The Electoral College is How The Minority Party Wins The White House however the Popular Vote = every vote counts

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26 Aug 2023 11:56 pm in No Holds Barred Political Forum
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What is the Electoral College?

The Electoral College is a process, not a place. The Founding Fathers established it in the Constitution, in part, as a compromise between the election of the President by a vote in Congress and election of the President by a popular vote of qualified citizens.


What is the process?

The Electoral College process consists of the selection of the electors, the meeting of the electors where they vote for President and Vice President, and the counting of the electoral votes by Congress.


How many electors are there? How are they distributed among the States?

The Electoral College consists of 538 electors. A majority of 270 electoral votes is required to elect the President. Your State has the same number of electors as it does Members in its Congressional delegation: one for each Member in the House of Representatives plus two Senators. Read more about the allocation of electoral votes.

The District of Columbia is allocated 3 electors and treated like a State for purposes of the Electoral College under the 23rd Amendment of the Constitution. For this reason, in the following discussion, the word “State” also refers to the District of Columbia and “Executive” to the State Governors and the Mayor of the District of Columbia.


How are my electors chosen? What are their qualifications? How do they decide who to vote for?

Each candidate running for President in your State has their own group of electors (known as a slate). The slates are generally chosen by the candidate’s political party in your State, but State laws vary on how the electors are selected and what their responsibilities are. Read more about the qualifications of the electors and restrictions on who the electors may vote for.


What happens in the general election? Why should I vote?

The general election is held every four years on the Tuesday after the first Monday in November. When you vote for a Presidential candidate you are actually voting for your candidate's preferred electors. Learn more about voting for the electors.

Most States have a “winner-take-all” system that awards all electors to the Presidential candidate who wins the State's popular vote. However, Maine and Nebraska each have a variation of “proportional representation.
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What happens after the general election?


After the general election, your State's Executive prepares a Certificate of Ascertainment listing the names of all the individuals on the slates for each candidate. The Certificate of Ascertainment also lists the number of votes each individual received and shows which individuals were appointed as your State's electors. Your State’s Certificate of Ascertainment is sent to NARA as part of the official records of the Presidential election.


The meeting of the electors takes place on the first Tuesday after the second Wednesday in December after the general election. The electors meet in their respective States, where they cast their votes for President and Vice President on separate ballots. Your State’s electors’ votes are recorded on a Certificate of Vote, which is prepared at the meeting by the electors. Your State’s Certificate of Vote is sent to Congress, where the votes are counted, and to NARA, as part of the official records of the Presidential election.


Each State’s electoral votes are counted in a joint session of Congress on the 6th of January in the year following the meeting of the electors. Members of the House and Senate meet in the House Chamber to conduct the official count of electoral votes. The Vice President of the United States, as President of the Senate, presides over the count in a strictly ministerial manner and announces the results of the vote. The President of the Senate then declares which persons, if any, have been elected President and Vice President of the United States.


The President-elect takes the oath of office and is sworn in as President of the United States on January 20th in the year following the general election.
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Z09 » 27 Aug 2023, 9:08 am » wrote: I remember the election results

And now because of that we have the highest interest rates in decades...
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razoo » 27 Aug 2023, 9:12 am » wrote: What is the Electoral College?

The Electoral College is a process, not a place. The Founding Fathers established it in the Constitution, in part, as a compromise between the election of the President by a vote in Congress and election of the President by a popular vote of qualified citizens.

What is the process?

The Electoral College process consists of the selection of the electors, the meeting of the electors where they vote for President and Vice President, and the counting of the electoral votes by Congress.

How many electors are there? How are they distributed among the States?

The Electoral College consists of 538 electors. A majority of 270 electoral votes is required to elect the President. Your State has the same number of electors as it does Members in its Congressional delegation: one for each Member in the House of Representatives plus two Senators. Read more about the allocation of electoral votes.

The District of Columbia is allocated 3 electors and treated like a State for purposes of the Electoral College under the 23rd Amendment of the Constitution. For this reason, in the following discussion, the word “State” also refers to the District of Columbia and “Executive” to the State Governors and the Mayor of the District of Columbia.

