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jerrab » 03 Aug 2023, 9:47 pm » wrote: ↑

03 Aug 2023, 9:47 pm

it was not one person, hundreds but you know that. 

many cops got hit. but you know that.

don't act stupid.

With a flag pole as hard as could be hit... in the head...  yeah... ok.

jerrab » 03 Aug 2023, 9:47 pm » wrote: ↑

03 Aug 2023, 9:47 pm

it was not one person, hundreds but you know that. 

many cops got hit. but you know that.

don't act stupid.

You still pushing that unarmed insurrection stupdity?    

The crowd was completely peaceful until the police attacked them.

 

golfboy » 03 Aug 2023, 9:43 pm » wrote: ↑

03 Aug 2023, 9:43 pm

That's weird because I saw his tweets that day.
But liberals didn't want anyone to see/hear that. 

the insurrectionists saw it that day and tried to kill pence because of it.
 

golfboy » 03 Aug 2023, 9:43 pm » wrote: ↑

03 Aug 2023, 9:43 pm

That's weird because I saw his tweets that day.
But liberals didn't want anyone to see/hear that. 

https://youtu.be/X-I7KTnWTOw

jerrab » 03 Aug 2023, 5:39 pm » wrote: ↑

03 Aug 2023, 5:39 pm

it was not a soft coup.

The 45 page indictment is likely to become one of the most important seventh grade civics lessons for hundreds of years yet to come.

Kids in the future won’t know about us, and our times.

Trump was the President.  He had the right and duty to investigate claims of election fraud.  He had the right to recounts, and to file lawsuits.  

But our constitution provides the states hold elections.  And it also provides that on December 14 of 2020 all those states had to convene electors and certify the results.  All the states did that.  It was over.  Done 

Trump’s crime was to along with what Mike Pence has called “a gaggle of crackpot lawyers” convene in 7 states, including solid blue New Mexico, fake electors and attempt using the crackpot theories of John Eastman try to have Mike Pence reject the real electoral  votes and gavel the election to Donald Trump.

Pence considered it, and walked back from treason.

This is pure banana republic attempted coup.  

 

Bruce » 03 Aug 2023, 11:07 pm » wrote: ↑

03 Aug 2023, 11:07 pm

The 45 page indictment is likely to become one of the most important seventh grade civics lessons for hundreds of years yet to come.

Kids in the future won’t know about us, and our times.

Trump was the President.  He had the right and duty to investigate claims of election fraud.  He had the right to recounts, and to file lawsuits.  

But our constitution provides the states hold elections.  And it also provides that on December 14 of 2020 all those states had to convene electors and certify the results.  All the states did that.  It was over.  Done 

Trump’s crime was to along with what Mike Pence has called “a gaggle of crackpot lawyers” convene in 7 states, including solid blue New Mexico, fake electors and attempt using the crackpot theories of John Eastman try to have Mike Pence reject the real electoral  votes and gavel the election to Donald Trump.

Pence considered it, and walked back from treason.

This is pure banana republic attempted coup.

https://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/tru ... 918405RUMP SOUGHT TO CREATE "ATMOSPHERE OF MISTRUST AND ANGER," INDICTMENT SAYSThe indictment filed against Donald Trump lays out how again and again, Republican state officials, Justice Department officials and the president’s own campaign staff refuted his false claims about the 2020 election — including those “on whom he relied for candid advice on important matters.”For example, Trump claimed more than 10,000 dead people voted in Georgia four days after that state’s top elections official told him that was not true. He contended that there were 205,000 more votes than voters in Pennsylvania after his own Acting Attorney General told him that was not true. He alleged more than 30,000 non-citizens voted in Arizona even though his own campaign manager said that was false. 
 

jerrab » 03 Aug 2023, 11:24 pm » wrote: ↑

03 Aug 2023, 11:24 pm

https://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/tru ... 918405RUMP SOUGHT TO CREATE "ATMOSPHERE OF MISTRUST AND ANGER," INDICTMENT SAYSThe indictment filed against Donald Trump lays out how again and again, Republican state officials, Justice Department officials and the president’s own campaign staff refuted his false claims about the 2020 election — including those “on whom he relied for candid advice on important matters.”For example, Trump claimed more than 10,000 dead people voted in Georgia four days after that state’s top elections official told him that was not true. He contended that there were 205,000 more votes than voters in Pennsylvania after his own Acting Attorney General told him that was not true. He alleged more than 30,000 non-citizens voted in Arizona even though his own campaign manager said that was false.

I would not want to live in a nation where mere lies were  federal felonies.  

Most Presidents we’ve had don’t make a policy out of lying.  But many make unsubstantiated claims.

Trump’s wild lies are evidence he was attempting an illegal coup.

He could have lied to his heart’s content.

The line he could not cross was assembling 7 slates of fake electors to give to Mike Pence to overturn an election.

I we allow one man to do that today, in years to come other men will try it.

Bruce » 04 Aug 2023, 12:03 am » wrote: ↑

04 Aug 2023, 12:03 am

I would not want to live in a nation where mere lies were  federal felonies.  

Most Presidents we’ve had don’t make a policy out of lying.  But many make unsubstantiated claims.

Trump’s wild lies are evidence he was attempting an illegal coup.

He could have lied to his heart’s content.

The line he could not cross was assembling 7 slates of fake electors to give to Mike Pence to overturn an election.

I we allow one man to do that today, in years to come other men will try it.

  And those dummy electors will get to face hard time from Michigan at least. They've been caught dead to rights.
 Being in age from 55 to 82 I'm going out on a limb and say they're going to sing loud and long to save their sorry asses.
Michigan has also charged 3 people with **** with voting machines. Seems some trump supporters stole some and tried to make them look corrupt.
 
