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Trump Apparently Does Not Know Right From Wrong So He Must Want Confinement 


Aug. 16, 2023, 4:56 PM CDT


By Glenn Kirschner, MSNBC Columnist


Former President Donald Trump now stands criminally indicted in four separate cases.


Presently, he is on pretrial release in three of those cases, but it’s more than likely that the judge in the fourth case also decides to release him pending trial in Fulton County, Georgia. However, given a recent post in which Trump declared that a witness “shouldn’t” testify before Fani Willis’ grand jury there, the former president may be at higher risk of a judge getting sick of his bad behavior. 


I attended Trump’s arraignment hearing in early August in federal court in Washington, D.C. And I heard Magistrate Judge Moxila A. Upadhyaya say something that caught my attention.In the federal system, there are a number of laws that guide judges in deciding when they can and/or should detain a defendant pending trial.


The    Federal Bail Reform Act of 1966   established a presumption in favor of pretrial release. Congress further fine-tuned the law by amending the act in 1984, requiring a judge to release a defendant pending trial unless the judge concludes that detention is necessary to reasonably assure the defendant will not flee and/or endanger others. When a judge decides to release a defendant pending trial, they will set conditions of release that, if violated, can result in sanctions, up to and including pretrial detention. 


I attended Trump’s arraignment hearing in early August in federal court in Washington, D.C.


And I heard Magistrate Judge Moxila A. Upadhyaya say something that caught my attention. She told Trump that his “most important condition” of release was not committing a state, federal or local crime while on release. If Trump were to do so, she warned, a warrant could be issued for his arrest and he could be detained pending trial.


But on Monday, Trump posted something to social media that certainly could be interpreted as violating that “most important” condition of release. Just a few hours before the Georgia grand jury voted to indict him, the now-defendant posted: “I am reading reports that failed former Lt. Governor, Jeff Duncan, will be testifying before the Fulton County Grand Jury. He shouldn’t.” (Trump, who misspelled Duncan's first name, Geoff, went on to call  Duncan “a nasty disaster.”)   



'She knows who she is dealing with here': Judge sets limits for Trump; violation seems inevitable



Here we have Trump publicly telling a witness who he knew was scheduled to testify before a grand jury investigating his alleged crimes, that the witness should not testify. Cutting right to the chase, this is Trump taking a page out of the “Witness Tampering for Dummies” playbook.
 

At some level these four cases have to scare, even Donald Trump.

He doesn’t have enough sense to run away, but he is a risk to overdose of sleeping aids.

He can’t escape Justice in Georgia even if himself or any ally would win the presidency.

All 18 of his friends indicted with him in Georgia are going to turn on him.

Melania isn’t going to wait.

Even the crowds that love him are going to shrink.

Red kool aid doesn’t last forever.

What reason will he have to go on ?

Bruce » 17 Aug 2023, 4:53 am » wrote: ↑

17 Aug 2023, 4:53 am

At some level these four cases have to scare, even Donald Trump.

He doesn’t have enough sense to run away, but he is a risk to overdose of sleeping aids.

He can’t escape Justice in Georgia even if himself or any ally would win the presidency.

All 18 of his friends indicted with him in Georgia are going to turn on him.

Melania isn’t going to wait.

Even the crowds that love him are going to shrink.

Red kool aid doesn’t last forever.

What reason will he have to go on ?

Guys like Trump don't "overdose" because they love THEMSELVES too much... especially seeing as how he continues to pocket MILLIONS from all of it, as he ALWAYS has. He'd sure as hell instigate ****, and send others to "die FOR him"... he'd lie about a pandemic, threaten people's families, encourage acts of murder and violence, and incite civil war, but fkrs like him will ALWAYS take care of self, FIRST.

razoo » 17 Aug 2023, 3:47 am » wrote: ↑

17 Aug 2023, 3:47 am

Trump Apparently Does Not Know Right From Wrong So He Must Want Confinement 


Aug. 16, 2023, 4:56 PM CDT


By Glenn Kirschner, MSNBC Columnist


Former President Donald Trump now stands criminally indicted in four separate cases.


Presently, he is on pretrial release in three of those cases, but it’s more than likely that the judge in the fourth case also decides to release him pending trial in Fulton County, Georgia. However, given a recent post in which Trump declared that a witness “shouldn’t” testify before Fani Willis’ grand jury there, the former president may be at higher risk of a judge getting sick of his bad behavior. 


I attended Trump’s arraignment hearing in early August in federal court in Washington, D.C. And I heard Magistrate Judge Moxila A. Upadhyaya say something that caught my attention.In the federal system, there are a number of laws that guide judges in deciding when they can and/or should detain a defendant pending trial.


The    Federal Bail Reform Act of 1966   established a presumption in favor of pretrial release. Congress further fine-tuned the law by amending the act in 1984, requiring a judge to release a defendant pending trial unless the judge concludes that detention is necessary to reasonably assure the defendant will not flee and/or endanger others. When a judge decides to release a defendant pending trial, they will set conditions of release that, if violated, can result in sanctions, up to and including pretrial detention. 


I attended Trump’s arraignment hearing in early August in federal court in Washington, D.C.


