The smoking gun: New Mexico

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By Bruce
1 Aug 2023 7:02 pm in No Holds Barred Political Forum
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Bruce
1 Aug 2023 7:02 pm
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'FROM TODAY’S INDICTMENT

b. The Defendant and co-conspirators organized fraudulent slates of electors in seven targeted states (Arizona, Georgia, Michigan, Nevada, New Mexico, Pennsylvania, and Wisconsin), attempting to mimic the procedures that the legitimate electors were supposed to follow under the Constitution and other federal and state laws. This included causing the fraudulent electors to meet on the day appointed by federal law on which legitimate electors were to gather and cast their votes; cast fraudulent votes for the Defendant; and sign certificates falsely representing that they were legitimate electors. Some fraudulent electors were tricked into participating based on the understanding that their votes would be used only if the Defendant succeeded in outcome-determinative lawsuits within their state, which the Defendant never did. The Defendant and co-conspirators then
caused these fraudulent electors to transmit their false certificates to the Vice President and other government officials to be counted at the certification proceeding on January 6.

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Hillary Clinton beat Trump by six points in 2016 and in 2020 Biden stomped him in New Mexico by almost 11 points.  Biden beat Trump in New Mexico 500,000 to 400,000 votes.  Every poll predicted that outcome.  It wasn’t remotely close.

Until today, I thought Trump actually believed, himself, the wild delusion he’d been cheated by voter fraud.

Trump was a fraud.  He knew he’d lost.

No way even Trump, thought Trump won New Mexico.

 
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1 Aug 2023 7:25 pm
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if you question an election committee, the police will arrest you. oh.....that is true in usa.
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Bruce
1 Aug 2023 7:41 pm
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if you question an election committee, the police will arrest you. oh.....that is true in usa.
You’d  not have it any other way.

They should arrest your sorry, lying ***.

A Republican will win Mississippi next year and a Democrat will win New Mexico.  

Biden beat Trump in New Mexico by roughly the same margins as Trump beat Biden in Mississippi 

 
When Biden loses Mississippi next year, and he will, should Biden fake up some Democrat electors to send to the electoral count?

Trump did the same thing about New Mexico.
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Sumela
1 Aug 2023 7:44 pm
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Murka is crumbling under Biden

Banana Republic
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Bruce
1 Aug 2023 7:46 pm
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Sumela » 01 Aug 2023, 7:44 pm » wrote: Murka is crumbling under Biden

Banana Republic
The Department of Justice isn’t crumbling.

 
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1 Aug 2023 7:48 pm
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Bruce » 01 Aug 2023, 7:02 pm » wrote: Until today, I thought Trump actually believed, himself, the wild delusion he’d been cheated by voter fraud.

Trump was a fraud.  He knew he’d lost.
Now Jack Smith has to first prove that there was no election fraud, THEN he has to PROVE Trump knew there was no election fraud when he made those statements. 

This is why Jack got bitch slapped by SCOTUS 9-0.
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Sumela
1 Aug 2023 7:50 pm
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Its bad.

TWO consecutive violent distrusted elections.

In the beginning of the end. More divisive every day.

all empires end
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1 Aug 2023 7:51 pm
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Bruce » 01 Aug 2023, 7:46 pm » wrote: The Department of Justice isn’t crumbling.
No, they're just changing their logo from 
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Sumela
1 Aug 2023 7:51 pm
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The world is moving east.

They know WASH DC cannot be trusted
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1 Aug 2023 7:52 pm
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Sumela » 01 Aug 2023, 7:50 pm » wrote: Its bad.

TWO consecutive violent distrusted elections.

In the beginning of the end. More divisive every day.

all empires end
They are claiming Trump obstructed an election. 

How is Jack Smith not obstructing an election, when he's making up fake indictment charges against his President's main opponent?
 
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1 Aug 2023 8:00 pm
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golfboy » 01 Aug 2023, 7:52 pm » wrote: They are claiming Trump obstructed an election. 

How is Jack Smith not obstructing an election, when he's making up fake indictment charges against his President's main opponent?
After RussiaGate

any type of chaos is possible from the DNC. 

Theyd rather burn it all down than lose.
 
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Bruce
1 Aug 2023 8:08 pm
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golfboy » 01 Aug 2023, 7:48 pm » wrote: Now Jack Smith has to first prove that there was no election fraud, THEN he has to PROVE Trump knew there was no election fraud when he made those statements. 

