Ford's E-150
By ROG62
19 Aug 2023 9:00 am in No Holds Barred Political Forum
19 Aug 2023 9:00 am
Ford CEO Admits 'Reality Check' When He Took Electric F-150 Truck on Road Trip...
“Charging has been pretty challenging,” Mr. Farley said in a video on X, formerly known as Twitter. “It was a really good reality check of the challenges of what our customers go through and the importance of fast charging and what we’re going to have to do to improve the charging experience.”In California, Mr. Farley said he encountered slow charging times. When using a low-speed charger, it took about 40 minutes for it to charge the electric F-150’s battery to 40 percent.
Another Charging Issue...
It comes after a Canadian man told news outlets that he was forced to abandon his Ford electric truck after suffering charging failures during a road trip. Dalbir Bala of La Salle, Manitoba, said he left his Lightning in Minnesota last month after he couldn’t charge its battery at two different stations.He then continued his drive in a rented gas-powered vehicle instead, he said.
His wife and three children joined him for the trip to Wisconsin and Chicago, setting out with three scheduled stops to recharge on the trip.
“It was really a nightmare frustration for us,” Mr. Bala told CBC News.His first stop was in Fargo, North Dakota, roughly 350 kilometers south of Winnipeg. He paid $56 to charge his vehicle’s battery from 10 percent to 90 percent capacity.
The problems began at his next stop in Albertville, Minnesota, when he received a “faulty connection” message in his truck after he plugged in the charger. He dialed the number on the charger for assistance but received no response.
“It was in [the] shop for 6 months. I can’t take it to my lake cabin. I cannot take it for off-grid camping. I cannot take for even a road trip,” he added. “I can only drive in city—biggest scam of modern times.”
Other Issues...
A report from the American Automobile Association (AAA), released in June, found that the vehicle’s battery range drops significantly when it is hauling heavy cargo—possibly jeopardizing the vehicle’s usage as a work truck. That includes hauling items like tools, toolboxes, equipment, and other items.
“In the case of battery electric pickups used as work vehicles, permanent loads (such as equipment racks, toolboxes, and equipment trays built into the vehicle) will reduce the range at all times, even without additional cargo,” the AAA said.The AAA noted that potential buyers should note what type of driving they will be doing before making the purchase, adding that EVs are better suited for urban driving.
“Our testing revealed a significant range reduction, but it’s important to note that the Lightning was loaded to near its maximum capacity,” Greg Brannon, director of AAA’s automotive engineering unit, stated in a news release. “Most buyers will likely use their Lightning with a lighter load, resulting in a much smaller range reduction.”
https://www.ntd.com/ford-ceo-admits-rea ... 37174.html
sounds worthless to me as a consumer...as kamaltoe says so eloquently of her party, "we have a lot of work to do..."
JuCo 5 percenter...72
“Show me the man and I’ll find you the crime” ~ LAVRENTIY BERIA
"Try to get past your passionate ignorance and learn to accept what actually happened." ~ brown's unheeded words of wisdom 
If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
"Libruls are often fascists on vacation..."
“Charging has been pretty challenging,” Mr. Farley said in a video on X, formerly known as Twitter. “It was a really good reality check of the challenges of what our customers go through and the importance of fast charging and what we’re going to have to do to improve the charging experience.”In California, Mr. Farley said he encountered slow charging times. When using a low-speed charger, it took about 40 minutes for it to charge the electric F-150’s battery to 40 percent.
Another Charging Issue...
It comes after a Canadian man told news outlets that he was forced to abandon his Ford electric truck after suffering charging failures during a road trip. Dalbir Bala of La Salle, Manitoba, said he left his Lightning in Minnesota last month after he couldn’t charge its battery at two different stations.He then continued his drive in a rented gas-powered vehicle instead, he said.
His wife and three children joined him for the trip to Wisconsin and Chicago, setting out with three scheduled stops to recharge on the trip.
“It was really a nightmare frustration for us,” Mr. Bala told CBC News.His first stop was in Fargo, North Dakota, roughly 350 kilometers south of Winnipeg. He paid $56 to charge his vehicle’s battery from 10 percent to 90 percent capacity.
The problems began at his next stop in Albertville, Minnesota, when he received a “faulty connection” message in his truck after he plugged in the charger. He dialed the number on the charger for assistance but received no response.
“It was in [the] shop for 6 months. I can’t take it to my lake cabin. I cannot take it for off-grid camping. I cannot take for even a road trip,” he added. “I can only drive in city—biggest scam of modern times.”
Other Issues...
