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"As Ohio goes, so goes the country."
Since 1896, the Buckeye state has picked the commander-in-chief 28 out of 30 times – a frequency unmatched by any other state in the union.

We had a single issue of the ballot yesterday. Republicans tried to make it difficult to put abortion rights into Ohio's constitution. They were handed their asses. Keep trying to interfere with a woman's right to family planning. It will be your demise. You have been warned.

Ohio Vote Is Another Warning to GOP on Abortion (msn.com)

Even in red-leaning states, support for abortion rights is again proving to be a potent electoral force.That was the message of Tuesday’s vote in Ohio, where voters rejected a ballot measure that would have made it harder to add abortion rights to the state’s constitution.The victory for abortion-rights groups, which follows similar wins in Kansas and Michigan, is likely to encourage abortion-rights advocates to put the issue on ballots in more states next year and beyond. Such moves could boost Democratic turnout at a time when many party leaders are worried about low enthusiasm for re-electing President Biden because of his age and weak job-approval ratings.
Republicans likely will have to continue grappling with how much to respond to their conservative base on the issue given that efforts to restrict abortion appear to alienate many moderate and independent voters, particularly in the suburbs.
Kimberly Inez McGuire, executive director of URGE, an abortion-rights group, said Issue 1 was “a cynical attempt to sabotage the power of the people to secure abortion access and they failed.” Abortion-rights groups have prevailed in six ballot measures since the overturning of Roe v. Wade last June.
In a warning sign for Republicans nationally, the Ohio results signaled that support for abortion rights can drive voter turnout. The defeat of Issue 1, by a landslide 14 percentage points, came as more than 3 million voters cast ballots. It was a large turnout for a summertime, off-year election, and substantially higher than the state’s most recent primary election, in May 2022.
Polling across the country show strong support for abortion rights. Opponents of the procedure said that in the lead-up to the November vote that their stance is firm.
"We are prepared to die on this hill."
They just might. 
 

Punch » 09 Aug 2023, 8:08 pm » wrote: ↑

09 Aug 2023, 8:08 pm

"As Ohio goes, so goes the country."
Since 1896, the Buckeye state has picked the commander-in-chief 28 out of 30 times – a frequency unmatched by any other state in the union.

We had a single issue of the ballot yesterday. Republicans tried to make it difficult to put abortion rights into Ohio's constitution. They were handed their asses. Keep trying to interfere with a woman's right to family planning. It will be your demise. You have been warned.

Ohio Vote Is Another Warning to GOP on Abortion (msn.com)

Even in red-leaning states, support for abortion rights is again proving to be a potent electoral force.That was the message of Tuesday’s vote in Ohio, where voters rejected a ballot measure that would have made it harder to add abortion rights to the state’s constitution.The victory for abortion-rights groups, which follows similar wins in Kansas and Michigan, is likely to encourage abortion-rights advocates to put the issue on ballots in more states next year and beyond. Such moves could boost Democratic turnout at a time when many party leaders are worried about low enthusiasm for re-electing President Biden because of his age and weak job-approval ratings.
Republicans likely will have to continue grappling with how much to respond to their conservative base on the issue given that efforts to restrict abortion appear to alienate many moderate and independent voters, particularly in the suburbs.
Kimberly Inez McGuire, executive director of URGE, an abortion-rights group, said Issue 1 was “a cynical attempt to sabotage the power of the people to secure abortion access and they failed.” Abortion-rights groups have prevailed in six ballot measures since the overturning of Roe v. Wade last June.
In a warning sign for Republicans nationally, the Ohio results signaled that support for abortion rights can drive voter turnout. The defeat of Issue 1, by a landslide 14 percentage points, came as more than 3 million voters cast ballots. It was a large turnout for a summertime, off-year election, and substantially higher than the state’s most recent primary election, in May 2022.
Polling across the country show strong support for abortion rights. Opponents of the procedure said that in the lead-up to the November vote that their stance is firm.
"We are prepared to die on this hill."
They just might.

that only works with single issue voters....mostly progressive democrat and GOP rino types....to the vast vast majority of people getting to kill a baby is way down on the list of things to do....but....when it come to killing babies and wanting to sell the parts or raping the ones you don't kill you definitely have that vote

Biden has murdered 400,000 Ukies.

Pretty sick as well.

nefarious101 » 09 Aug 2023, 8:18 pm » wrote: ↑

09 Aug 2023, 8:18 pm

that only works with single issue voters....mostly progressive democrat and GOP rino types....to the vast vast majority of people getting to kill a baby is way down on the list of things to do....but....when it come to killing babies and wanting to sell the parts or raping the ones you don't kill you definitely have that vote

The organized anti abortion movement did not exist before Roe vs Wade.

