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Yep the electricity is out again just like it always is when we get a little weather. There's not much wind or anything, just a nice summer thunder storm.

Lots of rain though so the basement could flood without the sump pump. If the water starts coming up I'll fire up the gas powered generator. Good thing it isn't cold.

Thanks to a gas stove we'll still get diner. It's also a good thing I don't need to be charging an electric car. Just put gas in the truck so I'm not stranded.

**** Joe Biden!

 

michaelf » 05 Aug 2023, 6:10 pm » wrote: ↑

05 Aug 2023, 6:10 pm

Yep the electricity is out again just like it always is when we get a little weather. There's not much wind or anything, just a nice summer thunder storm.

Lots of rain though so the basement could flood without the sump pump. If the water starts coming up I'll fire up the gas powered generator. Good thing it isn't cold.

Thanks to a gas stove we'll still get diner. It's also a good thing I don't need to be charging an electric car. Just put gas in the truck so I'm not stranded.

**** Joe Biden!

Uncle Joe won’t require your kids to buy electric cars.

Your kids will not want a gas car.

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TESLA 

We recommend charging where you park to meet most of your charging needs.
 Wall ConnectorA Tesla Wall Connector offers the fastest charging speed for your home or office, adding up to 44 miles of range per hour charged. You can order a Wall Connector online and have it installed by a Tesla Certified electrician.
 Mobile Connectors and AdaptersIf you don't want to install a Wall Connector, you can purchase a Mobile Connector and plug into a standard three-prong, 120 volt outlet. A 120 volt outlet will supply 2 to 3 miles of range per hour charged. If you charge overnight and drive less than 30 to 40 miles per day, this option should meet your typical charging needs. 
 You can also purchase an adapter bundle and charge with other outlet types, including a 240 volt outlet.

Commonly used in homes to power larger appliances, a 240 volt outlet will supply up to 30 miles of range per hour charged.
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I can’t imagine any brand new home today being built without a Tesla adapter.

44 miles per hour charge rate, means even in twenty years when electrics might go a thousand miles per charge instead of three hundred, a charged up EV can be driven a thousand miles to grandpa and grandma’s house and Gramps can charge up the buggy in 24 hours, for $30.

Will you charge your kids $30 to see the grandchildren?

Why your kids will not have your sorry gas car if you died and they got it free, is that it has a gas engine, a transmission, and it drinks $3.50 gasoline, plus it’s as slow as a crippled mule compared to electrics

Electrics go 0-60 in three something seconds, operate on three cents a mile, and there’s no gas engine or transmission to ever service or wear out.

Plus did you know you can plug one into your house if the grid goes down and juice your house?  It needs bidirectional charging 

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Tesla has been wary of bi-directional charging, but now it says that will be in its new cars in two years, integrated into the company's Powerwall battery backup. 
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Look at the cool Powerwall they have out today.


https://www.tesla.com/powerwall

Your gas stove will last a hundred years.

I own the propane gas stove my Daddy bought for my Mama when they got married in 1947.

I guess it would still work, but my mother replaced it with an electric about 35 years ago and it’s sat in a room on the smokehouse ever since.

My tenants would **** if I took away their new electric stoves but someday, somebody might want that old gas Constellation stove, you know?



 

Bruce » 05 Aug 2023, 6:43 pm » wrote: ↑

05 Aug 2023, 6:43 pm

Uncle Joe won’t require your kids to buy electric cars.

Your kids will not want a gas car.

—-
TESLA 

We recommend charging where you park to meet most of your charging needs.
 Wall ConnectorA Tesla Wall Connector offers the fastest charging speed for your home or office, adding up to 44 miles of range per hour charged. You can order a Wall Connector online and have it installed by a Tesla Certified electrician.
 Mobile Connectors and AdaptersIf you don't want to install a Wall Connector, you can purchase a Mobile Connector and plug into a standard three-prong, 120 volt outlet. A 120 volt outlet will supply 2 to 3 miles of range per hour charged. If you charge overnight and drive less than 30 to 40 miles per day, this option should meet your typical charging needs. 
 You can also purchase an adapter bundle and charge with other outlet types, including a 240 volt outlet.

Commonly used in homes to power larger appliances, a 240 volt outlet will supply up to 30 miles of range per hour charged.
—-

I can’t imagine any brand new home today being built without a Tesla adapter.

44 miles per hour charge rate, means even in twenty years when electrics might go a thousand miles per charge instead of three hundred, a charged up EV can be driven a thousand miles to grandpa and grandma’s house and Gramps can charge up the buggy in 24 hours, for $30.

Will you charge your kids $30 to see the grandchildren?

Why your kids will not have your sorry gas car if you died and they got it free, is that it has a gas engine, a transmission, and it drinks $3.50 gasoline, plus it’s as slow as a crippled mule compared to electrics

Electrics go 0-60 in three something seconds, operate on three cents a mile, and there’s no gas engine or transmission to ever service or wear out.

Plus did you know you can plug one into your house if the grid goes down and juice your house?  It needs bidirectional charging 

—-

Tesla has been wary of bi-directional charging, but now it says that will be in its new cars in two years, integrated into the company's Powerwall battery backup. 
—-
 
Look at the cool Powerwall they have out today.

https://www.tesla.com/powerwall

Your gas stove will last a hundred years.

I own the propane gas stove my Daddy bought for my Mama when they got married in 1947.

I guess it would still work, but my mother replaced it with an electric about 35 years ago and it’s sat in a room on the smokehouse ever since.

My tenants would **** if I took away their new electric stoves but someday, somebody might want that old gas Constellation stove, you know?