A report from the American Automobile Association (AAA), released in June, found that the vehicle’s battery range drops significantly when it is hauling heavy cargo—possibly jeopardizing the vehicle’s usage as a work truck. That includes hauling items like tools, toolboxes, equipment, and other items.
“In the case of battery electric pickups used as work vehicles, permanent loads (such as equipment racks, toolboxes, and equipment trays built into the vehicle) will reduce the range at all times, even without additional cargo,” the AAA said.The AAA noted that potential buyers should note what type of driving they will be doing before making the purchase, adding that EVs are better suited for urban driving.
“Our testing revealed a significant range reduction, but it’s important to note that the Lightning was loaded to near its maximum capacity,” Greg Brannon, director of AAA’s automotive engineering unit, stated in a news release. “Most buyers will likely use their Lightning with a lighter load, resulting in a much smaller range reduction.”
https://www.ntd.com/ford-ceo-admits-rea ... 37174.html
sounds worthless to me as a consumer...as kamaltoe says so eloquently of her party, "we have a lot of work to do..."
JuCo 5 percenter...72
“Show me the man and I’ll find you the crime” ~ LAVRENTIY BERIA
"Try to get past your passionate ignorance and learn to accept what actually happened." ~ brown's unheeded words of wisdom
If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
"Libruls are often fascists on vacation..." 
19 Aug 2023 9:05 am
.ROG62 » 19 Aug 2023, 9:00 am » wrote: ↑ Ford CEO Admits 'Reality Check' When He Took Electric F-150 Truck on Road Trip...
Did you just see me some lunch money.
ultraliberals are not happy unless they are obsessing about something.
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19 Aug 2023 9:07 am
I did...just helping out the cyber poor and cyber hungry...
JuCo 5 percenter...72
“Show me the man and I’ll find you the crime” ~ LAVRENTIY BERIA
"Try to get past your passionate ignorance and learn to accept what actually happened." ~ brown's unheeded words of wisdom
If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
"Libruls are often fascists on vacation..." 
19 Aug 2023 9:10 am
In ten years every Constitutional Patriot afraid of the jab and who thought Mr Peters was Brandon will want an electric vehicle because it will be cheaper and better than a gas one.
For now most of the MAGAS that buy them are hooked on 0-60 times in the Charger Hellcat range.
Modern EVs are much, much faster than the fastest late sixties muscle cars.
Note the fast recharge on the road solution is more Fast Tesla Chargers.
https://www.tesla.com/supercharger
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The goal of the Supercharger network is to enable freedom of travel for Tesla owners at a fraction of the cost of gasoline. Reduce your cost per mile and never pay for gas again.
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For now most of the MAGAS that buy them are hooked on 0-60 times in the Charger Hellcat range.
Modern EVs are much, much faster than the fastest late sixties muscle cars.
Note the fast recharge on the road solution is more Fast Tesla Chargers.
https://www.tesla.com/supercharger
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The goal of the Supercharger network is to enable freedom of travel for Tesla owners at a fraction of the cost of gasoline. Reduce your cost per mile and never pay for gas again.
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19 Aug 2023 9:10 am
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Picture a jitterbug at the bus stop...sol-LID !
ultraliberals are not happy unless they are obsessing about something.
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19 Aug 2023 9:36 am
So you’re a bitch for the state. Got it.Bruce » 19 Aug 2023, 9:10 am » wrote: ↑ In ten years every Constitutional Patriot afraid of the jab
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19 Aug 2023 10:04 am
The Ford Motor Company wants every Trump voter in a Ford. They’ll make gas cars and trucks until nobody wants one.
The E-150 is brilliant. The body is the best selling truck in America. They don’t have a gas motor and don’t have a transmission and don’t drink any gasoline.
And Bob Farley is working on two problems:
1. More Tesla Superchargers
2. Cheaper price.
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Seating up to 6 $502/moSome Models Finance
https://www.ford.com/trucks/f150/
$49,995240 miles
EPA-estimated Range 240 miles
7,700 lbs.Available Towing
$700/moSome Models Finance
https://www.ford.com/trucks/f150/f150-lightning/
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Chevy and Ram will have EV pickups too.
The problem with gasoline pickups for a hundred years has been:
1. The things require expensive gasoline
2. They must have a powerful and complicated expensive gas motor that’s always three times less efficient than electric motors.
3. They lose a lot of torque through a transmission that an electric motor does not lose any.
Look at the next train that passes. That’s an electric motor on the locomotive being fed electricity by a diesel generator. It killed the old steam locomotives dead.
Why an E-150 will kill the F-150 are all the same reasons.
