J. Michael Luttig and Laurence Tribe make the case for Trump’s disqualification from public office

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27 Aug 2023 12:10 am in No Holds Barred Political Forum
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maineman » 12 Sep 2023, 8:48 am » wrote: Those prosecutors didn't seem to have too much difficulty convicting all the J6 Proud Boys and Oath Keepers now rotting away in prison.  

It was an act of rebellion against the CONSTITUTION, in specific Article 2, Section 1, Clause 4.

THEY WERE NOT FAIR TRIALS... ALL **** COCKSUCKING LIBERAL DA'S AND JUDGES.... JUST LIKE YOUR DAUGHTER
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maineman » 12 Sep 2023, 8:48 am » wrote: Those prosecutors didn't seem to have too much difficulty convicting all the J6 Proud Boys and Oath Keepers now rotting away in prison.  

It was an act of rebellion against the CONSTITUTION, in specific Article 2, Section 1, Clause 4.
So then why are you afraid to answer the question?

WHY DID NANCY PELOSI REFUSE THE ADDITIONAL SECURITY GUARDS THAT TRUMP OFFERED HER REPEATEDLY?
AND WHY WAS SHE NEVER FORCED TO TESTIFY UNDER OATH BY THE COMMITTEE DESPITE BEING RESPONSIBLE FOR THE SECURITY OF THE CAPITOL?
 
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Zeets2 » 12 Sep 2023, 9:00 am » wrote: So then why are you afraid to answer the question?

WHY DID NANCY PELOSI REFUSE THE ADDITIONAL SECURITY GUARDS THAT TRUMP OFFERED HER REPEATEDLY?
AND WHY WAS SHE NEVER FORCED TO TESTIFY UNDER OATH BY THE COMMITTEE DESPITE BEING RESPONSIBLE FOR THE SECURITY OF THE CAPITOL?
Nancy rarely confides in me much anymore.  I think you should ask her.

https://apnews.com/article/fact-checking-235651652542

https://thedispatch.com/article/fact-ch ... january-6/
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12 Sep 2023 10:10 am
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No, I think THE BIASED, CORRUPT, KANGAROO COURT that your Democrat Trump-haters ran should have demanded answers from her!

And the question your pointless links tried to obfuscate is NOT that Pelosi can't order the NG security troops on her own, the question is WHY DID SHE REFUSE TRUMP'S OFFER TO PROVIDE THEM, when SHE ALONE is responsible for the security and safety of the Capitol and the Congressmen and staff there!

But when liberals can't answer a valid question, they choose instead to reshape the question into some irrelevant **** that they CAN answer, knowing full well that the fawning liberal media will accept that **** and act as if the question is resolved.

It's complete ****, and you no only know it, but your happy to swallow it and then ask for another helping!
 
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that mean you're off the pay roll?
I guess they actually looked at the forum and decided their value was elsewhere.
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Zeets2 » 12 Sep 2023, 10:10 am » wrote: 1.  No, I think THE BIASED, CORRUPT, KANGAROO COURT that your Democrat Trump-haters ran should have demanded answers from her!

2.  And the question your pointless links tried to obfuscate is NOT that Pelosi can't order the NG security troops on her own, the question is WHY DID SHE REFUSE TRUMP'S OFFER TO PROVIDE THEM, when SHE ALONE is responsible for the security and safety of the Capitol and the Congressmen and staff there!

3.  But when liberals can't answer a valid question, they choose instead to reshape the question into some irrelevant **** that they CAN answer, knowing full well that the fawning liberal media will accept that **** and act as if the question is resolved.

4.  It's complete ****, and you no [sic]only know it, but your [sic]happy to swallow it and then ask for another helping!
1.  Cool opinion.  My opinion:  I think you are a koolaid soaked moron.
2.  My links suggest that Trump's supposed offer is anecdotal ****, but we know you eat that stuff up.  And, by the way,  Pelosi shared responsibility with the Senate Majority Leader - McConnell at the time.
3.  I've answered it.
4.  I know nothing of the sort.  I was appalled by what happened on January 6th and am disgusted by people like you who CLAIM to be Americans who minimize the frightening implications of that day.
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sunburn » 12 Sep 2023, 10:13 am » wrote: that mean you're off the pay roll?
I guess they actually looked at the forum and decided their value was elsewhere.
Uncle Sugar pays maineman the sailorman quite handsomely, thank you very much! ;)  
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12 Sep 2023 10:47 am
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Knock Trump off the ballot and our journey to becoming a socialist banana republic will be complete.
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12 Sep 2023 10:58 am
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Neo » 12 Sep 2023, 10:47 am » wrote: Knock Trump off the ballot and our journey to becoming a socialist banana republic will be complete.
Typical Trump worshipper stating misinformation and lies = the USA will never be a banana republic ....never
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12 Sep 2023 11:09 am
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What are some examples of banana republics?

