At least the news media is trying

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By ConsRule
31 Jul 2023 10:28 am in No Holds Barred Political Forum
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ConsRule
31 Jul 2023 10:28 am
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I am seeing more and more articles and television segments on the SAG-AFTRA and WGA strike.  They are desperately trying to work up sympathy among the public. I have even seen multiple stories of members of those unions having to take "desperate measures" and take jobs.  Getting a real job is not a desperate measure...it's life. Fortunately, most people see right through the facade.

What those on strike won't tell you, is all of them sign personal contracts.  If the terms of those contracts are not acceptable, they shouldn't sign the damn thing.  It's not the studios fault their unions are weak as ****.  Some of the stories talk about the crap residuals they get and how some shows are recorded and pitched but never see the light of day so residuals never materialize.  Ok...your point?  You signed the contract for that work thinking/hoping it would turn into something big.  They call it gambling for a reason. If every member of those unions simply took the approach "I'm not signing that generic contract until these terms are changed", things would get better.  The honest truth is, it's an "every man for himself" industry and those that are getting successful (and those who have made it) are not going to stay out long to help others with low(er) talent. 

Lots of people risk everything to "follow their dream".  The sad truth is most fail.  Sorry...welcome to the world of adulthood.


 
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31 Jul 2023 2:14 pm
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ConsRule » 31 Jul 2023, 10:28 am » wrote: I am seeing more and more articles and television segments on the SAG-AFTRA and WGA strike. 
 
Nobody gives a **** about Hollywood.  Burn Hollywood, burn!!!Image
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ConsRule » 31 Jul 2023, 10:28 am » wrote: I am seeing more and more articles and television segments on the SAG-AFTRA and WGA strike.  They are desperately trying to work up sympathy among the public. I have even seen multiple stories of members of those unions having to take "desperate measures" and take jobs.  Getting a real job is not a desperate measure...it's life. Fortunately, most people see right through the facade.

What those on strike won't tell you, is all of them sign personal contracts.  If the terms of those contracts are not acceptable, they shouldn't sign the damn thing.  It's not the studios fault their unions are weak as ****.  Some of the stories talk about the crap residuals they get and how some shows are recorded and pitched but never see the light of day so residuals never materialize.  Ok...your point?  You signed the contract for that work thinking/hoping it would turn into something big.  They call it gambling for a reason. If every member of those unions simply took the approach "I'm not signing that generic contract until these terms are changed", things would get better.  The honest truth is, it's an "every man for himself" industry and those that are getting successful (and those who have made it) are not going to stay out long to help others with low(er) talent. 

Lots of people risk everything to "follow their dream".  The sad truth is most fail.  Sorry...welcome to the world of adulthood.
what strikes again?
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PhiloBeddo
31 Jul 2023 3:19 pm
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Trying or Lying. Did you make a typing error.
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RebelGator
31 Jul 2023 3:25 pm
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ConsRule » 31 Jul 2023, 10:28 am » wrote: I am seeing more and more articles and television segments on the SAG-AFTRA and WGA strike.  They are desperately trying to work up sympathy among the public. I have even seen multiple stories of members of those unions having to take "desperate measures" and take jobs.  Getting a real job is not a desperate measure...it's life. Fortunately, most people see right through the facade.

What those on strike won't tell you, is all of them sign personal contracts.  If the terms of those contracts are not acceptable, they shouldn't sign the damn thing.  It's not the studios fault their unions are weak as ****.  Some of the stories talk about the crap residuals they get and how some shows are recorded and pitched but never see the light of day so residuals never materialize.  Ok...your point?  You signed the contract for that work thinking/hoping it would turn into something big.  They call it gambling for a reason. If every member of those unions simply took the approach "I'm not signing that generic contract until these terms are changed", things would get better.  The honest truth is, it's an "every man for himself" industry and those that are getting successful (and those who have made it) are not going to stay out long to help others with low(er) talent. 

Lots of people risk everything to "follow their dream".  The sad truth is most fail.  Sorry...welcome to the world of adulthood.
Every man for himself?

Then why do they need a union?

Speaking of unions, they just bankrupted Yellow Freight, a 100 year old company.
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31 Jul 2023 3:44 pm
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RebelGator » 31 Jul 2023, 3:25 pm » wrote: Every man for himself?

Then why do they need a union?

Speaking of unions, they just bankrupted Yellow Freight, a 100 year old company.
“Today’s news is unfortunate but not surprising. Yellow has historically proven that it could not manage itself despite billions of dollars in worker concessions and hundreds of millions in bailout funding from the federal government. This is a sad day for workers and the American freight industry,” said Teamsters President Sean O’Brien in a statement.Company officials did not respond to numerous requests for comment Sunday and Monday. While the company is based in Nashville, Tennessee, it is a national company with terminals and employees spread between more than 300 terminals nationwide. Experts in the field said it was primarily an unaffordable amount of debt, more than the cost of the union contract, that did in Yellow.“The Teamsters had made a series of painful concessions that brought them close to wage parity with nonunion carriers,” said Tom Nightingale, CEO of AFS Logistics, a third-party logistics firm that places about $11 billion worth of freight annually with different trucking companies on behalf of shippers. He said the company began taking on significant amount of debt 20 years ago in order to acquire other trucking companies.

https://www.cnn.com/2023/07/31/business ... index.html
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Neo
31 Jul 2023 4:12 pm
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**** timing on their part. AI writes better scripts than 95% of Hollywood writers and doesn't collect royalties. **** em. Let new writers cross the picket line. Replace the big name actors that stand with the unions with those willing to work.
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