How are my electors chosen? What are their qualifications? How do they decide who to vote for?

Each candidate running for President in your State has their own group of electors (known as a slate). The slates are generally chosen by the candidate’s political party in your State, but State laws vary on how the electors are selected and what their responsibilities are. Read more about the qualifications of the electors and restrictions on who the electors may vote for.

What happens in the general election? Why should I vote?

The general election is held every four years on the Tuesday after the first Monday in November. When you vote for a Presidential candidate you are actually voting for your candidate's preferred electors. Learn more about voting for the electors.

Most States have a “winner-take-all” system that awards all electors to the Presidential candidate who wins the State's popular vote. However, Maine and Nebraska each have a variation of “proportional representation.
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razoo » 27 Aug 2023, 9:14 am » wrote: What happens after the general election?

After the general election, your State's Executive prepares a Certificate of Ascertainment listing the names of all the individuals on the slates for each candidate. The Certificate of Ascertainment also lists the number of votes each individual received and shows which individuals were appointed as your State's electors. Your State’s Certificate of Ascertainment is sent to NARA as part of the official records of the Presidential election.

The meeting of the electors takes place on the first Tuesday after the second Wednesday in December after the general election. The electors meet in their respective States, where they cast their votes for President and Vice President on separate ballots. Your State’s electors’ votes are recorded on a Certificate of Vote, which is prepared at the meeting by the electors. Your State’s Certificate of Vote is sent to Congress, where the votes are counted, and to NARA, as part of the official records of the Presidential election.

Each State’s electoral votes are counted in a joint session of Congress on the 6th of January in the year following the meeting of the electors. Members of the House and Senate meet in the House Chamber to conduct the official count of electoral votes. The Vice President of the United States, as President of the Senate, presides over the count in a strictly ministerial manner and announces the results of the vote. The President of the Senate then declares which persons, if any, have been elected President and Vice President of the United States.

The President-elect takes the oath of office and is sworn in as President of the United States on January 20th in the year following the general election.
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Squatchman » 27 Aug 2023, 9:06 am » wrote:   No comment being a minority that needs help to even be close in elections?
Just but,but,but.
 Remember the resounding defeat trump suffered at the hands of Joe Biden?
Keep repeating the LIE, roomtemp!!

And just like your NAZI Goebbels said, "make it big enough and repeat it enough, people start to believe it"!!

Sucks how FACTS PROVE YOU WRONG every single time, huh, squatty??

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Squatchman » 27 Aug 2023, 8:54 am » wrote:   Sounds like you guys can't compete without a handicap 
Heads up competition isn't for republicans apparently.
What are you scared of? I thought America loves trump?
Like I've said repeatedly...if you don't like the **** rules, get off your whiny liberal *** and try to change the Constitution.
 
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razoo » 26 Aug 2023, 11:56 pm » wrote:  What do most Americans say? 

Sixty-five percent of Americans supported selecting the President by popular vote, compared to 32% who preferred the Electoral College in a June 2018 PRRI/Atlantic survey. 

There’s less support if the wording includes changing the Constitution.

Pew survey in March of 2018 asked if Americans supported amending the Constitution to select the President by popular vote and a smaller 55%, still a popular majority, endorsed the idea.

https://www.cnn.com/2019/03/19/politics ... index.html
too bad for you, crocodile tears, we live in a Democratic Republic....not a Democracy.
The Founder of the great country set up a Constitution for the Republic.  It is supreme law.
And yes, it is to protect the minority from the majority....especially when the majority are not universally loved and they try to destroy the Constitution.
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razoo » 27 Aug 2023, 9:08 am » wrote: Who votes directly to elect a President?

In other U.S. elections, candidates are elected directly by popular vote. But the president and vice president are not elected directly by citizens. Instead, they are chosen by "electors" through a process called the Electoral College
Yep!! AND DESIGNED THAT WAY TO PROTECT THE MINORITY AND SMALLER STATES FROM THE OPPRESSION OF THE BIG STATES IN OUR GOVERNMENT!!

Sucks for you, huh, turdface??

