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“For the love of money is the root of all evil: which while some coveted after, they have erred from the faith, and pierced themselves through with many sorrows.”

Conservatives love to talk about how our society is collapsing. I have seen them blame (some mixture of) the following:

- Porn
- Teacher's Unions
- Democrats
- Soros DAs
- Youth not getting married (between 18-25)
- Video games
- Participation trophies
- RINOs
- Drag queens
- LGB groups
- Marxists/"Cultural Marxists"
- Child predators
- Illegal immigration
- Men competing against womyn
- Divorced/single parent families
- Lowering of standards in education and employment

However, you will never hear one of them blame the glorification of "wealth" (or what passes as "wealth" these days). This, of course, is because conservatives themselves, as a whole, overwhelmingly worship Mammon, not God.

In this episode of Why Most Of You Are Retarded, I will illuminate why THIS is the true harbinger of societal collapse.


Mammonite Pillar #1: An Honest Day's Work 'Fer **** Pay

Older generations were smart. For example, a coal mine worker knew he was being exploited. He did not have any delusions of "becoming 'da boss" one day or some other **** nonsense. He knew the coal mine owner would hand off the deed to his lazy son, not to some "hard workin' folk bustin' his *** off." He also knew that, because his time on Earth was short (and made shorter by breathing in all that carbon monoxide), he wouldn't hesitate to grab his gun and go on strike, comrades willing.

The post-war era brought great blessings to America since all the other countries had their factories levelled. There was a semblance of meritocracy - hence the phrase "honest day's work for an honest day's pay." 

The problem is that, since the end of the Internet bubble, there has not been any "real"/organic growth. Yes, you can point to the rise of smartphones, of cloud computing, of IoT, of eCommerce...and more...and this sector has ballooned since 2000, but for those of you privy to the workings of technology, you are well aware that 1 tech job equates to > 1 (non-tech) job lost. For example, firms used to hire typewriters back in the 60s, but today a single administrative worker can do the job of 5 former typewriters. An Amazon "eCommerce" store today that can be run by a solopreneur would require 3-4 people in a retail setting 40 years ago. 

If you want an even more recent/applicable example, the vast majority of small businesses today run on skeleton crews. It is not uncommon, for example, for one person today to do the job of 3 people back in the year 2000. This is due to small business' collapsing margins forcing the owners to cut costs whenever possible. 

Due to the stagnation of the real economy, people have turned to all sorts of parlor tricks, gimmicks, and questionable hustles to make ends meet, and THIS is when conservatives revealed their true colors. 

Instead of understanding that stagnant wages + high COL + rising expenses every year = low birth rate + contrary to family formation, and proposing some practical solutions that do not have to involve a heavy expansion of taxes or transfers (e.g. reducing zoning regulations, reducing immigration, some jobs programs that are self-funding), conservatives decided to double down on their worship of Mammon.

They basically ignored the issue (that is, stagnant wages + high COL => low birth rate + contrary to family formation). Many of them rejoiced at how their "housing equity" was going up, with their children and grandchildren's blood as black ink.

Which brings me to Pillar #2...




 

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Mammonite Pillar #2: Free Market Theology

"[Almost] all conservatives are retarded, but some conservatives are more retarded than others." ~ George Orwell, Animal Farm

Tucker Carlson is one of the few non-retarded conservatives. Long ago he abandoned "economic libertarianism" as he understood that the American people overwhelmingly despised the idea of letting Wall Street, Silicon Valley, and other juggernauts run amok. (Some of his slow colleagues like Glenn Beck didn't really get the message and paid the price)

Instead of fighting for the "right" of Dow Chemical to dump its toxic waste into our beautiful streams and rivers (which only a liberTARDian would be retarded enough to do), Mr. Carlson decided it would be a much better turn for his career to fight the "culture wars." And he succeeded.

Mr. Carlson, however, is in the minority. The majority of conservatives today are still infatuated with "free market theology." The true reason behind their love affair is not their ideological allegiance (once again, only libertarians are retarded enough to be "True believers" in free market theology) - rather, it's their love of Mammon. 

Conservatives just happen to believe that "free market economics" will maximize the numbers posted in their bank accounts, 401Ks, and brokerages. If only they could get another Reagan or Bush to cut their taxes!