And I heard Magistrate Judge Moxila A. Upadhyaya say something that caught my attention. She told Trump that his “most important condition” of release was not committing a state, federal or local crime while on release. If Trump were to do so, she warned, a warrant could be issued for his arrest and he could be detained pending trial.


But on Monday, Trump posted something to social media that certainly could be interpreted as violating that “most important” condition of release. Just a few hours before the Georgia grand jury voted to indict him, the now-defendant posted: “I am reading reports that failed former Lt. Governor, Jeff Duncan, will be testifying before the Fulton County Grand Jury. He shouldn’t.” (Trump, who misspelled Duncan's first name, Geoff, went on to call  Duncan “a nasty disaster.”)   



'She knows who she is dealing with here': Judge sets limits for Trump; violation seems inevitable



Here we have Trump publicly telling a witness who he knew was scheduled to testify before a grand jury investigating his alleged crimes, that the witness should not testify. Cutting right to the chase, this is Trump taking a page out of the “Witness Tampering for Dummies” playbook.
 

You won't explain the difference from genetic evolving and social evolution into intellectually defined tomorrows only arriving next now. Why are people never same total sum twice at a the same time here now?

just like leftist guerillas that don't know right from wrong and want to be locked up.

sunburn » 17 Aug 2023, 9:04 am » wrote: ↑

17 Aug 2023, 9:04 am

just like leftist guerillas that don't know right from wrong and want to be locked up.

This just in:  wazoo has been ordered to report to the Nut House for long term incarceration.     

“Former President Donald Trump now stands criminally indicted in four separate cases.”



File that one under….”don’t care.”

Bruce » 17 Aug 2023, 4:53 am » wrote: ↑

17 Aug 2023, 4:53 am

At some level these four cases have to scare, even Donald Trump.

He doesn’t have enough sense to run away, but he is a risk to overdose of sleeping aids.

He can’t escape Justice in Georgia even if himself or any ally would win the presidency.

All 18 of his friends indicted with him in Georgia are going to turn on him.

Melania isn’t going to wait.

Even the crowds that love him are going to shrink.

Red kool aid doesn’t last forever.

What reason will he have to go on ?

good points .......and at this hour of day I will subscribe to that thinking

Other than saying some words, what did Trump do?
You little bitches have a mission to hate the guy but what did he actually do except annoy you?

Word is that there's going to be a 5th indictment.
For election interference in Arizona. Probably going to be another racketeering charge.
Trump's dummy electors scheme is really proving to be a cash cow for state prosecutors.
Expect other states to follow shortly with evidence being shared by all of them connecting Trump and Co. to criminal activities.
The fat **** won't see the outside of a courtroom until 2026!

Squatchman » 18 Aug 2023, 1:41 am » wrote: ↑

18 Aug 2023, 1:41 am

Word is that there's going to be a 5th indictment.
For election interference in Arizona. Probably going to be another racketeering charge.
Trump's dummy electors scheme is really proving to be a cash cow for state prosecutors.
Expect other states to follow shortly with evidence being shared by all of them connecting Trump and Co. to criminal activities.
The fat **** won't see the outside of a courtroom until 2026!

The harder you try to eliminate another alternate reality, the faster your own reality implodes within itself.

razoo » 17 Aug 2023, 3:47 am » wrote: ↑

17 Aug 2023, 3:47 am

Trump Apparently Does Not Know Right From Wrong So He Must Want Confinement=15px.

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He is already in confinement...in a golden cage.
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Remember the good old days when GWB was attacked 24-7 because he was satan ! 
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B.See » 17 Aug 2023, 5:54 am » wrote: ↑

17 Aug 2023, 5:54 am

Guys like Trump don't "overdose" because they love THEMSELVES too much... especially seeing as how he continues to pocket MILLIONS from all of it, as he ALWAYS has. He'd sure as hell instigate ****, and send others to "die FOR him"... he'd lie about a pandemic, threaten people's families, encourage acts of murder and violence, and incite civil war, but fkrs like him will ALWAYS take care of self, FIRST.

You're truly a blind, ignorant, and gullible moron if you list things you THINK Trump might do, after watching your diaper boy and his flunkies in Congress and the left-wing media actually DO all those things over the past two years:

Lie about a pandemic?  BIDEN DID IT REPEATEDLY!
Threaten people's lives?  DEMOCRATS HAVE DONE THAT CONSTANTLY OVER THE LAST TWO 6 YEARS!
Encourage acts of violence?  WE'VE GOT VIDEO EVIDENCE OF DEMOCRATS REPEATEDLY SUPPORTING THE RIOTS IN 2020 AND NEVER LIFTING A FINGER TO STOP THEM!
Incite civil war?  WHY DO YOU THINK THAT RACE RELATIONS ARE AT AN ALL-TIME HIGH AFTER BIDEN PROMISED TO BRING "UNITY" TO THE COUNTRY?

And you're damn RIGHT that Trump is going to instigate PLENTY of LEGAL actions against the Biden Crime Family, Obama, and Hillary after he's elected, and that's the biggest reason you stupid liberals are SO afraid of him getting re-elected!

Go ahead and try to deny ANY ONE of those facts, and give me the opportunity to shove them right up your brainless ***!!!