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razoo » 26 Aug 2023, 11:56 pm » wrote:  What do most Americans say? 

Sixty-five percent of Americans supported selecting the President by popular vote, compared to 32% who preferred the Electoral College in a June 2018 PRRI/Atlantic survey. 

There’s less support if the wording includes changing the Constitution.

Pew survey in March of 2018 asked if Americans supported amending the Constitution to select the President by popular vote and a smaller 55%, still a popular majority, endorsed the idea.

https://www.cnn.com/2019/03/19/politics ... index.html
 
most people follow power of suggesting life isn't self evident while evolving as displaced. It has always been, by the way. When last generation is surrounded by previous 4 since birth, each one doesn't really get a choice but to follow their traditional values until dead teaching those values to each generation they coming after their children are born, if one has any at all.

Adoptions don't transfer personal DNA to next generations. Biological conception isn't social adoption of other people's children or ideologies.

Not for the topic of the thread title. Electoral College was to allow rural populations to get equal representation as urban areas. This country was founded to preserve liberty to die same ancestor as born, not become some typecast character saving the world theaters of organized doubt so those in charge stay in power to define who's who each great great grandchild added to this every changing population arriving one at a time now.

Series parallel time occupying space in sequence of specific arrival and departures even though it gets defined as random changes, but they aren't because genetics actually eternally separates ancestral replacements when occupying space here.

Happens same way every generation gap each generation is educated to ignore same things previous generation gaps did historically.
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razoo » 26 Aug 2023, 11:56 pm » wrote:  What do most Americans say? 

Sixty-five percent of Americans supported selecting the President by popular vote, compared to 32% who preferred the Electoral College in a June 2018 PRRI/Atlantic survey. 

There’s less support if the wording includes changing the Constitution.

Pew survey in March of 2018 asked if Americans supported amending the Constitution to select the President by popular vote and a smaller 55%, still a popular majority, endorsed the idea.

https://www.cnn.com/2019/03/19/politics ... index.html
Liberals want mob rule. 
Thankfully our Founding Fathers were smarter than them.
 
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Beekeeper » 27 Aug 2023, 4:20 pm » wrote: Yep!! AND DESIGNED THAT WAY TO PROTECT THE MINORITY AND SMALLER STATES FROM THE OPPRESSION OF THE BIG STATES IN OUR GOVERNMENT!!

Sucks for you, huh, turdface??

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Not just states.  It's Democrat population centers that sway their states. 
Most of New York State isn't liberal. 
90% of Illinois is overrun by Chicago.
Missouri is overruled by St Louis. 
California answers to Los Angeles and San Franciso.
Oregon by Portland.
Washington by Seattle.

And what do all these cities have in common? 
They're all ****. 
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golfboy » 27 Aug 2023, 6:01 pm » wrote: Not just states.  It's Democrat population centers that sway their states. 
Most of New York State isn't liberal. 
90% of Illinois is overrun by Chicago.
Missouri is overruled by St Louis. 
California answers to Los Angeles and San Franciso.
Oregon by Portland.
Washington by Seattle.

And what do all these cities have in common? 
They're all ****.
they should have a **** anthem;

I'm a **** hole,
we're a **** hole,
wouldn't you want
to be a **** hole too?
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razoo » 26 Aug 2023, 11:56 pm » wrote:  What do most Americans say? 

Sixty-five percent of Americans supported selecting the President by popular vote, compared to 32% who preferred the Electoral College in a June 2018 PRRI/Atlantic survey. 

There’s less support if the wording includes changing the Constitution.

Pew survey in March of 2018 asked if Americans supported amending the Constitution to select the President by popular vote and a smaller 55%, still a popular majority, endorsed the idea.

https://www.cnn.com/2019/03/19/politics ... index.html
too bad 
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razoo » 26 Aug 2023, 11:56 pm » wrote:  What do most Americans say? 

Sixty-five percent of Americans supported selecting the President by popular vote, compared to 32% who preferred the Electoral College in a June 2018 PRRI/Atlantic survey. 

There’s less support if the wording includes changing the Constitution.