(By the way, that's not true - imagine how much the stock market would implode if the federal government rescinded all of its contracts for SP 500 corporations)

Let me exemplify if you don't understand.

It basically goes something like this: talk with a conservative about any economics subject  - the minimum wage, taxes, regulations, free trade, unions, etc. - and conservatives will quote Milton Friedman. Or, God forbid, Thomas Sowell. Whether they understand the "theory" or actual academics behind their position (e.g. minimum wage bad) is irrelevant. They have a one trick pony to shove in your face.

Free market = good. "Socialism" (which, in the conservative lexicon, means anytime the government "does something") = bad. 

When you prod them a bit further, by introducing proven facts and theories found in Econ 101 and beyond (that run contrary to free market theology e.g. why employment remains stable or increases after minimum wage goes up), conservatives begin to flounder. They have no idea what to say or they bring up a bunch of fallacies.

My favorite is when they show their true colors immediately - "I don't like paying taxes to this stupid/corrupt/inept government."

"I shouldn't have to pay a burger flipper $15/hr." 

This is when you know that they don't actually care about the academic arguments, the empirical data, or theory - they just cared about "the money."

Or, as I've said all along, Mammon.

(This is not the case with libertarians, who will cite the Austrian school, which is one level deeper but still not very sophisticated. Libertarians are usually just naive/disinformed nerds)
 
 

Mammonite Pillar #3: The Un-Heritage Foundation

Both conservatives and liberals love legal immigration. To them, there is nothing more "American" than a hard-working, law abiding Chinese or Mexican who makes his or her way here into the states LEGALLY and then achieves the "American dream."

The American dream, of course, is to become a MCWS - middle class wage slave - and to take on a mortgage so you can pay a banking parasite with your blood, sweat, and tears in exchange for the banking parasite typing some number into a database that represents your debt. 

If you insinuate that liberals and conservatives love legal immigration because...oh, I don't know, it depresses wages (boosts profits for business owners) or helps fund Social Security/Medicare...they will of course deny it. 

There is, however, a problem - you no longer have a "nation." 

From Bowling Alone - a good book:

Greater diversity = lower social capital = fewer meaningful connections = basically your society collapses under the weight of "multiculturalism." (Literally)

Now conservatives will deny they support "diversity." Many of them have made a name mocking diversity as uttered by the left. But ask yourself WHY is it that, under every (R) administration, America has increased its "diversity?" Why has diversity increased under BOTH the tutelage of Rs and Ds? 

(Kind of like how Democrats will say they "oppose" tax cuts but never end up rescinding them. Or they "oppose" wealth inequality while wealth inequality widens when they're in office.)

Immigrants boost GEE DEE PEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!! Immigrants help our economeeeeeeeeeee!!!!!!

 
 

LowIQTrash » 19 Jul 2023, 2:43 am » wrote: ↑

19 Jul 2023, 2:43 am

“For the love of money is the root of all evil: which while some coveted after, they have erred from the faith, and pierced themselves through with many sorrows.”



Which brings me to Pillar #2...

Pure semantics.

Global free trade of one's sole time living for a character role career cradle to grave pretending life isn't eternally separated as genetically here.

Opportunity for power, wealth fame has a price tag of trading one's sole time living cradle to grave thinking life is more than changing population inception to extinction occupying time here.

Buying an immortal soul cost each person their personal time living after birth until dead. Every generation gap added must choose a reality or else face the consequences of trying to make people understanding living in real time disrupting history sustaining reasonable doubts that make it easier to believe in eternal life after dead than stand against humanity when breathing.

Morality, legality, ethics, economics, social consensus, vs adapt or become extinct with chromosomes making each conception a unique time life is lived by an individual alive since conceived occupying time until decomposed for the specific cycle they existed since conception of replacing one's own previous 4 generation gaps left living here in plain sight.

Go ahead and say I am full of ****. My brain navigates what I describe. My sole time living I have never stayed the same form I arrived as a fertilized cell. I like any lifetime every occupying time am one of a kind equally added as a replacement of my ancestry native to this atmosphere alone as are the over 8 billion other homo sapiens living here one at a time.

Opportunity for power, wealth, fame after birth and before dead comes to those preserving reasonable doubt now is eternity. Cost of giving up one's sole time, obligation to keep now is eternity a secret from any generation gap you add keeping the population going in ever changing numbers present.