This is why Jack got bitch slapped by SCOTUS 9-0.
Tell me how Joe Biden stole New Mexico by 11 points, 500,000 to 400,000.

 
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Sumela
1 Aug 2023 8:10 pm
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I expect violence will be the norm

after the 2024 elections.

We need international monitors just like any Banana Republic
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1 Aug 2023 8:11 pm
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Bruce » 01 Aug 2023, 8:08 pm » wrote: Tell me how Joe Biden stole New Mexico by 11 points, 500,000 to 400,000.
He never said that.  He said that there was fraud, and that dominion voting machines changed votes.
We now know those machines were connected to the internet.   Jack Smith now has to PROVE in court, that votes could not have been changed via that internet connection. 

 
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Bruce
1 Aug 2023 8:20 pm
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golfboy » 01 Aug 2023, 8:11 pm » wrote: He never said that.  He said that there was fraud, and that dominion voting machines changed votes.
We now know those machines were connected to the internet.   Jack Smith now has to PROVE in court, that votes could not have been changed via that internet connection.
Trump did say Dominion election machines changed votes, which later was proven total complete bull ****.  Fox News had to pay Dominion close to a billion dollars for that lie.

But exactly as all Republican polls predicted, Biden won New Mexico by double digits, same as Trump won Mississippi by double digits.

One lie is all it takes.

Then it’s time for Shackles and Chains

https://youtu.be/8tp51HDX3B4
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1 Aug 2023 8:26 pm
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Bruce » 01 Aug 2023, 8:20 pm » wrote: Trump did say Dominion election machines changed votes, which later was proven total complete bull ****.  Fox News had to pay Dominion close to a billion dollars for that lie.

But exactly as all Republican polls predicted, Biden won New Mexico by double digits, same as Trump won Mississippi by double digits.

One lie is all it takes.

Then it’s time for Shackles and Chains
About a week after Fox paid off Dominion, "news" came out about how easy it was to hack Dominion machines and change votes.
It's going to be amusing watching Jack Smith prove votes weren't changed. 

Funny now NBC held that "news" until after Fox Paid dominion, isn't it?
 
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1 Aug 2023 8:27 pm
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Sumela » 01 Aug 2023, 8:10 pm » wrote: I expect violence will be the norm

after the 2024 elections.

We need international monitors just like any Banana Republic
It would be wise for no more repeat attacks on our Capitol the next time they certify the electoral vote count.

The gubbermint owns all the Predator drones and A-10s.:)

There would be dead MAGAS stacked seven deep.
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1 Aug 2023 8:28 pm
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Bruce » 01 Aug 2023, 8:27 pm » wrote: It would be wise for no more repeat attacks on our Capitol the next time they certify the electoral vote count.

The gubbermint owns all the Predator drones and A-10s.Image

There would be dead MAGAS stacked seven deep.
This idiot is still claiming there was an armed insurrection.

You know what Bruce?  You should educate yourself about insurrections. 
 
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Bruce
1 Aug 2023 8:37 pm
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golfboy » 01 Aug 2023, 8:28 pm » wrote: This idiot is still claiming there was an armed insurrection.

You know what Bruce?  You should educate yourself about insurrections.
I have a lot of admiration for the Proud Boys who organized the January 6 assault.  It achieved it’s object, but failed to secure Trump a victory.

First, the plotters knew even a BB pistol would provoke an armed response plus, at least 90% of the crowd thought it was going to be a peaceful protest.

They whipped up the crowd into a frenzied mob,

If the mob, even one, would have had firearms the death toll would have been in the hundreds.

Next time, if there is a next time, they’ll get mowed down like wheat if they cross “dead lines”
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1 Aug 2023 8:45 pm
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Bruce » 01 Aug 2023, 8:37 pm » wrote: I have a lot of admiration for the Proud Boys who organized the January 6 assault.  It achieved it’s object, but failed to secure Trump a victory.

First, the plotters knew even a BB pistol would provoke an armed response plus, at least 90% of the crowd thought it was going to be a peaceful protest.

They whipped up the crowd into a frenzied mob,

If the mob, even one, would have had firearms the death toll would have been in the hundreds.

Next time, if there is a next time, they’ll get mowed down like wheat if they cross “dead lines”
Thanks for admitting there was no insurrection, and that Jack Smith's charges are a lie. 
 
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