Pew survey in March of 2018 asked if Americans supported amending the Constitution to select the President by popular vote and a smaller 55%, still a popular majority, endorsed the idea.

https://www.cnn.com/2019/03/19/politics ... index.html

Hey Ratzoo

No...It's how the US picks a president....or it was until the progressive democrats and GOP Rinos decided to just rig the elections and use the power of government to shut the American people up about it
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razoo » 26 Aug 2023, 11:56 pm » wrote: Sixty-five percent of Americans supported selecting the President by popular vote, compared to 32% who preferred the Electoral College
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If people don't like it...they should dig up the country Fonders and tell them.
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BTW: I am sure they did it for a treason...I'm positive.
ultraliberals are not happy unless they are obsessing about something.
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Mob rule will have the welfare, troglodyte class of this county picking our president.

Can't have that.

Dimocrats rely on the welfare, give me, give me, give me class to win election.

Thank God for the founding father 🇺🇲
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Squatchman » 27 Aug 2023, 8:54 am » wrote:   Sounds like you guys can't compete without a handicap 
Heads up competition isn't for republicans apparently.
What are you scared of? I thought America loves trump?
         Actually it sounds like you can't, and we've heard this whining from the Democrats before...
  
        This is why Civics should have never been removed from the classrooms..... We ARE NOT  straight up or down majority Democracy, nor did the Framers ever designed or intend this country to be so.... We are a Constitutional Representative Republic....

        The colonies would have never banded to become the United States, if the system was created where the smaller & lesser populated States would be dominated by the will of the people in the larger ones... Now, just as then, one size Fits-all Government does not represent the best interest of the individual States and their Residents... This is why the Framers wanted these powers of self-determination & governance to remain in the hands of the States --- and for the Federal Government to have limited powers over the State's affairs --- something the Left vehemently would like to change... 

          

         
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golfboy » 27 Aug 2023, 5:58 pm » wrote: Liberals want mob rule. 
Thankfully our Founding Fathers were smarter than them.
 
One thing you are inaccurate about, They didn't pretend to be smarter, just more honest about evolving in plain sight where genetic results are actually living being eternally separated by the moment here.

Coming into life takes conceived by what already exists, leaving takes each cycle ending its time adapting in space proportionately alive.

That old saying about east is east and west is west. dawn and dusk are always taking place on a rotating planet where anything added never stays the same total sum again.

Karma, dawn doesn't magically go away, it is always present on the surface off this planet perpetually balancing in this universal space of occupying time now.

Distance between inception and conception is each generation gap added. No more generation gaps, no more ancestral lineages. No more ancestral lineages, no more species.

Self evident how, why, which, what, where, when, who, generation gap did or does exist now.

Why won't people accept it when rule of law demands everyone ignore how evolving happens naturally.

Means, motives, methods, opportunities to gain power, wealth, fame, misleading everyone else alive adapting in space of adapting to the moment here equally proportioned replacement.

Equally timed apart doesn't guarantee equal outcome since each lifetime is unique and separate. Survival of the fittest isn't a dog eat dog world order. It is universal perpetual balancing outcomes for each incoming compounding replacement changing total sum left existing here now, right?

Don't seek a career of who you rather become after birth, you have to quit being you in the process of acting in typecast roles performing as legally stereotyped cradle to grave or face insubordination, treason, blasphemy against your previous 4 generation gaps.
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Take America Back !!!!!!!

Instant Run-off Voting (IRV) allows voters to rank their candidates in order of choice: 1 for their first choice, 2, 3, and so on. If a candidate receives a majority of the votes, then that candidate wins.

But when no candidate has a majority of votes, then the last place candidate is defeated, and in an instant second round of counting, the eliminated candidate’s votes go to each voter’s next choice.

Your vote for second choice thus counts if your first choice is unable to win. Rounds of counting continue until there is a majority winner.

The system of IRV encourages electoral competition. Because each voter does not have to worry about "spoiling" the election or "wasting" their vote on a less popular 3rd party candidate, more citizens will be encouraged to participate in elections - both as voters and as candidates. Encouraging more candidates to run will foster a broader political debate and create a more engaged citizenry.
 
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