Examples of modern-day banana republics may include:

Bangladesh.

Brazil.

Botswana.

Chile.

Costa Rica.

Guatemala.

Haiti.

Honduras.

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What Is a Banana Republic? Explanation and Examples
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The USA will never qualify but we must keep the fascist fake republicans out of office.....they represent 3rd world dictatorship thinking the actual BIG GOVERNMENT.
 
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razoo » 12 Sep 2023, 10:58 am » wrote: Typical Trump worshipper stating misinformation and lies = the USA will never be a banana republic ....never
It will achieve the Banana republic when your one sided mentality finishes taking intellectual control over natural time evolving forward now. when organized doubt is always believed a greater good scenario by 99% actual population instead of 1% governing tomorrows today.

Genetics divide ancestors by generation gap achieved after birth, intellect ranks a person by their fellowship ignoring now is eternity.

Everyone knows you practice character projection rights to pretend you are more than ancestrally here. A gift from a higher power than specific gravity balancing the universe as displaced evolving forward here now never duplicated a same result twice outside shared event horizons occupying space now conceived to decomposed individually here expanding from original form contracting when eroding or decomposing from final shape.

What was your original form when arrived your ancestral sole time until your intellectual soul departs?
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NO one has any hard evidence fo voter fraud because there is no significant activity///////.........

Remember the Trump agenda, MAGA agenda, ALEC agenda and platforms are based on lies ............ the most reliable sources of lies lies lies and misinformation.........

Meet the libertarian party pretending to represent the republican party = liars of the century!

http://www.pfaw.org/rww-in-focus/alec-t ... ures#Voter

https://www.rightwingwatch.org
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maineman » 12 Sep 2023, 10:27 am » wrote: Uncle Sugar pays maineman the sailorman quite handsomely, thank you very much! Image

Sir,
Why won't maineman converse with River-Rat Tai-Dog ??
Easy.
Mentally, intellectually, physically, psychologically,
emotionally.........maineman is......"out-gunned".                      
:)  
@Z09  
@sooted up Cyndi  
https://youtu.be/a3XiYw1z4_Q?si=qAyse3XgKxvtKYc9

 
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MackTheFinger » 10 Sep 2023, 9:45 am » wrote: .
Did it mention anything about a conviction ?
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razoo » 12 Sep 2023, 11:13 am » wrote: NO one has any hard evidence fo voter fraud because there is no significant activity///////.........

Remember the Trump agenda, MAGA agenda, ALEC agenda and platforms are based on lies ............ the most reliable sources of lies lies lies and misinformation.........

Meet the libertarian party pretending to represent the republican party = liars of the century!

http://www.pfaw.org/rww-in-focus/alec-t ... ures#Voter

https://www.rightwingwatch.org

I am a Libertarian.

Anytime.......anywhere.........dear-heart.           
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razoo » 12 Sep 2023, 11:13 am » wrote: NO one has any hard evidence fo voter fraud because there is no significant activity///////.........
Watch how I debunk the two sides, 3 people mentioned in the title of this thread. I will still vote for Trump if he is on the ballot as the lesser of evils live.

How instinctive honesty screws every intellectual soul combined with a **** you attitude. Don't get M.A.D., get balancing with why one exists naturally here.

Time doesn't take sides adapting to space mutually evolving forward now. Facts are distorted ways to interpret time beyond mutually occupying space now. Self evident time displaced as performing either ancestrally timed apart or role playing anything else is [possible corrupting every last generation forward repeating history of the 4 previous generations lived so far.

Circumstantial evidence by how technology operates data collection from manipulated programmed software. You worship the concept of anything is possible in an ever expanding universe, but what is reasonable doubt designed for to begin with?

Prevent ancestors from recognizing the universe is perpetually balancing arriving details never same contracting results twice. Simple compounding results mutually reacting within space timed apart now as individually here a combination of gaseous, liquid, mineral molecular elements eroding into combinations of chromosomes of organic life reproductively sustaining an active ancestral lineages present, one at a time.

Oh the third thing, results ignoring how and why they arrived in specificity of being alive now.

