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this could be done by with a 1/4% tax on stock trading. simple. stocks are property. this is the simplest way of taxing stocks. yes!!!! congress would scream, NO!!!!!!!  more of you than members of congress.  so. recall the no people. cost of owning a home must be reduced. and poor areas need more school funding. by taxing stock trading, poor school districts would have the best schools in the world. your choice. i chose to clean up the slums of usa.

walkingstick » 16 Aug 2023, 2:25 pm » wrote: ↑

16 Aug 2023, 2:25 pm

this could be done by with a 1/4% tax on stock trading. simple. stocks are property. this is the simplest way of taxing stocks. yes!!!! congress would scream, NO!!!!!!!  more of you than members of congress.  so. recall the no people. cost of owning a home must be reduced. and poor areas need more school funding. by taxing stock trading, poor school districts would have the best schools in the world. your choice. i chose to clean up the slums of usa.

Read these two excerpts about how the Democrat stronghold of Metro Nashville/Davidson Co. Is allocating taxpayer dollars.

Schools in Nashville have an average ranking of 2/10, which is in the bottom 50% of Tennessee public schools. 

yet...

Tennessee Titans Stadium is an American football stadium that has been proposed for use by the Tennessee Titans to be constructed in Nashville, Tennessee and succeed Nissan Stadium beginning in 2026. The 60,000-seat stadium would cost $2.1 billion, $1.26 billion of which is subsidized by the public.

The new stadium was approved last week.

 

walkingstick » 16 Aug 2023, 2:25 pm » wrote: ↑

16 Aug 2023, 2:25 pm

this could be done by with a 1/4% tax on stock trading. simple. stocks are property. this is the simplest way of taxing stocks. yes!!!! congress would scream, NO!!!!!!!  more of you than members of congress.  so. recall the no people. cost of owning a home must be reduced. and poor areas need more school funding. by taxing stock trading, poor school districts would have the best schools in the world. your choice. i chose to clean up the slums of usa.

Lack of funding for schools, in poorer areas, aren't the root of the problem. The families there are fragmented and couldn't care less about school. Money isn't going to fix that. I worked in an inner-city school here in Vegas. The kids and parents do not give a **** about learning anything. They got a grant for Chromebooks, robotics kits, and high-end software. By the end of the year, about 40% of the Chromebooks were vandalized and broken, the pieces in the robotics kits were mostly used as objects to throw at each other, and hardly any of the students logged into the software. It's not the teachers either. They aren't paid nearly enough to babysit. It's 100% babysitting. To hell with those kinds of kids. They don't deserve a dime. 

Vegas » 16 Aug 2023, 2:33 pm » wrote: ↑

16 Aug 2023, 2:33 pm

Lack of funding for schools, in poorer areas, aren't the root of the problem. The families there are fragmented and couldn't care less about school. Money isn't going to fix that. I worked in an inner-city school here in Vegas. The kids and parents do not give a **** about learning anything. They got a grant for Chromebooks, robotics kits, and high-end software. By the end of the year, about 40% of the Chromebooks were vandalized and broken, the pieces in the robotics kits were mostly used as objects to throw at each other, and hardly any of the students logged into the software. It's not the teachers either. They aren't paid nearly enough to babysit. It's 100% babysitting. To hell with those kinds of kids. They don't deserve a dime.

you are right. we must all give up all hope for the future. i will buy a gun.

walkingstick » 16 Aug 2023, 2:25 pm » wrote: ↑

16 Aug 2023, 2:25 pm

this could be done by with a 1/4% tax on stock trading. simple. stocks are property. this is the simplest way of taxing stocks. yes!!!! congress would scream, NO!!!!!!!  more of you than members of congress.  so. recall the no people. cost of owning a home must be reduced. and poor areas need more school funding. by taxing stock trading, poor school districts would have the best schools in the world. your choice. i chose to clean up the slums of usa.

What about local control of school boards?

 And the barons of Wall Street control how many politicians compared to the people?
 

do it with the lottery!

hahahahahahaha, that works about like lead balloons.

walkingstick » 16 Aug 2023, 2:51 pm » wrote: ↑

16 Aug 2023, 2:51 pm

you are right. we must all give up all hope for the future. i will buy a gun.

      

Bruce » 16 Aug 2023, 2:53 pm » wrote: ↑

16 Aug 2023, 2:53 pm

What about local control of school boards?

 And the barons of Wall Street control how many politicians compared to the people?

Maybe we need Aff./Act. ??
Then the black football players can graduate
H.S.....w/o knowing how to read.                             

walkingstick » 16 Aug 2023, 2:51 pm » wrote: ↑

16 Aug 2023, 2:51 pm

you are right. we must all give up all hope for the future. i will buy a gun.