Every reality of humanity is a dictatorship of "We the people believe eternity is any other time than now.". Disprove that Positive.

Everyone told me growing up nobody can disprove a negative, I have been counter arguing that coming up on 17 years. Disprove this positive certainty my brain has studying compounding chromosomes never same form shaped twice since inception of any life form native to this atmosphere.

Anyone notice I attack ideology, not ancestral time living. Every pay attention how every reality reacts saying I am defaming their character, their ancestral traditions, their tomorrows by just corrupting the constant refusal to admit living is genetically eternally separated by the numbers evolving forward here now?

Mammonite Pillar #4: Feminism

There is a common misconception shared by both pro and anti-feminists. That is, feminism is about "female empowerment."

That may have been true in a bygone era; today feminism is nothing more than a cheap cash grab.

By the 1980s, many feminists learned that simply demanding more "rights" wasn't sufficient. Women needed to be "self sufficient" in order to be "liberated" from men. Of course, achieving that self sufficiency meant...money. 

Freedom = working for a corporation for money.

It is a rare sight today to see a feminist who isn't gung ho about her job or business. The obvious reason is that by acquiring money, the feminist can live a materialistic lifestyle. She doesn't have to worry about her controlling husband restricting her spending - and in the case of a divorce, she won't become desperate.

Despite the fact only a small minority of people proclaim themselves feminists, this tenet of feminism is already internalized by the majority.

And so, Mammon lives on!
 

Final commentary / preemptive replies:

1. "So you blame money worship but not LGBTQ nonsense for ruining society?"

See Japan and China. There is no LGBTQ worship there yet family formation is extremely low. 

(East Asians are very materialistic BTW)

It's almost like there is some common thread here...and it goes beyond drag queens.

2. "Isn't the worship of Mammon introduced by a very specific group?"

Yes

3. "So why aren't you blaming that group?"

Because YOU retarded conservatives (or retarded liberals) love what they've done. You worship at the base of the altar of Mammon while they do so at the top.
 
 

Gee look at you shaming and flaming, pretending you aren't subliminally blaming gaming everyone's reality against themselves.

Nostradamus' omh » 19 Jul 2023, 4:51 am » wrote: ↑

19 Jul 2023, 4:51 am

Gee look at you shaming and flaming, pretending you aren't subliminally blaming gaming everyone's reality against themselves.

Look at you playing attitude and longitude against platitude and latitude within your whole species native to this atmosphere as ancestrally changing population in plain sight now.

One at a time genetics kept eternally separated since inception.

Is there a "solution" offered in this TLDR diatribe? No.
So, some people worship money. Has this ever been NOT true?

Many people may seem like they worship money, so you mix them all together. Lazy thinking.
All they are doing is playing the hand life has dealt: You need money to get by.
It can be very difficult for one person and very easy for the next to acquire the stuff.
Forced and driven are two completely different concepts.

Pretending to be above it all with some pseudo-intellectual soapboxing is a common chatroom ploy.
 
 

LowIQTrash » 19 Jul 2023, 2:43 am » wrote: ↑

19 Jul 2023, 2:43 am

“For the love of money is the root of all evil: which while some coveted after, they have erred from the faith, and pierced themselves through with many sorrows.”

Conservatives love to talk about how our society is collapsing. I have seen them blame (some mixture of) the following:

- Porn
- Teacher's Unions
- Democrats
- Soros DAs
- Youth not getting married (between 18-25)
- Video games
- Participation trophies
- RINOs
- Drag queens
- LGB groups
- Marxists/"Cultural Marxists"
- Child predators
- Illegal immigration
- Men competing against womyn
- Divorced/single parent families
- Lowering of standards in education and employment

However, you will never hear one of them blame the glorification of "wealth" (or what passes as "wealth" these days). This, of course, is because conservatives themselves, as a whole, overwhelmingly worship Mammon, not God.

In this episode of Why Most Of You Are Retarded, I will illuminate why THIS is the true harbinger of societal collapse.

Mammonite Pillar #1: An Honest Day's Work 'Fer **** Pay

Older generations were smart. For example, a coal mine worker knew he was being exploited. He did not have any delusions of "becoming 'da boss" one day or some other **** nonsense. He knew the coal mine owner would hand off the deed to his lazy son, not to some "hard workin' folk bustin' his *** off." He also knew that, because his time on Earth was short (and made shorter by breathing in all that carbon monoxide), he wouldn't hesitate to grab his gun and go on strike, comrades willing.

