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Neo » 01 Aug 2023, 1:49 pm » wrote: ↑

01 Aug 2023, 1:49 pm

And ya wonder why it's widely known Ukraine has actual nazis in their ranks. They were ethnically cleansing eastern Ukraine for years, that is part of the reason Russia invaded. Years of civilians murdered for their ethnicity.

PROVE IT !!

YOU are JUST SPOUTING Putin PROPAGANDA!!

ConservativeWave » 01 Aug 2023, 5:41 pm » wrote: ↑

01 Aug 2023, 5:41 pm

PROVE IT !!

YOU are JUST SPOUTING Putin PROPAGANDA!!

Prove 15000 dead eastern Ukrainian civilians since 2014? That is not propaganda, it's an agreed on fact. 
 

ConservativeWave » 01 Aug 2023, 5:38 pm » wrote: ↑

01 Aug 2023, 5:38 pm

BULL **** !!  The WAR is being fought because Putin invaded Ukraine... FIRST and FOREMOST !

THEN, there is the FACT, that Poland, Romania, the Baltic states Sweden and MORE KNOW...  THEY could be next... IF Putin is permitted to win... while LOSING and BEING EMBARRASSED on the battlefield !

Neville Chamberlain was EXACTLY that type of leader.. and was MOST PROBABLY the MAIN REASON WW2 happened... "Peace in "OUR TIME"?... MY *** !!

THIS is "the time" for some BALLS... because otherwise... WW3 is coming as JUST AS SURE as WW2 came last time that DESPOT DICTATORS wanted to RULE the planet !

****. zelinsky said he wanted to fight russia and get crimea vack weeks before the invasion. aaaand when all the tanks were all lined up biden should have said ukaraine cant join nato. 
 
 

Neo » 01 Aug 2023, 5:07 pm » wrote: ↑

01 Aug 2023, 5:07 pm

Pissed is putting it mildly. When it was suggested that Russia was paying bounties on US troops in Afghanistan I remember people calling it an act of war. We changed the face of the middle east over three buildings and 4000 people. Imagine we would be pretty pissed if Russia armed those that killed 250,000 of their people. We should have stopped this with diplomacy. No nato membership for Ukraine was a reasonable request. This was all avoidable.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-62487303
The war in Ukraine began with Crimea and must end with its liberation, President Volodymyr Zelensky has said.Ukraine's president was speaking after a string of explosions hit a Russian airbase there, killing one person.Mr Zelensky did not mention Tuesday's blasts but said: "Crimea is Ukrainian and we will never give it up."Russia's defence ministry said ammunition detonated at the base. Meanwhile, Ukraine denied any responsibility for the explosion



 

ConservativeWave » 01 Aug 2023, 5:38 pm » wrote: ↑

01 Aug 2023, 5:38 pm

BULL **** !!  The WAR is being fought because Putin invaded Ukraine... FIRST and FOREMOST !

THEN, there is the FACT, that Poland, Romania, the Baltic states Sweden and MORE KNOW...  THEY could be next... IF Putin is permitted to win... while LOSING and BEING EMBARRASSED on the battlefield !

Neville Chamberlain was EXACTLY that type of leader.. and was MOST PROBABLY the MAIN REASON WW2 happened... "Peace in "OUR TIME"?... MY *** !!

THIS is "the time" for some BALLS... because otherwise... WW3 is coming as JUST AS SURE as WW2 came last time that DESPOT DICTATORS wanted to RULE the planet !

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https://theowp.org/ukraine-declares-all ... om-russia/

According to Ukraine’s National Security and Defense Council Decree no. 117/2021, Ukraine has committed to putting all options on the table to taking back control over the Russian annexed Crimea region. Signed on March 24th, President Zelensky has committed the country to pursue strategies that Ukrinform reports “will prepare and implement measures to ensure the de-occupation and reintegration of the peninsula.”Although Zelensky had previously indicated that he would attempt diplomacy with Russia, this decision by his government comes as the unresolved grief in the region, originating from the 2014 Ukrainian revolution/coup, appears to be coming to a dangerous head in what looks like an almost certain war. At the date of this article, Russia has responded by mobilizing many thousands of troops near the two nation’s borders in response to Ukraine’s provocations, with a senior Russian official claiming that military action “would be the beginning of the end of Ukraine.”
 