It was the eighties before I ever heard the term “Pro Life”

So for years and years all the Republicans would stand up and swear off baby murdering to the roar of the peanut gallery.  It sounded good, to campaign to outlaw abortions,  and there was zero chance it could happen.

A perfect political scam. 

Then, oh ****, it happened.!

Every fertile woman in this country who liked to **** men took a very dim view of her own rights being taken away.

This was predictable.

People are selfish.

Bruce » 09 Aug 2023, 8:51 pm » wrote: ↑

09 Aug 2023, 8:51 pm

The organized anti abortion movement did not exist before Roe vs Wade.

It was the eighties before I ever heard the term “Pro Life”

So for years and years all the Republicans would stand up and swear off baby murdering to the roar of the peanut gallery.  It sounded good, to campaign to outlaw abortions,  and there was zero chance it could happen.

A perfect political scam. 

Then, oh ****, it happened.!

Every fertile woman in this country who liked to **** men took a very dim view of her own rights being taken away.

This was predictable.

People are selfish.

you need to quit obsessing over killing babies....there are other things to do and think about....it's creepy how preoccupied you are with killing babies...you're a progressive and most likely a *** or worse....babies aren't even in your lane 

nefarious101 » 10 Aug 2023, 7:18 am » wrote: ↑

10 Aug 2023, 7:18 am

you need to quit obsessing over killing babies....there are other things to do and think about....it's creepy how preoccupied you are with killing babies...you're a progressive and most likely a *** or worse....babies aren't even in your lane

My baby making days are done and gone.

But would you look at all those younger women out there that like to **** men how insanely pissed off they are about abortion?

Frigid women don’t worry about abortion.

Really ugly women and I mean so ugly they can’t find a man at closing time, don’t worry about abortions.

But the ones that can find a man, they worry.

And you’d better bet they make that man worry about it, too, or he sleeps by himself.

 

nefarious101 » 10 Aug 2023, 7:18 am » wrote: ↑

10 Aug 2023, 7:18 am

you need to quit obsessing over killing babies....there are other things to do and think about....it's creepy how preoccupied you are with killing babies...you're a progressive and most likely a *** or worse....babies aren't even in your lane

That men and older women (people who can't get pregnant) who go **** over abortion pro or con used to confuse me.

Some women complain about that very thing:
Not your business. You aren't a woman capable of being pregnant. Shut up about it.

But isn't it also about basically ceding control to a third party?
That's why every citizen can be a part of the discussion. Our government is out of control.

Giving bureaucrats an inch, letting the camel's nose under the tent, better him than me...
Boom! New laws, regs, taxes pop up because we have a "There oughta be a law" attitude.

Provide for the common welfare.    <-- I just made that up.

Allowing people to do whatever they want is scary sometimes because the line gets blurred as to when it is intruding on others. We must guard against "Exploitation of the Innocents".
So, an abortion is just about the most personal thing a woman can go through. I get that.
But governmental creep is also a very real phenomenon. I hope everyone gets that, too.
 
 
 

DeezerShoove » 10 Aug 2023, 7:59 am » wrote: ↑

10 Aug 2023, 7:59 am

Men and older women (people who can't get pregnant) who go **** over abortion pro or con used to confuse me.

Some women complain about that very thing:
Not your business. You aren't a woman capable of being pregnant. Shut up about it.

But isn't it also about basically ceding control to a third party?
That's why every citizen can be a part of the discussion. Our government is out of control.

Giving bureaucrats an inch, letting the camel's nose under the tent, better him than me...
Boom! New laws, regs, taxes pop up because we have a "There oughta be a law" attitude.

Provide for the common welfare.    <-- I just made that up.

Allowing people to do whatever they want is scary sometimes because the line gets blurred as to when it is intruding on others. We must guard against "Exploitation of the Innocents".
So, an abortion is just about the most personal thing a woman can go through. I get that.
But governmental creep is also a very real phenomenon. I hope everyone gets that, too.

Those young women who will spread their legs and like to seem to not be very philosophical about why they can’t get the same abortions their grandmothers could.

They blame Republicans, all Republicans, top to bottom they blame Republicans.

There was only one woman who ever had a virgin birth and she watched her boy crucified.

As for all the the other Mamas, when Mama ain’t happy ain’t nobody around her is gonna be happy.
 

Bruce » 10 Aug 2023, 8:05 am » wrote: ↑

10 Aug 2023, 8:05 am

Those young women who will spread their legs and like to seem to not be very philosophical about why they can’t get the same abortions their grandmothers could.

They blame Republicans, all Republicans, top to bottom they blame Republicans.

There was only one woman who ever had a virgin birth and she watched her boy crucified.

As for all the the other Mamas, when Mama ain’t happy ain’t nobody around her is gonna be happy.

I expect nothing from you but...