2 to 3 miles of range per hour of charge? The night isn't long enough to get me to work and home again...especially when the power is out like right now.

Never mind what happens when I get a call and have to make a second trip. I'll need a time machine to make it work.
 

You better get em while you can

 michaelf
2 to 3 miles of range per hour of charge? The night isn't long enough to get me to work and home again...especially when the power is out like right now.

Never mind what happens when I get a call and have to make a second trip. I'll need a time machine to make it work.

God **** Damnit.

You spend $33,000 for a Tesla and you are such a miser you don’t pay a few hundred to install the 44 miles per hour charge plug?

I notice a 220 volt plug only does 30 miles charge an hour.

But if you just plug the bastard into the wall you can easily charge up 30 miles per night.

I’m older than 50 amp trailer plugs.  I had one installed at my farm in case I have guests with new travel trailers. I was having the milk barn re wired and it wasn’t fifty bucks extra.

You won’t want a new gas car in ten years.

They run on three or four cents a mile.

In ten years every new one will plug into your Tesla outlets in your garage or on the street, and they’ll keep your lights on automatically if your power goes off.



It took George Bush almost twenty years to finally outlaw the standard 40 watt incandescent light bulb by regulation.  The new ones give out 100 watts of light and use nearly three times less juice and last seven years and cost less than two dollars each.




 
 
You don’t want a piece of **** 40 watt light bulb.

 

Bruce » 05 Aug 2023, 7:44 pm » wrote: ↑

05 Aug 2023, 7:44 pm

God **** Damnit.

You spend $33,000 for a Tesla and you are such a miser you don’t pay a few hundred to install the 44 miles per hour charge plug?

I notice a 220 volt plug only does 30 miles charge an hour.

But if you just plug the bastard into the wall you can easily charge up 30 miles per night.

I’m older than 50 amp trailer plugs.  I had one installed at my farm in case I have guests with new travel trailers. I was having the milk barn re wired and it wasn’t fifty bucks extra.

You won’t want a new gas car in ten years.

They run on three or four cents a mile.

In ten years every new one will plug into your Tesla outlets in your garage or on the street, and they’ll keep your lights on automatically if your power goes off.

It took George Bush almost twenty years to finally outlaw the standard 40 watt incandescent light bulb by regulation.  The new ones give out 100 watts of light and use nearly three times less juice and last seven years and cost less than two dollars each.

 
 
You don’t want a piece of **** 40 watt light bulb.

I won't be buying a $33k vehicle of any kind and no charge plug can help when the power is out...like now.

But I may not be able to argue it much longer unless I fire up a gas engine to charge a phone. 

michaelf » 05 Aug 2023, 8:34 pm » wrote: ↑

05 Aug 2023, 8:34 pm

I won't be buying a $33k vehicle of any kind and no charge plug can help when the power is out...like now.

But I may not be able to argue it much longer unless I fire up a gas engine to charge a phone.

Your gas generators will all have Tesla plugs too, so you can plug them into your house when the power fails.

And you’ll have your pick of used gasoline car trade ins all over the used car lots.

If you rent, when you move out your landlord will install a Tesla plug when he paints all the walls.

Chrysler claims in five more years every Chrysler and Dodge will be electric.  I have to think that gas Jeeps will last longer, we’ll see.

It costs the car makers at least half the cost of the car to make a gas engine and a transmission.  And in about 13 years when the transmission slips the car is driven on the truck that hauls it away.

Electric cars don’t have gas engines and no transmissions.  They use an electric motor on one or two or four axles.

Those electric motors will run almost until Christ comes.

And rebuilding an electric motor is ridiculously cheap.

Your grandkids will ask you what a gas car was like.

 
 

I came from the Ford Mustang, Pontiac GTO, Dodge Charger, Camaro generation. ....

I am happy I will not be around for the ev generation ...

NEILCAR » 05 Aug 2023, 9:04 pm » wrote: ↑

05 Aug 2023, 9:04 pm

I came from the Ford Mustang, Pontiac GTO, Dodge Charger, Camaro generation. ....

I am happy I will not be around for the ev generation ...

A really cheap electric does 0-60 in maybe four seconds.

A good one does 0-60 in three.

Electrics are screaming, stupid fast.

The reason is a 400 horsepower electric motor has 2,500 foot pounds of toque from zero RPMs

And a cheap electric only has 400 horsepower.  The good ones are 1,000 horsepower, and that is today, not in ten years.

 Tonight a Tesla Model Y is the largest selling passenger car in the entire world, having beat out the Toyota Corolla.

Tesla makes almost two million units a year.

Musk will likely become the richest man that has ever lived, the first man worth one trillion dollars.
 

NEILCAR » 05 Aug 2023, 9:04 pm » wrote: ↑

05 Aug 2023, 9:04 pm

I came from the Ford Mustang, Pontiac GTO, Dodge Charger, Camaro generation. ....

I am happy I will not be around for the ev generation ...

what about Oldsmobile?

michaelf » 05 Aug 2023, 6:10 pm » wrote: ↑

05 Aug 2023, 6:10 pm

Yep the electricity is out again just like it always is when we get a little weather. There's not much wind or anything, just a nice summer thunder storm.

Lots of rain though so the basement could flood without the sump pump. If the water starts coming up I'll fire up the gas powered generator. Good thing it isn't cold.

Thanks to a gas stove we'll still get diner. It's also a good thing I don't need to be charging an electric car. Just put gas in the truck so I'm not stranded.

**** Joe Biden!

But but...Joe Biden IS a gas powered appliance.