The post-war era brought great blessings to America since all the other countries had their factories levelled. There was a semblance of meritocracy - hence the phrase "honest day's work for an honest day's pay." 

The problem is that, since the end of the Internet bubble, there has not been any "real"/organic growth. Yes, you can point to the rise of smartphones, of cloud computing, of IoT, of eCommerce...and more...and this sector has ballooned since 2000, but for those of you privy to the workings of technology, you are well aware that 1 tech job equates to > 1 (non-tech) job lost. For example, firms used to hire typewriters back in the 60s, but today a single administrative worker can do the job of 5 former typewriters. An Amazon "eCommerce" store today that can be run by a solopreneur would require 3-4 people in a retail setting 40 years ago. 

If you want an even more recent/applicable example, the vast majority of small businesses today run on skeleton crews. It is not uncommon, for example, for one person today to do the job of 3 people back in the year 2000. This is due to small business' collapsing margins forcing the owners to cut costs whenever possible. 

Due to the stagnation of the real economy, people have turned to all sorts of parlor tricks, gimmicks, and questionable hustles to make ends meet, and THIS is when conservatives revealed their true colors. 

Instead of understanding that stagnant wages + high COL + rising expenses every year = low birth rate + contrary to family formation, and proposing some practical solutions that do not have to involve a heavy expansion of taxes or transfers (e.g. reducing zoning regulations, reducing immigration, some jobs programs that are self-funding), conservatives decided to double down on their worship of Mammon.

They basically ignored the issue (that is, stagnant wages + high COL => low birth rate + contrary to family formation). Many of them rejoiced at how their "housing equity" was going up, with their children and grandchildren's blood as black ink.

Which brings me to Pillar #2...

              Spoken like a man with no money ---- who believes everyone else other than himself is the reason why.  

Our Blessed Savior who was tortured to death on Calvary was recorded as saying something in Aramaic about how greed, avarice, selfishness, or covetness was the root of all evil.

There was also recorded the passage it is easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle than a rich man enter heaven.

What is causing the moral decay in the Republican Party today in America is they nearly all claim to be devout Christians, but hardly any fear themselves actually burning in hell.

Hell is for groomers, liberals, and pedophiles and Democrats, which are nearly all the same low IQ trash anyway.

When I was a Republican we were scared of going to hell, ourselves, if we didn’t walk the straight and narrow path that leads home.

One of the reasons I became a Democrat, was fear of hell.

How could any Republican sing this very old song, I learned as a child?

https://youtu.be/wf4pkPDmCgg

There’s not one thing wrong with Republicans today a good dose of the Sermon on the Mount can’t repair.

Utter B.S.. For a group the worships money, they do a pretty crappy job at actually obtaining that money, that would include liberals also. The bar has been set pretty low, a household with $500k in retirement accounts makes it into the top 10%.

There is only one group that puts a lot of focus on "other people's money". Republicans on the other hand are just trying to hang onto what they earn so they push back on policy's that would pinch them personally.

@LowIQTrash  , your name fits you. You put a lot of effort into your Strawmans. Most Republicans don't take the stand that you just laid out. You threw away quite a bit of time in your rant, time that you will never get back. Well done.

I suppose at least @LowIQTrash  wrote his own piece.  Long winded rambling points and @Deezer Shoove  (as well as @Fuelman  ) ripped it apart in one short paragraph.  Still, not just cut-and-paste gobbly gook like Omh posts and never reads.
 
 

If you haven't figured it out yet, society really doesn't give a crap about you. It's you and your family members against the world. Left, right, it doesn't matter!

Bruce » 19 Jul 2023, 9:06 am » wrote: ↑

19 Jul 2023, 9:06 am

One of the reasons I became a Democrat, was fear of hell.

What, where, when, which, who goes physical hell/eternal damnation, how and why?


Do you completely understand evolving as it happens or not? This is a yes or no question the first one wasn't.

Nice long list of blames. You forgot this one. One of the worst of the collapse.  Is he of the Mammon tribe?