The electric motor requires three times less cost to run.
The electric motor is vastly cheaper and longer lasting than a piston engine.
The electric motor spins the axle, no transmission or drive train and 100% torque from zero RPM
The electric motor has nearly limitless power. Without governors the E-150 would not be drivable.
The same people afraid of the jab will want electric vehicles and Ford knows it.
They have to lower the price to where the electric is much cheaper to buy, and hook up to more Tesla Superchargers.
That doesn’t require a Dr. Fauci.
19 Aug 2023 10:28 am
wait until people in cold states are found dead- frozen solid- waiting for a charge!
19 Aug 2023 10:34 am
That’s a problem.sootedupCyndi » 19 Aug 2023, 10:28 am » wrote: ↑ wait until people in cold states are found dead- frozen solid- waiting for a charge!
But Sweden has solved it.
The market share of plug-in electric vehicles climbed from 0.57% in 2013 to 1.53% of new car sales in the country in 2014. The segment market share reached 2.5% in 2015, rose to 5.2% in 2017, 11.3% in 2019, to 32.2% in 2020., and achieved a record of 45.0% in 2021.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plug-in ... in%202021.
Why it’s not an unsolvable problem is every EV charges overnight in the garage or by a light pole for about 3 cents a mile. Let’s say you drive 100 miles round trip to work. Gas is over ten dollars a day and electricity is $3.
And for Christmas you want to go to North Dakota to see grandma.
All you need is a 15 minute rest stop every two hundred miles.
Ever try to keep brats from killing each other if you don’t stop every three hours?.
19 Aug 2023 10:40 am
speaking of heat! they gonna have resistance heat in these EV vehicles? further reducing range and requiring more charging?sootedupCyndi » 19 Aug 2023, 10:28 am » wrote: ↑ wait until people in cold states are found dead- frozen solid- waiting for a charge!
19 Aug 2023 10:44 am
The electric car will always be three times more efficient than gasoline.sunburn » 19 Aug 2023, 10:40 am » wrote: ↑ speaking of heat! they gonna have resistance heat in these EV vehicles? further reducing range and requiring more charging?
Let’s say without A/C or heat they go 300 miles.
Only 250 with the heat or air on.
My father’s 1965 Galaxie had to stop for gas every 150 miles, no air.
You can’t buy an electric that can’t go 200.
19 Aug 2023 10:54 am
What EV critics won’t admit is the present owners of Teslas are incredibly loyal and happy customers.
Elon Musk has recalled every Tesla he’s ever sold for a free upgrade.
At the start a Tesla cost $100,000 and they still sell a few to Tesla snobs.
Get this. Tesla just introduced an $88,000 top of the line model that has the range slightly reduced by software.
But Tesla will sell about two million $40,000 Teslas next year. Elon Musk is one of the richest men alive and in ten years likely will be the richest man to have ever lived.
Every electric vehicle in the world will charge up using a Tesla plug. All of them.
You can drive a Tesla 200 miles and charge up in 15 minutes for $6 and buy the kiddies some junk in the store, and let them all go potty.
Why didn’t we invent the Tesla?.
Elon Musk has recalled every Tesla he’s ever sold for a free upgrade.
At the start a Tesla cost $100,000 and they still sell a few to Tesla snobs.
Get this. Tesla just introduced an $88,000 top of the line model that has the range slightly reduced by software.
But Tesla will sell about two million $40,000 Teslas next year. Elon Musk is one of the richest men alive and in ten years likely will be the richest man to have ever lived.
Every electric vehicle in the world will charge up using a Tesla plug. All of them.
You can drive a Tesla 200 miles and charge up in 15 minutes for $6 and buy the kiddies some junk in the store, and let them all go potty.
Why didn’t we invent the Tesla?.
19 Aug 2023 11:18 am
EV is not the answer right now. It has very limited abilities. Long range no. Towing no. Always keep options. Until a proven system comes around use everything. Everybody wants clean CHEAP energy.
19 Aug 2023 11:20 am
19 Aug 2023 11:28 am
My car is paid for!!!!!Bruce » 19 Aug 2023, 10:34 am » wrote: ↑ That’s a problem.
But Sweden has solved it.
The market share of plug-in electric vehicles climbed from 0.57% in 2013 to 1.53% of new car sales in the country in 2014. The segment market share reached 2.5% in 2015, rose to 5.2% in 2017, 11.3% in 2019, to 32.2% in 2020., and achieved a record of 45.0% in 2021.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plug-in ... in%202021.
