wrote: I would say that the only Democrats Manchin appeals to are inbred ones from West Virginia and DINOS.  Other than that, he and the clown are running in the same lane.
https://twitter.com/i/status/1681390683444084746
 
 
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18 Jul 2023 7:31 pm
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The hammer is about to drop in Washington DC against Trump. He today posted (what a wonderful client he is.:) ) this screed.

“Deranged Jack Smith, the prosecutor with Joe Biden’s DOJ, sent a letter (again, it was Sunday night!) stating that I am a TARGET of the January 6th Grand Jury investigation, and giving me a very short 4 days to report to the Grand Jury, which almost always means an Arrest and Indictment,”

His supporters and detractors both view Trump as a sort of artificial, never changing, plastic mannequin on the screen with an instantly recognizable visage.

But he’s every much as human as we all are.

Jack Smith’s is the Grim Reaper of prosecutors

A Washington DC jury pool is about 96% Democrats

And Trump will have made lots of video of himself admitting all the facts alleged in the indictment

His Mama should have sang him Shackles and Chains as she lulled him into slumber

https://youtu.be/Xl51ePRf3a0

He has to be scared, of prison,

He’s only human.
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18 Jul 2023 7:40 pm
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Bruce » 18 Jul 2023, 7:31 pm » wrote: The hammer is about to drop in Washington DC against Trump. He today posted (what a wonderful client he is.Image ) this screed.

“Deranged Jack Smith, the prosecutor with Joe Biden’s DOJ, sent a letter (again, it was Sunday night!) stating that I am a TARGET of the January 6th Grand Jury investigation, and giving me a very short 4 days to report to the Grand Jury, which almost always means an Arrest and Indictment,”

His supporters and detractors both view Trump as a sort of artificial, never changing, plastic mannequin on the screen with an instantly recognizable visage.

But he’s every much as human as we all are.

Jack Smith’s is the Grim Reaper of prosecutors

A Washington DC jury pool is about 96% Democrats

And Trump will have made lots of video of himself admitting all the facts alleged in the indictment

His Mama should have sang him Shackles and Chains as she lulled him into slumber

https://youtu.be/Xl51ePRf3a0

He has to be scared, of prison,

He’s only human.
MEANWHILE, IN THE MIND OF A CRIME THUG PEDOPHILE WITH DEMENTIA  

https://twitter.com/i/status/1681370591834562560

 
 
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maineman » 18 Jul 2023, 6:27 pm » wrote: It seems like you take a lot of opportunities to take about my genitalia. You should know that I don't swing that way.  I am totally straight and happily married to my wife for over a quarter or a century...maybe you should go hit on THE BIG DOG  ... he is an admitted cock sucker.  Maybe he'd suck yours.  It couldn't hurt to ask.  Good luck, Cletis! Image
I think your *** dicker creds are well established, fruitcake.

You don't have to keep hiding behind that poor, frustrated beard. 
 
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18 Jul 2023 8:08 pm
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righteous » 18 Jul 2023, 7:04 pm » wrote: ^^^^^^^^^^
BRAIN DEAD, PARTY LOYAL, LIVES IN DENIAL, LIVES IN A BUBBLE
anything but ad hominem?  I didn't think so.

Get back to me when you do.  Until then, pleeeeeese don't waste any more of my time.
 
 
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18 Jul 2023 8:11 pm
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maineman » 18 Jul 2023, 8:08 pm » wrote: anything but ad hominids?  I didn't think so.

Get back to me when you do.  Until then, pleeeeeese don't waste any more of my time.
I ANSWERED YOUR LAME THREAD. 
MY ANSWER IS NOT IN LINE WITH YOUR NARRATIVE, SO YOU SCURRIED AWAY AGAIN WITH THE UNREMOVABLE DILDO IN YOUR ***. 
 
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18 Jul 2023 8:18 pm
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righteous » 18 Jul 2023, 8:11 pm » wrote: I ANSWERED YOUR LAME THREAD. 
MY ANSWER IS NOT IN LINE WITH YOUR NARRATIVE, SO YOU SCURRIED AWAY AGAIN WITH THE UNREMOVABLE DILDO IN YOUR ***.
nice dodge.

what does that have to do with the cumulative weight of Trump's nearly 100+ indictments?

Do you even care that your presidential candidate is an indicted felon scores of times over?
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