 

 

LowIQTrash » 19 Jul 2023, 2:43 am » wrote: ↑

19 Jul 2023, 2:43 am

Mammonite Pillar #1: An Honest Day's Work 'Fer **** Pay

Older generations were smart. For example, a coal mine worker knew he was being exploited. He did not have any delusions of "becoming 'da boss" one day or some other **** nonsense. He knew the coal mine owner would hand off the deed to his lazy son, not to some "hard workin' folk bustin' his *** off." He also knew that, because his time on Earth was short (and made shorter by breathing in all that carbon monoxide), he wouldn't hesitate to grab his gun and go on strike, comrades willing.

The post-war era brought great blessings to America since all the other countries had their factories levelled. There was a semblance of meritocracy - hence the phrase "honest day's work for an honest day's pay." 

The problem is that, since the end of the Internet bubble, there has not been any "real"/organic growth. Yes, you can point to the rise of smartphones, of cloud computing, of IoT, of eCommerce...and more...and this sector has ballooned since 2000, but for those of you privy to the workings of technology, you are well aware that 1 tech job equates to > 1 (non-tech) job lost. For example, firms used to hire typewriters back in the 60s, but today a single administrative worker can do the job of 5 former typewriters. An Amazon "eCommerce" store today that can be run by a solopreneur would require 3-4 people in a retail setting 40 years ago. 

If you want an even more recent/applicable example, the vast majority of small businesses today run on skeleton crews. It is not uncommon, for example, for one person today to do the job of 3 people back in the year 2000. This is due to small business' collapsing margins forcing the owners to cut costs whenever possible. 

Due to the stagnation of the real economy, people have turned to all sorts of parlor tricks, gimmicks, and questionable hustles to make ends meet, and THIS is when conservatives revealed their true colors. 

Instead of understanding that stagnant wages + high COL + rising expenses every year = low birth rate + contrary to family formation, and proposing some practical solutions that do not have to involve a heavy expansion of taxes or transfers (e.g. reducing zoning regulations, reducing immigration, some jobs programs that are self-funding), conservatives decided to double down on their worship of Mammon.

They basically ignored the issue (that is, stagnant wages + high COL => low birth rate + contrary to family formation). Many of them rejoiced at how their "housing equity" was going up, with their children and grandchildren's blood as black ink.

Which brings me to Pillar #2...

Precisely on the money.

I was called a communist by any on this board for DARING to question globalism and for refusing to pretend that what wall street - which conjobs worshiped and venerated at the time, and the left THEN opposed - practiced anything analogous to "Free Enterprise."

They salivated over "good" billionaires, defending their legitimacy and their "right" to be wealthier than many of the world's nations (They still do).
They hen-clucked about "bad" billionaire - but never dared to question the legitimacy of their obscene, impossible-to-legitimately-earn wealth.

Conjobs worship mammon. 
 
 
 

DeezerShoove » 19 Jul 2023, 7:03 am » wrote: ↑

19 Jul 2023, 7:03 am

Is there a "solution" offered in this TLDR diatribe? No.

Is such a prerequisite of an indictment? No.

DeezerShoove » 19 Jul 2023, 7:03 am » wrote: ↑

19 Jul 2023, 7:03 am

So, some people worship money. Has this ever been NOT true?

No. But the indictment of this nation in the OP and follow-on posts is speaking to a nation that once had higher values.

DeezerShoove » 19 Jul 2023, 7:03 am » wrote: ↑

19 Jul 2023, 7:03 am

Many people may seem like they worship money, so you mix them all together. Lazy thinking.

If it doesn't apply to you, don't assume it does. Lazy thinking.

DeezerShoove » 19 Jul 2023, 7:03 am » wrote: ↑

19 Jul 2023, 7:03 am

All they are doing is playing the hand life has dealt: You need money to get by.
It can be very difficult for one person and very easy for the next to acquire the stuff.
Forced and driven are two completely different concepts.

Pretending to be above it all with some pseudo-intellectual soapboxing is a common chatroom ploy.

None of this invalidates his indictment. If you are looking to mitigate against our culpability for our communal Mammon worship, fine - do so. Make your case why we should not be judged Mammonites because we were only dealt Mammonite cards from a Mammonite deck.

When you're done, it's STILL gonna come back to the only possible solution - public summary exectuions and camps - lots of camps.