There are women that, post-abortion, are devastated by the weight of this decision.
-and-
There are women that act like they just dropped some weight at the pool.



One type I care about deeply.
One type can kiss my ***.
What "law" suits both?

Punch » 09 Aug 2023, 8:08 pm » wrote: ↑

09 Aug 2023, 8:08 pm

"As Ohio goes, so goes the country."
Since 1896, the Buckeye state has picked the commander-in-chief 28 out of 30 times – a frequency unmatched by any other state in the union.

We had a single issue of the ballot yesterday. Republicans tried to make it difficult to put abortion rights into Ohio's constitution. They were handed their asses. Keep trying to interfere with a woman's right to family planning. It will be your demise. You have been warned.

Ohio Vote Is Another Warning to GOP on Abortion (msn.com)

Even in red-leaning states, support for abortion rights is again proving to be a potent electoral force.That was the message of Tuesday’s vote in Ohio, where voters rejected a ballot measure that would have made it harder to add abortion rights to the state’s constitution.The victory for abortion-rights groups, which follows similar wins in Kansas and Michigan, is likely to encourage abortion-rights advocates to put the issue on ballots in more states next year and beyond. Such moves could boost Democratic turnout at a time when many party leaders are worried about low enthusiasm for re-electing President Biden because of his age and weak job-approval ratings.
Republicans likely will have to continue grappling with how much to respond to their conservative base on the issue given that efforts to restrict abortion appear to alienate many moderate and independent voters, particularly in the suburbs.
Kimberly Inez McGuire, executive director of URGE, an abortion-rights group, said Issue 1 was “a cynical attempt to sabotage the power of the people to secure abortion access and they failed.” Abortion-rights groups have prevailed in six ballot measures since the overturning of Roe v. Wade last June.
In a warning sign for Republicans nationally, the Ohio results signaled that support for abortion rights can drive voter turnout. The defeat of Issue 1, by a landslide 14 percentage points, came as more than 3 million voters cast ballots. It was a large turnout for a summertime, off-year election, and substantially higher than the state’s most recent primary election, in May 2022.
Polling across the country show strong support for abortion rights. Opponents of the procedure said that in the lead-up to the November vote that their stance is firm.
"We are prepared to die on this hill."
They just might.

SPIN IT ****!!

The BALLOT MEASURE was to determine if it took a 60% THRESHOLD to amend the CONSTITUTION OF OHIO.

It has NOTHING to do with "abortion rights" since that hasn't come up for ANY VOTE OF ANY KIND!!

Funny how you **** MORONS love to turn a sows ear into a silk purse and ALWAYS FAIL!!

GET SOME FACTS AGAIN, **** and then get back to us. Your SPIN is hilarious.

Barbecuing Jews would still pass a popular vote in Ukraine and other eastern European countries. Popular vote is two wolves and a sheep voting on what is for dinner.

DeezerShoove » 10 Aug 2023, 8:11 am » wrote: ↑

10 Aug 2023, 8:11 am

I expect nothing from you but...

There are women that, post-abortion, are devastated by the weight of this decision.
-and-
There are women that act like they just dropped some weight at the pool.

One type I care about deeply.
One type can kiss my ***.
What "law" suits both?

You know, those women who have a healthy, normal, natural lust for men seem to have long ago figured out the typical Republican is going to tell her to go **** herself if she wants the right to an abortion.

They aren’t going to **** themselves.

Nor any Republicans either.


 The hand that rocks the cradle rules the world, it’s been said.

Because she’s sitting on what all the fathers want.
 

Bruce » 10 Aug 2023, 9:05 am » wrote: ↑

10 Aug 2023, 9:05 am

You know, those women who have a healthy, normal, natural lust for men seem to have long ago figured out the typical Republican is going to tell her to go **** herself if she wants the right to an abortion.

They aren’t going to **** themselves.

Nor any Republicans either.

 The hand that rocks the cradle rules the world, it’s been said.

Because she’s sitting on what all the fathers want.

I just got what I expected. Reliably vacuous.

Yes true republicans come OUT to vote and support the Right To Choose and men should also support the right to choose absolutely. Once DNA points the finger at the Father grab your wallets. Child support and alimony will
make one very angry UNLESS the father steps up and helps provide because the father wants to.

To me it is not so much about abortion as it is about the right to choose = BIG BIG GOVERNMENT IS NOT WELCOME ON THIS TURF.

The turnout stunned the right wing nuts and right wing fundamentalists ........ I say put the right to choose on the ballot and make it a law regardless.

THEN never vote for a republican ever again .........
 

Bruce » 10 Aug 2023, 9:05 am » wrote: ↑

10 Aug 2023, 9:05 am

You know, those women who have a healthy, normal, natural lust for men seem to have long ago figured out the typical Republican is going to tell her to go **** herself if she wants the right to an abortion.