Neo » 01 Aug 2023, 5:07 pm » wrote: ↑

01 Aug 2023, 5:07 pm

Pissed is putting it mildly. When it was suggested that Russia was paying bounties on US troops in Afghanistan I remember people calling it an act of war. We changed the face of the middle east over three buildings and 4000 people. Imagine we would be pretty pissed if Russia armed those that killed 250,000 of their people. We should have stopped this with diplomacy. No nato membership for Ukraine was a reasonable request. This was all avoidable.

is crimea worth all this crap?

-----------------------------------------------KYIV, Ukraine -- In a wide-ranging new interview with ABC News from his country's capital, Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy reiterated that he would "never" agree to cede any territory to Russian invaders, including the illegally annexed Crimean peninsula -- but he acknowledged another possible end to the 500-day war.In a sit-down with ABC News' Chief Global Affairs Correspondent Martha Raddatz that aired Sunday on "This Week," Zelenskyy did not dispute Washington Post reporting that Ukrainian officials told CIA Director William Burns on a recent trip to Kyiv that the aim of a new counteroffensive is to approach the Crimean boundary and then force Russian President Vladimir Putin into negotiations.
 

Neo » 01 Aug 2023, 2:02 pm » wrote: ↑

01 Aug 2023, 2:02 pm

Believe Oppenheimer should be mandatory viewing. We are playing chicken with forces that can literally destroy the planet. This isn't some long term prolonged death from a warming climate, it's the thermonuclear death of billions of people. Yes Russias army sucks if we prop Ukraine up with billions of dollars of Nato weapons. Russia has always sucked on the battlefield. They lost millions fighting Hitler, many shot by their own officers when they tried to retreat. The Russian threat was never conventional after they developed thermonuclear and neutron weapons, it's nuclear.

my solution - no weapons to ukraine and ukraine agrees to a peace  pact and forgets about crimea. it is the only way.

 
 

jerrab » 01 Aug 2023, 7:05 pm » wrote: ↑

01 Aug 2023, 7:05 pm

my solution - no weapons to ukraine and ukraine agrees to a peace  pact and forgets about crimea. it is the only way.

Not sure Russia will agree to that without assurances Ukraine will never be allowed membership in nato and the ethnic cleansing stops in Eastern Ukraine. Don't see Zelensky agreeing unless the west cuts military aid. 
 

Sumela » 01 Aug 2023, 10:09 am » wrote: ↑

01 Aug 2023, 10:09 am

LOL...Pole-***.

Those Poleys....LOVE...POLE

   

My Tribe can whoop.......your tribe.
Wanna bet ?
How much ?                      


U.S. Marine Corps.                                
https://youtu.be/tuoyeNqRI8A
 

jerrab » 01 Aug 2023, 7:05 pm » wrote: ↑

01 Aug 2023, 7:05 pm

my solution - no weapons to ukraine and ukraine agrees to a peace  pact and forgets about crimea. it is the only way.

Not bad.
We can talk.                          

ConservativeWave » 01 Aug 2023, 5:28 pm » wrote: ↑

01 Aug 2023, 5:28 pm

Even in WW2, Russians would have been speaking GERMAN if it wouldn't have been for AMERICAN money, manufacturing, technology, ammunition, and firepower... Yes, they MAY have nuclear weapons... but WHO KNOWS if they even WORK any longer?  MOST of them are Cold War era, and so, MANY years old. 

SHOULD we be COWERED into letting them win... by THREATS ?

At SOME POINT... You have GOT to have the balls to FIGHT BACK... or WHAT you end up living ... is NOT REALLY "life" !

