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lower full social security to 60
lower full social security to 60
By walkingstick
16 Aug 2023 2:41 pm in No Holds Barred Political Forum
16 Aug 2023 2:41 pm
this would cause a ripple effect for full employment for people under 27 years old. fund the system by having a 50% inheritance on the market value of assets over 5 million dollars. plus. remove the cap on contribution. congress would scream NO!!!!! whose nation is this? yours or congress?
16 Aug 2023 3:25 pm
they are talking about raising it againwalkingstick » 16 Aug 2023, 2:41 pm » wrote: ↑ this would cause a ripple effect for full employment for people under 27 years old. fund the system by having a 50% inheritance on the market value of assets over 5 million dollars. plus. remove the cap on contribution. congress would scream NO!!!!! whose nation is this? yours or congress?
I had to wait until 67 and 4 months
they all want it gone
16 Aug 2023 4:16 pm
16 Aug 2023 5:26 pm
free **** that I paid for
16 Aug 2023 5:28 pm
Leave Social Security alone.walkingstick » 16 Aug 2023, 2:41 pm » wrote: ↑ this would cause a ripple effect for full employment for people under 27 years old. fund the system by having a 50% inheritance on the market value of assets over 5 million dollars. plus. remove the cap on contribution. congress would scream NO!!!!! whose nation is this? yours or congress?
It might be the only government program MAGAS like:
16 Aug 2023 5:35 pm
HOW ABOUT NOT GETTING DOUBLE TAXED ON SOCIAL SECURITY BENEFITS? FOR DECADES, RETIREES PAID INTO THE SYSTEM WITH TAX DOLLARS. THEN THEIR BENEFITS ARE TAXED AGAIN AFTER RETIREMENT.walkingstick » 16 Aug 2023, 2:41 pm » wrote: ↑ this would cause a ripple effect for full employment for people under 27 years old. fund the system by having a 50% inheritance on the market value of assets over 5 million dollars. plus. remove the cap on contribution. congress would scream NO!!!!! whose nation is this? yours or congress?
Webster Reintroduces Legislation to Eliminate Social Security Double-Tax - Press Releases - United States Congressman Daniel Webster (house.gov)
16 Aug 2023 9:14 pm
actual i support every usa citizen getting an equal amount of social security at age 65. worked or not. rich or homeless. healthy or handicapped. make it 3K a month. place a 2% national tax on everything. capital gains. stock trades. everything. eliminate payroll s.s. deductions. (unable to rip the system off, politicians would scream. NO!!!!!
16 Aug 2023 9:53 pm
you didn't have to! you elected to.Mrkelly » 16 Aug 2023, 3:25 pm » wrote: ↑ they are talking about raising it again
I had to wait until 67 and 4 months
they all want it gone
My full age was 66, but I chose 65.5 and got a few dollars less.
with that said, quit letting people that have never paid into it get SS benefits...except for spouses.
16 Aug 2023 10:19 pm
I want to make sure I understood you correctly..... Did you mean a 50% Inheritance TAX on assets over $5,000,000?....walkingstick » 16 Aug 2023, 2:41 pm » wrote: ↑ this would cause a ripple effect for full employment for people under 27 years old. fund the system by having a 50% inheritance on the market value of assets over 5 million dollars. plus. remove the cap on contribution. congress would scream NO!!!!! whose nation is this? yours or congress?
If so, let's take an asset such as a business a man wants to bequeath to his 2 children....
For example we'll say it's a company that manufactures Bedliners for Trucks..... Upon the owner's death, such business is appraised and sold for $6,000,000... The proceeds of the sale are allocated as follows.... ? Perhaps I am mistaking you, because the Government has no **** business whatsoever appointing itself as someone's majority Heir...
A. $3,000,000 to the Feds
B. $1,500,000 to child #1
C. $1,500,000 to child #2
16 Aug 2023 10:31 pm
SS the Ponzi scheme was designed to supplement savings, not be only source of income. The US government does not have to pay a penny of SS to anybody. The supreme court has already decided on that. Just keep raising the tax. Lots of boomers save the entire check. Aged need to save it for trips to Vegas. Generation XYZ, millennials, and general slackers need to pay more. And more. And more. Wait until the illegals start to collect! Dims love taxes and we must take care of the aged. Thanks.
