J. Michael Luttig and Laurence Tribe make the case for Trump’s disqualification from public office

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27 Aug 2023 12:10 am in No Holds Barred Political Forum
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In the interest of continuity .......

exile all of them Jan 6th critters to Russia or Iraq ............ the USA freezes all of their assets then takes ownership. Since all of them hate the USA and some on this board would be more than happy to go with them.

That's better.....
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razoo » 27 Aug 2023, 12:10 am » wrote: J. Michael Luttig and Laurence Tribe make the case for Trump’s disqualification from public office

In a new article for The Atlantic, retired former federal judge J. Michael Luttig and top legal scholar Laurence Tribe make the case that the Constitution includes a provision that disqualifies Donald Trump from holding public office again.

Section Three of the Fourteenth Amendment is also known as the “disqualification clause.” It’s only two sentences long but it could doom Trump’s bid to return to the White House.

The disqualification clause “forbids the former president from holding the office of the presidency again because of his conduct in and around January 6, 2021,” says Judge Luttig.

And as Tribe points out, it’s not a sanction against an individual. “The framers of the 14th Amendment took great care not to treat this as a punishment … Nobody has a right to be president without meeting the qualifications.”

https://www.msnbc.com/ali-velshi/watch/ ... 1177797850
a reminder for the short memories ........
 
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razoo » 27 Aug 2023, 12:10 am » wrote: .

Section Three of the Fourteenth Amendment is also known as the “disqualification clause.” It’s only two sentences long but it could doom Trump’s bid to return to the White House.
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Did it mention anything about a conviction ?
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Zeets2 » 27 Aug 2023, 9:49 am » wrote: Sure smells like liberal panic to me!

And it's laughable how dopes like you think you've hurt Trump with these phony criminal charges, when he just set a record for campaign contributions in ONE DAY, (the day you Democrat idiots released the Trump mug shot) of $4.18 MILLION, and almost $20 million in the last 3 weeks alone, thanks to your liberal stupidity!

So tell us, nitwit.
How is it possible to explain Biden's two-tiered justice system when it's already been proven how the corrupt DOJ and FBI colluded to withhold the Hunter laptop from being released prior to the election, while they concocted a phony group of lying scumbags who were former intelligence agents to discredit the laptop?  And how are you going to prove that Trump took classified documents out of the White House, despite the fact that HE ALONE HAD THE POWER TO DECLASSIFY THEM, while BOTH Hillary and Joe stole even MORE classified docs and DID NOT EVER have the power to declassify them?

Bet you can't wait to see the GA case come up where Trump can reveal to the public and the courts the proof that he has of voter fraud being rampant in that state, huh?  Or for the DC court to watch the video's of Trump pleading with the Jan 6th crowd to "march PEACEFULLY AND PATRIOTICALLY" to the Capitol, while showing the proof of how multiple FBI agents were planted in the crowd to instigate them into rioting?

Nobody but a brain-dead liberal like you could possibly believe that it's nothing but an blatant attempt to keep Trump busy so he can't campaign next year BECAUSE YOU'RE SCARED TO DEATH HE'S GOING TO CRUSH BIDEN IN THE ELECTION!  And how such cowardly tactics can be used against the next Democrat leading candidate when it's a Republican DOJ making up similar charges against him?

You've opened Pandora's box now, and dumb libs like you will scream bloody murder when your boy is on the receiving end!
I dunno... you'd think if Trump really had proof of voter fraud being RAMPANT in Georgia, he would have produced it LONG before now.  Just think how that might have turned the tide of the fizzled red tsunami in 2022.   :rofl:  
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MackTheFinger » 10 Sep 2023, 9:45 am » wrote: .
Did it mention anything about a conviction ?
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I take it you haven't read the 14th Amendment?
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This fake republican party killed the republican party mostly because the party has been lying for about 43 years.
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Jantje_Smit » 27 Aug 2023, 3:37 am » wrote: Something tells me the case for 'we got him now' will be going nowhere...

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91 indictments. You are dreaming, cultist. 
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maineman » 10 Sep 2023, 10:17 am » wrote: I take it you haven't read the 14th Amendment?
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Numerous times. (I have a pocket pal on my deck)

There is no mention of any conviction which is the corner stone of legal system.