Only some of the future. There are millions of kids and families who value education and take it seriously. Most inner-city schools don't. They put the blame on lack of funding, but that's a convenient scapegoat. A lot of high schoolers, in the inner-city schools, still use their fingers to count. How much **** money do they need to learn basic math? 2 + 2 = 4. It takes millions of dollars to teach that? 

RedheadedStranger » 16 Aug 2023, 2:32 pm » wrote: ↑

16 Aug 2023, 2:32 pm

Read these two excerpts about how the Democrat stronghold of Metro Nashville/Davidson Co. Is allocating taxpayer dollars.

Schools in Nashville have an average ranking of 2/10, which is in the bottom 50% of Tennessee public schools. 

yet...

Tennessee Titans Stadium is an American football stadium that has been proposed for use by the Tennessee Titans to be constructed in Nashville, Tennessee and succeed Nissan Stadium beginning in 2026. The 60,000-seat stadium would cost $2.1 billion, $1.26 billion of which is subsidized by the public.

The new stadium was approved last week.

You're comparing apples and oranges.

Government funds that go toward stadiums is (almost always) generated by selling bonds and the funds necessary to retire that debt comes from two sources...a temporary additional sales tax of 1/2 cent that goes away when the bonds are retired and (in the case locally) the city's cut of any naming rights proceeds.  Locally, the City of Arlington contributed $135 million for a baseball stadium in the early 90's...sales tax revenue increase so much the bonds were retired 10 years ahead of schedule.  In 2006, the voters approved $350 million for AT&T Stadium (Jerry kicked in the other billion). We also approved $200 million for the new baseball stadium (AT&T stadium bonds were "refinanced" to put both stadiums in one debt) retirement of those bonds is currently ahead of schedule...even with the refinancing.  People don't like to admit it, but on a micro level, a professional sports venue can be a huge windfall for a city.

School funding comes from an entire different source.

But don't let facts get in your way...
 

ConsRule » 16 Aug 2023, 4:12 pm » wrote: ↑

16 Aug 2023, 4:12 pm

You're comparing apples and oranges.

Government funds that go toward stadiums is (almost always) generated by selling bonds and the funds necessary to retire that debt comes from two sources...a temporary additional sales tax of 1/2 cent that goes away when the bonds are retired and (in the case locally) the city's cut of any naming rights proceeds.  Locally, the City of Arlington contributed $135 million for a baseball stadium in the early 90's...sales tax revenue increase so much the bonds were retired 10 years ahead of schedule.  In 2006, the voters approved $350 million for AT&T Stadium (Jerry kicked in the other billion). We also approved $200 million for the new baseball stadium (AT&T stadium bonds were "refinanced" to put both stadiums in one debt) retirement of those bonds is currently ahead of schedule...even with the refinancing.  People don't like to admit it, but on a micro level, a professional sports venue can be a huge windfall for a city.

School funding comes from an entire different source.

But don't let facts get in your way...

I was merely pointing out where society's priorities are these days.

You have the kiddos using 40 to 50 year old public school buildings that are falling apart, but you can find a way to build your local pro football team (that can't even make the playoffs consistently) a brand spanking new enclosed stadium to play 8 home games a year in.


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walkingstick » 16 Aug 2023, 2:25 pm » wrote: ↑

16 Aug 2023, 2:25 pm

this could be done by with a 1/4% tax on stock trading. simple. stocks are property. this is the simplest way of taxing stocks. yes!!!! congress would scream, NO!!!!!!!  more of you than members of congress.  so. recall the no people. cost of owning a home must be reduced. and poor areas need more school funding. by taxing stock trading, poor school districts would have the best schools in the world. your choice. i chose to clean up the slums of usa.

What happens in the African American slums when they forget to pay the garbage bill...?

They stop delivering...!   

RedheadedStranger » 16 Aug 2023, 6:35 pm » wrote: ↑

16 Aug 2023, 6:35 pm

I was merely pointing out where society's priorities are these days.

You have the kiddos using 40 to 50 year old public school buildings that are falling apart, but you can find a way to build your local pro football team (that can't even make the playoffs consistently) a brand spanking new enclosed stadium to play 8 home games a year in.

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Then you're school district sucks at managing resources.  In our ISD, the oldest school is 15 years old and was remodeled during the summer of 2022.

I also didn't realize you were so incredibility short sighted.  AT&T stadium has had a Super Bowl, NBA All-Star Game, Men's NCAA Regional (twice), Final Four, huge concerts, 3-4 Soccer matches involving national teams from about a dozen different countries over time  (or English Premier League teams), high profile college football games, etc.  There is something going on in the stadium 200 days a year (average since it opened).