Why it’s not an unsolvable problem is every EV charges overnight in the garage or by a light pole for about 3 cents a mile. Let’s say you drive 100 miles round trip to work. Gas is over ten dollars a day and electricity is $3.
And for Christmas you want to go to North Dakota to see grandma.
All you need is a 15 minute rest stop every two hundred miles.
Ever try to keep brats from killing each other if you don’t stop every three hours?.
LOL why would I want a huge car payment to save pennies on gas. I could buy a Ton of gas- compared to the money spent on a new car payment monthly. Dummy!!
i could swim in it.
19 Aug 2023 11:37 am
I heard. That every electric car the company makes- they lose 60k on it. I don't remember if it was Ford or Gm.sunburn » 19 Aug 2023, 10:40 am » wrote: ↑ speaking of heat! they gonna have resistance heat in these EV vehicles? further reducing range and requiring more charging?
but?
IF that is true??????
where are they getting the money?
They aren't going to lose money.
I had a rich relative who was high up there in GM.
those rich creeps- think i ever got a car outta the relationship. No Not even a used one.
19 Aug 2023 11:42 am
I love my 2012 Chrysler Hemi 300S.sootedupCyndi » 19 Aug 2023, 11:28 am » wrote: ↑ My car is paid for!!!!!
LOL why would I want a huge car payment to save pennies on gas. I could buy a Ton of gas- compared to the money spent on a new car payment monthly. Dummy!!
i could swim in it.
It has about 4,000 hours on the drive train.
It might last another 6,000 hours but the best 4,000 are gone.
Me and my car are both someday going to die and I hope I outlive my car, we all do, don’t we?
In another ten years my Chrysler will get close to 10,000 hours, and I’ll only be 75.
It will be time to replace it then.
2023 Teslas will be all over the used car lots in ten years.
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According to Tesla directly, the Model S and all other models are rated for around 300,000 to 500,000 miles.
Beyond that, your Tesla can clock over one million miles if you replace the batteries and motor.
August 10, 2023
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19 Aug 2023 11:47 am
You love it? I had the opposite experience with Chrysler.Bruce » 19 Aug 2023, 11:42 am » wrote: ↑ I love my 2012 Chrysler Hemi 300S.
It has about 4,000 hours on the drive train.
It might last another 6,000 hours but the best 4,000 are gone.
Me and my car are both someday going to die and I hope I outlive my car, we all do, don’t we?
In another ten years my Chrysler will get close to 10,000 hours, and I’ll only be 75.
It will be time to replace it then.
2023 Teslas will be all over the used car lots in ten years.
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According to Tesla directly, the Model S and all other models are rated for around 300,000 to 500,000 miles.
Beyond that, your Tesla can clock over one million miles if you replace the batteries and motor.
August 10, 2023
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Two! That were the worst lemons of my life. Never touched another one. But I will say they were very snazzy lookin cars.
Mostly Buicks and a few Fords were ok. my favorite car was a little Nissan.
19 Aug 2023 11:52 am
52 year old Elon Musk is this rich making Teslas:sootedupCyndi
I heard. That every electric car the company makes- they lose 60k on it. I don't remember if it was Ford or Gm.
but?
IF that is true??????
where are they getting the money?
They aren't going to lose money.
I had a rich relative who was high up there in GM.
those rich creeps- think i ever got a car outta the relationship. No Not even a used one.
He had Amber Heard for a girlfriend before Johnny Depp and Amber Heard still loves Elon Musk, never took a dump in his bed.
Current girl friend of Elon Musk
He owns a chain of satellites and space ships:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/SpaceX
He spent 44 billion of other people’s money for Twitter and changed the name to X just for the hell of it.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twitter
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Teslas are extremely profitable.
19 Aug 2023 12:02 pm
My Chrysler 300 was a decade old design in 2012 when I bought it new, as to the drive train and 7 years for the body. It’s as bulletproof as any Detroit large car ever was.sootedupCyndi » 19 Aug 2023, 11:47 am » wrote: ↑ You love it? I had the opposite experience with Chrysler.
Two! That were the worst lemons of my life. Never touched another one. But I will say they were very snazzy lookin cars.
Mostly Buicks and a few Fords were ok. my favorite car was a little Nissan.
Why Elon Musk got crazy stupid rich making Teslas, is he’s cut the price by way over half and established Tesla as the electric car to beat.
To actually make a Tesla, the parts, are not much more than an electric golf cart.
I doubt Musk has $7,500 total in all the entire cost of any Tesla, which is paid in full by the rebate.
There’s no gas engine or transmission.
Replace the batteries and rebuild the simple electric motor and it might last one hundred years.
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