I take it you maserbated in the shower to many times when out to sea because you are a real cyber JO, Trump's cabinet is reportedly discussing the 25th Amendment to remove him from office after the Capitol riots
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.Trump's cabinet is reportedly discussing the 25th Amendment to remove him from office after the Capitol riotsImage

 
 
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MackTheFinger » 10 Sep 2023, 10:50 am » wrote: .
Numerous times. (I have a pocket pal on my deck)

There is no mention of any conviction which is the corner stone of legal system.
There is no mention of any criminal conviction on purpose.  It is not a punishment, merely a disqualification.
 
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maineman » 10 Sep 2023, 12:53 pm » wrote: There is no mention of any criminal conviction on purpose.  It is not a punishment, merely a disqualification.
what's the matter @MackTheFinger ?

Can't quite figure out how to tap dance away from this?

Isn't it about time for you to dust off your old "now I'm not saying that mainvain is stolen valor......" line of slanderous ****?  Or maybe just slink away and hope this thread disappears onto the second page?
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razoo » 29 Aug 2023, 9:25 am » wrote: In the interest of continuity .......

exile all of them Jan 6th critters to Russia or Iraq ............ the USA freezes all of their assets then takes ownership. Since all of them hate the USA and some on this board would be more than happy to go with them.

That's better.....
Exile all Globalist JWO brainwashed Liberal Fascists who love  seeing the USA converted to a single party only Banana Republic.

It already happened once the JWO took full control of our nation's Secret Police.
"In one particular message, when Page asked if Trump would ever become president, Strzok reportedly replied, “No. No he won't. We'll stop it.”"
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It is self execution = does not need a court nor a conviction ............

Trump and Fascist DeSantis are DOA ........... so is the fake republican party.
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maineman » 10 Sep 2023, 1:39 pm » wrote: ...."now I'm not saying that mainvain is stolen valor......" 
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Dude...I've never said you were not officer,
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Your behavior at time is hard to unterstand that you are leadership material because it is so childish.
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If in fact you served I salute you for your service.
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'Your humble serverant, Mack

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razoo » 27 Aug 2023, 12:10 am » wrote: J. Michael Luttig and Laurence Tribe make the case for Trump’s disqualification from public office

In a new article for The Atlantic, retired former federal judge J. Michael Luttig and top legal scholar Laurence Tribe make the case that the Constitution includes a provision that disqualifies Donald Trump from holding public office again.

Section Three of the Fourteenth Amendment is also known as the “disqualification clause.” It’s only two sentences long but it could doom Trump’s bid to return to the White House.

The disqualification clause “forbids the former president from holding the office of the presidency again because of his conduct in and around January 6, 2021,” says Judge Luttig.

And as Tribe points out, it’s not a sanction against an individual. “The framers of the 14th Amendment took great care not to treat this as a punishment … Nobody has a right to be president without meeting the qualifications.”

https://www.msnbc.com/ali-velshi/watch/ ... 1177797850
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neueregel » 27 Aug 2023, 7:42 am » wrote: The Dems have gone to great lengths to sabotage the candidacy of an easily beatable person. 🤷‍♂️

what charge is made up.  based on nothing? 
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MackTheFinger » 10 Sep 2023, 4:31 pm » wrote: .
Dude...I've never said you were not officer,
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Your behavior at time is hard to unterstand that you are leadership material because it is so childish.
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If in fact you served I salute you for your service.
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'Your humble serverant[sic], Mack

(that is how they sighed DFs during the Civil War.
nice dodge.  What about convictions not being mentioned in 14A, *** clown?

what the **** is a "serverant"?

and how does one "sigh a DF"?

and what is a DF anyway, you **** illiterate moron?
 
 
 
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maineman » 10 Sep 2023, 6:20 pm » wrote: nice dodge.  What about convictions not being mentioned in 14A, *** clown?

what the **** is a "serverant"?

and how does one "sigh a DF"?

and what is a DF anyway, you **** illiterate moron?
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Mack to MainVain: Your behavior at time is hard to unterstand that you are leadership material because it is so childish.
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 Mack: serverant

MainVain:  "serverant"? Nah Nah Naha you spelled a word wrong.

Mack posted: (that is how they sighed DFs during the Civil War.

If there were ever a best seller for closures that survived the centuries, Macauley said, it would have to be: “Your most obedient and most humble servant,” as used by Thomas Jefferson to the newly elected President, George Washington.