Yer a complete ****.  Uneducated retard. HAHA...ever heard of reading?  Catching up?

Its the US that has 45 yr old Minutemen that have sat and rusted in bunkers for 5 decades.

Meanwhile, Russia has new nukes.  Plus hypersonic missiles.  
 
 

Every officer in the United States military should put in a separation request
 

ConservativeWave » 01 Aug 2023, 5:30 pm » wrote: ↑

01 Aug 2023, 5:30 pm

Yea, but we SHOULD NOT be counting Germans that were KILLED AFTER they surrendered !

...and I think the WORLD KNOWS there were MANY !

Dead Nazis are the best Nazis...you old ***
 

Skans » 01 Aug 2023, 1:57 pm » wrote: ↑

01 Aug 2023, 1:57 pm

That's just YOUR opinion.

MOST EVERYONES WITH A BRAIN

Neo » 01 Aug 2023, 2:02 pm » wrote: ↑

01 Aug 2023, 2:02 pm

Believe Oppenheimer should be mandatory viewing. We are playing chicken with forces that can literally destroy the planet. This isn't some long term prolonged death from a warming climate, it's the thermonuclear death of billions of people. Yes Russias army sucks if we prop Ukraine up with billions of dollars of Nato weapons. Russia has always sucked on the battlefield. They lost millions fighting Hitler, many shot by their own officers when they tried to retreat. The Russian threat was never conventional after they developed thermonuclear and neutron weapons, it's nuclear.

THE SOVIET ARMYS OPERATION BAGRATION OFFENSIVE IN JUNE 1944 RESULTED IN 400,000 CASUALTIES INFLICTED ON THE REICH.
This theory of warfare aimed to send enormous military formations crashing into an enemy’s front line in different places, often one after another in waves, with heavily-armored “shock” armies breaking through weak points into an enemy’s logistical backbone in the rear. Given the chaos and disruption caused by this strategy, the enemy would not know where the overpowered shock armies would hit.

More drones attack Moscow? Wow Putin needs to upgrade their defenses lol

righteous » 01 Aug 2023, 7:57 pm » wrote: ↑

01 Aug 2023, 7:57 pm

THE SOVIET ARMYS OPERATION BAGRATION OFFENSIVE IN JUNE 1944 RESULTED IN 400,000 CASUALTIES INFLICTED ON THE REICH.
This theory of warfare aimed to send enormous military formations crashing into an enemy’s front line in different places, often one after another in waves, with heavily-armored “shock” armies breaking through weak points into an enemy’s logistical backbone in the rear. Given the chaos and disruption caused by this strategy, the enemy would not know where the overpowered shock armies would hit.

NEO is lost is silly propaganda.

"""yeah they won and saved their 1200 old country....but dam lots of soldiers died""

Silly as ****
 

Sumela » 01 Aug 2023, 8:02 pm » wrote: ↑

01 Aug 2023, 8:02 pm

NEO is lost is silly propaganda.

"""yeah they won and saved their 1200 old country....but dam lots of soldiers died""

Silly as ****

SKANSY IS THE BIGGEST NEO-CON HERE. 
 

righteous » 01 Aug 2023, 8:05 pm » wrote: ↑

01 Aug 2023, 8:05 pm

SKANSY IS THE BIGGEST NEO-CON HERE.

Sadly yes.  NEO is usually a solid poster.

But Skanny, Taippy, ConWave are unhinged Neocon ****.  AKA...RINOS
 

Sumela » 01 Aug 2023, 8:08 pm » wrote: ↑

01 Aug 2023, 8:08 pm

Sadly yes.  NEO is usually a solid poster.

But Skanny, Taippy, ConWave are unhinged Neocon ****.  AKA...RINOS

NEO IS A GOOD POSTER. HAS A GOOD GRASP OF THE GEOPOLITICAL CLIMATE.
YOU ARE RIGHT ABOUT THE OTHERS.