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Majik » 24 Aug 2023, 3:13 pm » wrote: ↑

24 Aug 2023, 3:13 pm

I have to disagree...
Is it conservative ideology ? ......Or Republican Establishment Elitist Ideology that allows it .....
If this was 10 years ago ...I would have agreed with him ....
In the last 10 years I think a lot of conservatives have had their eyes opened and no longer see the Republican party representing their values or their views and see it as being as corrupt as The Dems.
I know I am one of those conservatives.

Our political system at the highest levels is in fact a corrupt  uni-party trying to play both ends of the political spectrum to keep Americans infighting while raping America for their own gain while protecting the very establishment that they designed (DC) ....to allow this corruption to go on unabated indefinitely.

So we are now engaged in an argument of nomenclature - leaving the issue cold and lonely. 

Your standard issue republicans - call them whatever the **** you want - consider the "rights" of corporations deserving of religious reverence. And that is what got us here. And that is what keeps us here. And that is low IQ white trash's claim.

Plenty of now-Trumpers on this board defended citizens united like their **** lives were on the line - called me a commie for being against it.
 
 
 

Cannonpointer » 24 Aug 2023, 5:12 pm » wrote: ↑

24 Aug 2023, 5:12 pm

So we are now engaged in an argument of nomenclature - leaving the issue cold and lonely. 

Your standard issue republicans - call them whatever the **** you want - consider the "rights" of corporations deserving of religious reverence. And that is what got us here. And that is what keeps us here. And that is low IQ white trash's claim.

Plenty of now-Trumpers on this board defended citizens united like their **** lives were on the line - called me a commie for being against it.

No, we are not engaged in an argument of nomenclature. ....
I was just stating that there is a genuine awakening among many Conservatives regarding the corruption of DC and both political parties which is why The MAGA movement is still around and keeps growing .....

Now I can't speak for those now-Trumpers whom defended the Citizen's United  Supreme court  decision  which now in hindsight because of what dark money has done to undermining our political system should all feel like fools for doing so ....
I saw it for what it was/is ....
A way for The Wealthy and Corporations as well as foreign money to influence elections with dark money that has  no restrictions or oversight.
Which is a disastrous  recipe for  the erosion of free and fair elections which was highlighted by the dark money surrounding the rigged election of 2020.




 

Majik » 25 Aug 2023, 12:47 pm » wrote: ↑

25 Aug 2023, 12:47 pm

No, we are not engaged in an argument of nomenclature. ....
I was just stating that there is a genuine awakening among many Conservatives regarding the corruption of DC and both political parties which is why The MAGA movement is still around and keeps growing .....

Now I can't speak for those now-Trumpers whom defended the Citizen's United  Supreme court  decision  which now in hindsight because of what dark money has done to undermining our political system should all feel like fools for doing so ....
I saw it for what it was/is ....
A way for The Wealthy and Corporations as well as foreign money to influence elections with dark money that has  no restrictions or oversight.
Which is a disastrous  recipe for  the erosion of free and fair elections which was highlighted by the dark money surrounding the rigged election of 2020.

Well, sir, for my money, that means low IQ's critique does not apply to YOU - not that it does not apply.

I just spent 15 minutes with the head of the marshal's service in a town in texas, arguing why it was a crime for his deputies to force a citizen out of a school board meeting for the "disruption" of reading to the board from its own school books. As I instructed the fellow, these school board meetings are mandated by law to afford citizens their right to petition their government for redress of grievances.  His officers committed a crime against the man, violating his first amendment rights under color of law. 

For my money, all politics is local. We fight them at the local level - whether we are local to that area or not. 
 

Cannonpointer » 25 Aug 2023, 1:01 pm » wrote: ↑

25 Aug 2023, 1:01 pm

Well, sir, for my money, that means low IQ's critique does not apply to YOU - not that it does not apply.

I just spent 15 minutes with the head of the marshal's service in a town in texas, arguing why it was a crime for his deputies to force a citizen out of a school board meeting for the "disruption" of reading to the board from its own school books. As I instructed the fellow, these school board meetings are mandated by law to afford citizens their right to petition their government for redress of grievances.  His officers committed a crime against the man, violating his first amendment rights under color of law. 

For my money, all politics is local. We fight them at the local level - whether we are local to that area or not.

How did he respond to you scolding him with the truth ....?
And I'M sure you are well aware of how Dark money is now being used at the local level by non-profits and activists to influence chaos at the local level whether they live there or not ....
It's how The Dems rigged the election according to Biden.....“We have put together, I think, the most extensive and inclusive voter fraud organization in the history of American politics,”