 

Oh boy 

jerra b » 03 Aug 2023, 3:43 pm » wrote: ↑

03 Aug 2023, 3:43 pm

and how is pence won't do what we want him to do is peaceful?
 
 

When a person stands their time in an arena of ideas, are they trying to conquer space or other people's time mutually evolving forward here?

How does a brain know the difference between instinctive reactions and intellectually programmed responses defending corruption as usual?

Why am I here vs who can I become tomorrow.

the battle within a sole creating a consensual soul dedicated to the proposition humans are exempt from the natural process of evolving in plain sight because "WE believe there is more to living than just adapting to time while spaced apart ancestrally here.".

Pride before the downfall.

What is an alternate reality but a group of ancestral lineages denying now is eternity and colonizing around ideas life cannot be self contained to occupying space now.

It takes a village to raise each great great grandchild to die saving humanity first.

Come hell or high water.

BuckNaked » 02 Aug 2023, 10:57 am » wrote: ↑

02 Aug 2023, 10:57 am

https://www.cnn.com/2023/08/02/politics ... index.html

if that were the case, everyone on the hill would be jailed...

RebelGator » 03 Aug 2023, 3:47 pm » wrote: ↑

03 Aug 2023, 3:47 pm

Call a doctor, you sound  like you're having a stroke.

 

DeezerShoove » 03 Aug 2023, 4:26 pm » wrote: ↑

03 Aug 2023, 4:26 pm

Way less "activity" than ANY of those demonstrations...
I mean, peaceful protests.

Hardly any burning buildings and serene beatings...

An insurrection without weapons against the largest military in the hemisphere? Probably the world...
Get real, partisan.

 
 

GHETTOBLASTER » 03 Aug 2023, 6:10 pm » wrote: ↑

03 Aug 2023, 6:10 pm

Oh yeah...everyone knows that's how the Marines took Iwo Jima..they used a flag  pole...!

 

jerrab
if he used the lie to get money /donations that is illegal, if he said to  defame someone, something that is illegal, and he used it to cause the insurrection.

 reading that reply of yours....somehow you made it sound like you were crying when you wrote it....kind of creepy how you can do that

Squatchman » 04 Aug 2023, 3:32 am » wrote: ↑

04 Aug 2023, 3:32 am

  And those dummy electors will get to face hard time from Michigan at least. They've been caught dead to rights.
 Being in age from 55 to 82 I'm going out on a limb and say they're going to sing loud and long to save their sorry asses.
Michigan has also charged 3 people with **** with voting machines. Seems some trump supporters stole some and tried to make them look corrupt.

So you can show us the STATE LAW that prohibits an ALTERNATIVE SLATE OF ELECTORS and makes it a CRIME???

Seeing how the US CONSTITUTION controls ELECTORS and the LEGISLATOR can determine WHICH SLATE TO SEND to CONGRESS for counting. NO WHERE is there a FEDERAL CRIME should that to happen, *******!!

Add to that, there is NO CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHT for you to even VOTE for President. The fact is, a State legislature can TOSS YOUR VOTE, appoint a slate of electors to vote for President, and send THAT slate to Congress to be counted.

Sucks you are so **** STUPID you have NO CLUE on the FACTS on how you elect our President.
 

Legislatively they have made almost everything is a crime in one way or another....every person who reads this is guilty of breaking some law on the currently books....if they want you they can find the way to get at you...taking down your life, family, financial security, reputation....everything.
 

golfboy » 03 Aug 2023, 9:43 pm » wrote: ↑

03 Aug 2023, 9:43 pm

That's weird because I saw his tweets that day.
But liberals didn't want anyone to see/hear that. 

the tweets are still there

BuckNaked » 02 Aug 2023, 11:16 am » wrote: ↑

02 Aug 2023, 11:16 am

Adam schiff with a beard lol

If lying or hyping gets you arrested then Adam Schiff should be in chains...along with most of his party. Remember when Hillary claimed Trump colluded with Russia. Why isn't Jack Smith indicting her? 

BTW...now we know why many leftists have left this forum...cause they're in jail for lying and they don't have WiFi.     
 

Beekeeper » 04 Aug 2023, 6:39 am » wrote: ↑

04 Aug 2023, 6:39 am

So you can show us the STATE LAW that prohibits an ALTERNATIVE SLATE OF ELECTORS and makes it a CRIME???

Seeing how the US CONSTITUTION controls ELECTORS and the LEGISLATOR can determine WHICH SLATE TO SEND to CONGRESS for counting. NO WHERE is there a FEDERAL CRIME should that to happen, *******!!

Add to that, there is NO CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHT for you to even VOTE for President. The fact is, a State legislature can TOSS YOUR VOTE, appoint a slate of electors to vote for President, and send THAT slate to Congress to be counted.

Sucks you are so **** STUPID you have NO CLUE on the FACTS on how you elect our President.

See how very dangerous Trump is to democracy?

I’ve known about the theories of our second President John Adams for fifty years.

If you read  the constitution with an elitist, fascist, mind then when Adams was President you can:

1.  At the time the state legislators picked Senators.

2.  The states  still have the control over conducting elections

3.   Adams reasoned that an elite, much like in Plato’s Republic, all of the same patrician  interests, would limit the vote to themselves, not only in the legislature but in general elections.  The legislators they elected would also elect the slate of electors.

Adams denied he’d preached that, but most of his contemporaries claimed he did.

240 years of actual practice is America is NOT a patrician Republic but a universal democracy for citizens over 18.

And we should lock up Trump where the sun never shines for crimes against democracy