16 Aug 2023 11:09 pm
If it was possible to opt out, many people would.
But the current system need the cash flow. So, no dice.
Since everyone is forced, it isn't anything more than wanting your own money back.
Please seat yourself.
I like the very things you hate.
I like the very things you hate.
16 Aug 2023 11:34 pm
The folks who contribute nothing to SS don't seem to understand that other people have had to do so over a lifetime of work... The people who funded the Program through this confiscatory Tax are the ones who should see dividends first.... And some people on the Left's notion that everyone should get the same amount, even if they paid nothing into the system is just another example of their demanding equal outcome -- regardless of one's input.DeezerShoove » 16 Aug 2023, 11:09 pm » wrote: ↑ If it was possible to opt out, many people would.
But the current system need the cash flow. So, no dice.
Since everyone is forced, it isn't anything more than wanting your own money back.
17 Aug 2023 12:58 am
Mrkelly » 16 Aug 2023, 3:25 pm » wrote: ↑ they are talking about raising it again
I had to wait until 67 and 4 months
they all want it gone
REJOICE..! DIVERSITY IS OUR STRENGTH KOMRADE...!!...You are sharing the Community Chest with 15 MM ILLEGAL ALIENS and it does my heart good to see a dumb **** Libtard like you crying like a little bitch right about now....
17 Aug 2023 2:57 am
re do math>>>>> 6million - 5million exclusion = 1million taxable......gov gets 500k....each child owes society 250k.....takes out loan.....or accountant had made plans.Kobia2 » 16 Aug 2023, 10:19 pm » wrote: ↑ I want to make sure I understood you correctly..... Did you mean a 50% Inheritance TAX on assets over $5,000,000?....
If so, let's take an asset such as a business a man wants to bequeath to his 2 children....
For example we'll say it's a company that manufactures Bedliners for Trucks..... Upon the owner's death, such business is appraised and sold for $6,000,000... The proceeds of the sale are allocated as follows.... ? Perhaps I am mistaking you, because the Government has no **** business whatsoever appointing itself as someone's majority Heir...
A. $3,000,000 to the Feds
B. $1,500,000 to child #1
C. $1,500,000 to child #2
17 Aug 2023 6:52 am
where was I crying goober?GHETTOBLASTER » 17 Aug 2023, 12:58 am » wrote: ↑ REJOICE..! DIVERSITY IS OUR STRENGTH KOMRADE...!!...You are sharing the Community Chest with 15 MM ILLEGAL ALIENS and it does my heart good to see a dumb **** Libtard like you crying like a little bitch right about now....
just stating facts
17 Aug 2023 7:36 am
THIS is a fact to you...?
....Mr Kelly stated this lie about SS and Conservatives..."They all want it gone
!!".Looks like crying like a little bitch to me...!
17 Aug 2023 7:43 am
Because you're a leech.
Not one bit surprised.
17 Aug 2023 7:48 am
your wife supports you, she is always on the street
17 Aug 2023 8:01 am
where did I say that lil feller?GHETTOBLASTER » 17 Aug 2023, 7:36 am » wrote: ↑ THIS is a fact to you...?
....Mr Kelly stated this lie about SS and Conservatives..."They all want it gone
Looks like crying like a little bitch to me...!
both parties want it gone goober
17 Aug 2023 8:10 am
Here are the actual income limits:righteous » 16 Aug 2023, 5:35 pm » wrote: ↑ HOW ABOUT NOT GETTING DOUBLE TAXED ON SOCIAL SECURITY BENEFITS? FOR DECADES, RETIREES PAID INTO THE SYSTEM WITH TAX DOLLARS. THEN THEIR BENEFITS ARE TAXED AGAIN AFTER RETIREMENT.
Webster Reintroduces Legislation to Eliminate Social Security Double-Tax - Press Releases - United States Congressman Daniel Webster (house.gov)
file a federal tax return as an "individual" and your combined income* isbetween $25,000 and $34,000, you may have to pay income tax on up to 50 percent of your benefits.more than $34,000, up to 85 percent of your benefits may be taxable.
file a joint return, and you and your spouse have a combined income* that isbetween $32,000 and $44,000, you may have to pay income tax on up to 50 percent of your benefits.more than $44,000, up to 85 percent of your benefits may be taxable
Those limits haven't changed since the 80's I believe.
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