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 What do most Americans say? 

Sixty-five percent of Americans supported selecting the President by popular vote, compared to 32% who preferred the Electoral College in a June 2018 PRRI/Atlantic survey. 

There’s less support if the wording includes changing the Constitution.

A Pew survey in March of 2018 asked if Americans supported amending the Constitution to select the President by popular vote and a smaller 55%, still a popular majority, endorsed the idea.

https://www.cnn.com/2019/03/19/politics ... index.html
 

With Instant Run-off Voting, we would determine a true majority winner in one election and banish the spoiler concept. Voters would not have to calculate possible perverse consequences of voting for their favorite candidate. They could vote their hopes, not their fears."

http://www.instantrunoff.com

http://www.fairvote.org

http://www.reclaimdemocracy.org

http://www.firv.org/

http://www.massirv.org

http://www.nysirv.org

http://www.midwestdemocracy.org

It's time to abolish the Electoral College

https://www.brookings.edu › articles › its-time-to-abol...

In most elections, the Electoral College has operated smoothly. State voters have cast their ballots and the presidential candidate with the most votes in a ...

The Popular Vote would most likely drive presidential candidates spend more time in all states as opposed to
focusing only on the states with the largest Electoral College numbers.

Electing our Presidents by popular vote would require 38 states to approve a constitutional amendment and would still not solve the Trump problem.



We have a constitutional republic of fifty states that conduct federal elections for President.

I propose Congress provides a federal law for the death penalty by public hanging for any attempted election fraud of substitution of fake electors for authorized electors.

That would make Christians out of all future Trumps.

Bruce » 27 Aug 2023, 12:14 am » wrote: ↑

27 Aug 2023, 12:14 am

Electing our Presidents by popular vote would require 38 states to approve a constitutional amendment and would still not solve the Trump problem.

We have a constitutional republic of fifty states that conduct federal elections for President.

I propose Congress provides a federal law for the death penalty by public hanging for any attempted election fraud of substitution of fake electors for authorized electors.

That would make Christians out of all future Trumps.

This is not about a Trump problem necessarily. It's a matter of having every vote count nothing more nothing less.
A majority vote wins should be the rule of law.
 

razoo » 27 Aug 2023, 12:05 am » wrote: ↑

27 Aug 2023, 12:05 am

It's time to abolish the Electoral College

https://www.brookings.edu › articles › its-time-to-abol...

In most elections, the Electoral College has operated smoothly. State voters have cast their ballots and the presidential candidate with the most votes in a ...

Then quit whining and get off your lazy liberal *** and change the Constitution.

BTW...good luck with that because it will NEVER happen.
 

razoo » 27 Aug 2023, 12:18 am » wrote: ↑

27 Aug 2023, 12:18 am

This is not about a Trump problem necessarily. It's a matter of having every vote count nothing more nothing less.
A majority vote wins should be the rule of law.

You still don't understand the people have never elected a President...the states elect the President (and now Vice-president).
 

ConsRule » 27 Aug 2023, 7:47 am » wrote: ↑

27 Aug 2023, 7:47 am

You still don't understand the people have never elected a President...the states elect the President (and now Vice-president).

Evermore reason to ditch the Electoral College and make make majority popular vote the rule of law ............

WE can put this on the ballot and let we the people decide ................
 

razoo » 27 Aug 2023, 8:16 am » wrote: ↑

27 Aug 2023, 8:16 am

Evermore reason to ditch the Electoral College and make make majority popular vote the rule of law ............

WE can put this on the ballot and let we the people decide ................

The get off your whiny liberal *** and force a Constitutional Amendment through Congress.

ConsRule » 27 Aug 2023, 7:47 am » wrote: ↑

27 Aug 2023, 7:47 am

You still don't understand the people have never elected a President...the states elect the President (and now Vice-president).

  Sounds like you guys can't compete without a handicap 
Heads up competition isn't for republicans apparently.
What are you scared of? I thought America loves trump?
 

razoo » 27 Aug 2023, 12:07 am » wrote: ↑

27 Aug 2023, 12:07 am

The Popular Vote would most likely drive presidential candidates spend more time in all states as opposed to
focusing only on the states with the largest Electoral College numbers.

NO ****, a "popular vote" would result in ONLY THE STATES where winning the popular vote would be CAMPAIGNED IN!!

States like NY, ILLINOIS, NEW YORK, NEW JERSEY, FLORIDA AND TEXAS. NO other states would ever see a candidate.

You're a **** IDIOT and nothing more than another COMMIE MOUTHPIECE POS!!

Beekeeper » 27 Aug 2023, 8:55 am » wrote: ↑

27 Aug 2023, 8:55 am

NO ****, a "popular vote" would result in ONLY THE STATES where winning the popular vote would be CAMPAIGNED IN!!

States like NY, ILLINOIS, NEW YORK, NEW JERSEY, FLORIDA AND TEXAS. NO other states would ever see a candidate.

You're a **** IDIOT and nothing more than another COMMIE MOUTHPIECE POS!!

  You're another republican that's afraid of heads up competition because you know you'll lose.
 Because you're a minority.
 

Squatchman » 27 Aug 2023, 8:54 am » wrote: ↑

27 Aug 2023, 8:54 am

  Sounds like you guys can't compete without a handicap 
Heads up competition isn't for republicans apparently.
What are you scared of? I thought America loves trump?

Sounds like YOU COMMIES want to have POWER AND CONTROL and want to DESTROY your enemy!!

Sucks you can't seem to garner the votes to AMEND THE CONSTITUTION, huh?? You know, where you have to garner the majority of STATES to change it, and NOT the popular vote that counts.

 

ConsRule » 27 Aug 2023, 7:47 am » wrote: ↑

27 Aug 2023, 7:47 am

You still don't understand the people have never elected a President...the states elect the President (and now Vice-president).

Voters live in the states ..............

Squatchman » 27 Aug 2023, 8:59 am » wrote: ↑

27 Aug 2023, 8:59 am

  You're another republican that's afraid of heads up competition because you know you'll lose.
 Because you're a minority.

No, ****, REPUBLICANS ARE NOT THE MINORITY!!

MORE and more and moving to the REPUBLICANS and your party is NOW THE MINORITY ASSHOLES!!




 https://news.gallup.com/poll/15370/part ... ation.aspx
 
 

Squatchman » 27 Aug 2023, 8:59 am » wrote: ↑

27 Aug 2023, 8:59 am

  You're another republican that's afraid of heads up competition because you know you'll lose.
 Because you're a minority.

WRONG AGAIN, room temp!!

                   

Z09 » 27 Aug 2023, 9:02 am » wrote: ↑

27 Aug 2023, 9:02 am

Hey Squatchman...

Remember the good old days when interest rates were in the 3's..?

And inflation and energy prices were lower?

  No comment being a minority that needs help to even be close in elections?
Just but,but,but.
 Remember the resounding defeat trump suffered at the hands of Joe Biden?
 

Who actually elects the president quizlet?

Every four years, the president and vice president are elected through a system based on the Electoral College. The Electoral College is a group of people, called presidential electors, who are chosen in each state and Washington D.C. who cast the formal votes for the president and vice president.

Who votes directly to elect a President?

In other U.S. elections, candidates are elected directly by popular vote. But the president and vice president are not elected directly by citizens. Instead, they are chosen by "electors" through a process called the Electoral College