They aren’t going to **** themselves.

Nor any Republicans either.

 The hand that rocks the cradle rules the world, it’s been said.

Because she’s sitting on what all the fathers want.

Why do you hate Jesus Christ?

Neo » 10 Aug 2023, 8:57 am » wrote: ↑

10 Aug 2023, 8:57 am

Barbecuing Jews would still pass a popular vote in Ukraine and other eastern European countries. Popular vote is two wolves and a sheep voting on what is for dinner.

But when referenda are voted on at the same time that the citizenry votes for their elected officials, the high-drama wedge issues represented on the referendum ballot bring out voters who will vote for politicians who share their positions.  

When Roe was the law of the land, and was the proverbial car that the GOP dog was chasing, Referenda that sought to restrict abortion brought out the GOP anti-abortion base and was a great fundraising tool.  Now that the car has been caught, and Hobbs is now the standard, the tables have been turned.

Methinks, if the GOP power players had their druthers, Roe would still be the law of the land and they would still be railing against it and whipping up the enthusiasm of THEIR base because of it.

razoo » 10 Aug 2023, 9:30 am » wrote: ↑

10 Aug 2023, 9:30 am

Yes true republicans come OUT to vote and support the Right To Choose and men should also support the right to choose absolutely. Once DNA points the finger at the Father grab your wallets. Child support and alimony will
make one very angry UNLESS the father steps up and helps provide because the father wants to.

To me it is not so much about abortion as it is about the right to choose = BIG BIG GOVERNMENT IS NOT WELCOME ON THIS TURF.

The turnout stunned the right wing nuts and right wing fundamentalists ........ I say put the right to choose on the ballot and make it a law regardless.

THEN never vote for a republican ever again .........

Enjoy your satanic worldview….and the short life that comes with it.

maineman » 10 Aug 2023, 9:57 am » wrote: ↑

10 Aug 2023, 9:57 am

When Roe was the law of the land
 

Since when does the judicial branch make law?

It was never the law. It was treated that way at the pleasure of the sick demonic Left and it’s tentacles.

Punch » 09 Aug 2023, 8:08 pm » wrote: ↑

09 Aug 2023, 8:08 pm

"As Ohio goes, so goes the country."
Since 1896, the Buckeye state has picked the commander-in-chief 28 out of 30 times – a frequency unmatched by any other state in the union.

We had a single issue of the ballot yesterday. Republicans tried to make it difficult to put abortion rights into Ohio's constitution. They were handed their asses. Keep trying to interfere with a woman's right to family planning. It will be your demise. You have been warned.

Ohio Vote Is Another Warning to GOP on Abortion (msn.com)

Even in red-leaning states, support for abortion rights is again proving to be a potent electoral force.That was the message of Tuesday’s vote in Ohio, where voters rejected a ballot measure that would have made it harder to add abortion rights to the state’s constitution.The victory for abortion-rights groups, which follows similar wins in Kansas and Michigan, is likely to encourage abortion-rights advocates to put the issue on ballots in more states next year and beyond. Such moves could boost Democratic turnout at a time when many party leaders are worried about low enthusiasm for re-electing President Biden because of his age and weak job-approval ratings.
Republicans likely will have to continue grappling with how much to respond to their conservative base on the issue given that efforts to restrict abortion appear to alienate many moderate and independent voters, particularly in the suburbs.
Kimberly Inez McGuire, executive director of URGE, an abortion-rights group, said Issue 1 was “a cynical attempt to sabotage the power of the people to secure abortion access and they failed.” Abortion-rights groups have prevailed in six ballot measures since the overturning of Roe v. Wade last June.
In a warning sign for Republicans nationally, the Ohio results signaled that support for abortion rights can drive voter turnout. The defeat of Issue 1, by a landslide 14 percentage points, came as more than 3 million voters cast ballots. It was a large turnout for a summertime, off-year election, and substantially higher than the state’s most recent primary election, in May 2022.
Polling across the country show strong support for abortion rights. Opponents of the procedure said that in the lead-up to the November vote that their stance is firm.
"We are prepared to die on this hill."
They just might.

A super majority of the dead babies were destined to be future Libtards...!!!    
 

Bruce » 10 Aug 2023, 7:45 am » wrote: ↑

10 Aug 2023, 7:45 am

My baby making days are done and gone.

But would you look at all those younger women out there that like to **** men how insanely pissed off they are about abortion?

Frigid women don’t worry about abortion.

Really ugly women and I mean so ugly they can’t find a man at closing time, don’t worry about abortions.

But the ones that can find a man, they worry.

And you’d better bet they make that man worry about it, too, or he sleeps by himself.

doesn't seem like your baby killing days are anywhere near over tho


Now you are going to tell me how women think....you must be one of those "Man in a dress" people