 

ConsRule » 16 Aug 2023, 7:43 pm » wrote: ↑

16 Aug 2023, 7:43 pm

Then you're school district sucks at managing resources.  In our ISD, the oldest school is 15 years old and was remodeled during the summer of 2022.

I also didn't realize you were so incredibility short sighted.  AT&T stadium has had a Super Bowl, NBA All-Star Game, Men's NCAA Regional (twice), Final Four, huge concerts, 3-4 Soccer matches involving national teams from about a dozen different countries over time  (or English Premier League teams), high profile college football games, etc.  There is something going on in the stadium 200 days a year (average since it opened).

Our school system is great, but then again I don't live (and wouldn't live) in Metro Nashville/Davidson Co either.

Our elementary system is a city managed special school district, and 7th through 12th is run by the county... and are some of the best public schools in the Country.

They do have concerts at Nissan Stadium, probably more in a year than Titan's home games actually, and the Good Guys car show every Summer, but that's about it.

The majority of the time it's dark and quiet.
 
 

what gives....people don't like to pay taxes for schools that no longer teach? Remember the "Majik Negro's inspirational words..."Paying taxes is patriotic"


What's the history of the Department of Education...when did it start?...who started it?....it's a proud American Institution right?

When did test scores start to plummet?...when was the problem corrected? Who is or was incharge of correcting it?


Do parent really have a right to be involved with their children's lives at all?


Should the realities of nature and science be allowed to interfere with public education's right to decide your child's gender without you knowing it?



so many questions....but still no answers...inquiring minds want to know

biggest destroyer of usa children is summer idle timer. /// join a street gang? space out on drugs? /// most schools are empty during summer time. /// develop new revenue streams to keep them open year around. /// fill the children's idle time with sports. crafts. planning their economic future. oh so many ways to manage the child's idle time. /// but no say the politicians. this would require us to think. (technology will increase future idle time of youth. no plan is the plan of politicians. what is your plan? go into the business of selling drugs to the children?)

after sleeping on the subject, my mind is now clear. if the student does not want to learn, or the teacher is unable to teach the child, or the school board is all screwed up, take the logical road. 'any child that does not want to learn, REMOVE IT FROM SCHOOL'. if a worker does not work. fire it. if a child does not want to learn, dismiss it. stop the child from getting in the way of children who want an education. yes. the average iq of san francisco children is the same as the average iq of the children of other cities. this points the finger at the school system in other cities, for making san franciso look bad. as you remove children from schools. you have more money for the politicians to take trips. this helps the airline business.

I do not have a problem with funding it through property taxes. Those income streams are far more stable than sales taxes or income taxes. In NV... the funding formula is a bizaare mix of property taxes, taxes on gaming wins/hotel rooms/alcohol, and federal grants. Very up and down being that the middle item is mainly funded by outsiders coming in and spending money in casinos.

walkingstick » 16 Aug 2023, 9:01 pm » wrote: ↑

16 Aug 2023, 9:01 pm

biggest destroyer of usa children is summer idle timer. /// join a street gang? space out on drugs? /// most schools are empty during summer time. /// develop new revenue streams to keep them open year around. /// fill the children's idle time with sports. crafts. planning their economic future. oh so many ways to manage the child's idle time. /// but no say the politicians. this would require us to think. (technology will increase future idle time of youth. no plan is the plan of politicians. what is your plan? go into the business of selling drugs to the children?)

children need idle time!!! politicians should butt out!!! let the child play at what ever it wants. today child are flooded with companies trying to control your child's mind and time. this must stop!!!! .  make it illegal !!! like illegal to sell alcohol to a child.  lock up facebook

ConsRule » 16 Aug 2023, 4:12 pm » wrote: ↑

16 Aug 2023, 4:12 pm

You're comparing apples and oranges.

Government funds that go toward stadiums is (almost always) generated by selling bonds and the funds necessary to retire that debt comes from two sources...a temporary additional sales tax of 1/2 cent that goes away when the bonds are retired and (in the case locally) the city's cut of any naming rights proceeds.  Locally, the City of Arlington contributed $135 million for a baseball stadium in the early 90's...sales tax revenue increase so much the bonds were retired 10 years ahead of schedule.  In 2006, the voters approved $350 million for AT&T Stadium (Jerry kicked in the other billion). We also approved $200 million for the new baseball stadium (AT&T stadium bonds were "refinanced" to put both stadiums in one debt) retirement of those bonds is currently ahead of schedule...even with the refinancing.  People don't like to admit it, but on a micro level, a professional sports venue can be a huge windfall for a city.

School funding comes from an entire different source.

But don't let facts get in your way...

Lol, it's amazing how quick sales tax can add up on $16 hotdogs.