You are a Major and don't know what a DF is ?  It is a  Disputation Forum in which all correspondence are sent by hard copy.

(aka administrative publications.)
 

BTW: Those cyber dickhead lessons you are taking sure are paying off.

 
 
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MackTheFinger » 11 Sep 2023, 2:41 am » wrote: .
Mack to MainVain: Your behavior at time is hard to unterstand that you are leadership material because it is so childish.
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 Mack: serverant

MainVain:  "serverant"? Nah Nah Naha you spelled a word wrong.

Mack posted: (that is how they sighed DFs during the Civil War.

If there were ever a best seller for closures that survived the centuries, Macauley said, it would have to be: “Your most obedient and most humble servant,” as used by Thomas Jefferson to the newly elected President, George Washington.

You are a Major and don't know what a DF is ?  It is a  Disputation Forum in which all correspondence are sent by hard copy.

(aka administrative publications.)
 

BTW: Those cyber dickhead lessons you are taking sure are paying off.
It's not merely your horrid spelling.  It is the fact that it makes your sentences unintelligible.  "Disputation Forum" may very well be some arcane Army acronym but I never saw it once in my 25 years in the Navy.  SO... when you say that SERVERANT [sic] is how people SIGHED [sic] a DF in the Civil War, you might be able to understand how folks could be a bit confused as to what the **** that sentence was actually trying to say.   I am trying to picture something or someone called a serverant taking a deep breath and dramatically exhaling onto something called a "DF", whatever that is.  I am sure that is not what you had in mind.

Also...I wasn't a Major.   You should know that there are no Majors in the Navy.  The Navy equivalent of a Major is a Lieutenant Commander.  I'm not one of those either. :D  

And after spending years calling me a liar, you really shouldn't be surprised if I treat you with some diminished sense of cordiality.  Get used to it, asshole.  You've earned it.
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maineman » 10 Sep 2023, 10:15 am » wrote: I dunno... you'd think if Trump really had proof of voter fraud being RAMPANT in Georgia, he would have produced it LONG before now.  Just think how that might have turned the tide of the fizzled red tsunami in 2022.   Image
Consider the fact that Trump and his team tried desperately to provide that evidence in court but his cases were dismissed EVERY TIME!  It was NOT a case of those courts "rejecting" his evidence, (like every dumb liberal claimed) it was simply the fact that the courts refused to hear it.

Now, thanks to the idiot prosecutor, Trump can produce every scrap of evidence he has of voter fraud in photos, videos, documentation, and eye witness testimony, and all he needs to show is just a few examples to justify the reasons his claims of fraud were totally valid.  

And when it's proven in court, what do you think will be the resulting action by enraged voters and every Trump supporter?  He'll probably clear $10 million a day in new campaign contributions!

Then, consider the backlash your scumbag diaper boy will suffer through over the next year!
 
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Zeets2 » 11 Sep 2023, 7:49 am » wrote: Consider the fact that Trump and his team tried desperately to provide that evidence in court but his cases were dismissed EVERY TIME!  It was NOT a case of those courts "rejecting" his evidence, (like every dumb liberal claimed) it was simply the fact that the courts refused to hear it.

Now, thanks to the idiot prosecutor, Trump can produce every scrap of evidence he has of voter fraud in photos, videos, documentation, and eye witness testimony, and all he needs to show is just a few examples to justify the reasons his claims of fraud were totally valid.  

And when it's proven in court, what do you think will be the resulting action by enraged voters and every Trump supporter?  He'll probably clear $10 million a day in new campaign contributions!

Then, consider the backlash your scumbag diaper boy will suffer through over the next year!
Unproven allegations are not evidence.  the reason Rudy could stand up in front of Four Seasons Landscaping and claim to have four binders full of evidence of voter fraud was because, in that capacity, he was a campaign spokesman for Trump.  As a lawyer, the rules of ethics, and evidence forbid him from doing so in a court of law if he knew there was no real "evidence" to present.  

And you think that a photo of someone putting a ballot in a ballot box - or a video even - is proof that the ballot being inserted was FRAUDULENT? :rofl:   :rofl:   :rofl:   :rofl:   :rofl:   :rofl:   :rofl:   :rofl:  

 
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