4th dimension of everything absolutely corrupted. 5 generations thick 5 races combined each generation here playing 6 degrees of separation living the 7th central balancing time present thinking outside an 8 cornered cube ideology to a specific universe atmosphere, honoring 9 gates of eternal hell operating by 10 ways to ignore now is eternity.

What is your reality based upon?

1. two sides to any story,
2. another 2 sides to any conflict,
3. 2 sides of morality,
4. 2 sides of legality,
5. 2 sides of ethics,
6. debating one side or another,
7. one topic, 1 issue at a time.
8. nobody knew
9. truth to hope, faith, charity, power, wealth, fame cradle to grave as historically recorded by those sustaining reasonable doubt.
10. means, motives, methods, economic power of suggestion, mayhem, madness, misery brought down on anyone not complying to the what people will do when someone doesn't obey possibilities eternal separation happens from beyond the moment here.

Score of humanity's successes any dictatorship or democracy lasted more than 6 generation gaps without a complete reinterpretation of their national interests. 0 to how many generations are still denying now is eternity 5. 5 primary races in this species in this atmosphere 8 billion sole displacements cancelling each other out following orders from a royal we say so chain of command in how many countries in this atmosphere? How many religions?
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maineman » 12 Sep 2023, 10:26 am » wrote: 1.  Cool opinion.  My opinion:  I think you are a koolaid soaked moron.
2.  My links suggest that Trump's supposed offer is anecdotal ****, but we know you eat that stuff up.  And, by the way,  Pelosi shared responsibility with the Senate Majority Leader - McConnell at the time.
3.  I've answered it.
4.  I know nothing of the sort.  I was appalled by what happened on January 6th and am disgusted by people like you who CLAIM to be Americans who minimize the frightening implications of that day.
Oh, I see!  It's "****" that Pelosi failed in her responsibility to safeguard the Capitol, but you stupidly believe it was Trump's fault EVEN THOUGH he offered her 10,000 NG security guards for the day which she refused to take.
And even though the security of the Capitol ALSO falls on the shoulders of each of the House and Senate Sargents at Arms, PELOSI IS THE ONE WHO MULTIPLE TIMES REFUSED TO GO ALONG WITH THEIR RECOMMENDATONS!

You were "appalled", huh?
Were you equally appalled when rioters attacked the Trump White House in May of 2020 that forced Trump into his secure bunker?  How was that any different than the Jan 6th riot, when that encompassed at least 10 cities additionally rioting, leading to the arrest of over 9300 people and went on for months, and over 200 who set fires, attacked police, and threw rocks and bottles that injured dozens of police at the Capitol in a weekend of BLM and Antifa riots, NONE WHO WERE EVER EVEN CHARGED WITH A CRIME, but instead had all their charges dropped?

Nah, that didn't bother you in the slightest, did it?  I'll bet you were one of the idiots cheering them on then, weren't you?
We know when something doesn't fit your "Hate Trump" narrative, ignorant assholes like you will ALWAYS ignore it, then work studiously to spin the story to fit your liking!
 
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Zeets2 » 12 Sep 2023, 11:52 am » wrote: Oh, I see!  It's "****" that Pelosi failed in her responsibility to safeguard the Capitol, but you stupidly believe it was Trump's fault EVEN THOUGH he offered her 10,000 NG security guards for the day which she refused to take.
And even though the security of the Capitol ALSO falls on the shoulders of each of the House and Senate Sargents at Arms, PELOSI IS THE ONE WHO MULTIPLE TIMES REFUSED TO GO ALONG WITH THEIR RECOMMENDATONS!

You were "appalled", huh?
Were you equally appalled when rioters attacked the Trump White House in May of 2020 that forced Trump into his secure bunker?  How was that any different than the Jan 6th riot, when that encompassed at least 10 cities additionally rioting, leading to the arrest of over 9300 people and went on for months, and over 200 who set fires, attacked police, and threw rocks and bottles that injured dozens of police at the Capitol in a weekend of BLM and Antifa riots, NONE WHO WERE EVER EVEN CHARGED WITH A CRIME, but instead had all their charges dropped?

Nah, that didn't bother you in the slightest, did it?  I'll bet you were one of the idiots cheering them on then, weren't you?
We know when something doesn't fit your "Hate Trump" narrative, ignorant assholes like you will ALWAYS ignore it, then work studiously to spin the story to fit your liking!
Reread my reply #2. I think the story about Trump offering 10K troops and being denied by Pelosi is anecdotal, unsubstantiated **** and my links alluded to that fact.  And, regardless, McConnell bore equal responsibility for Capitol security.

https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2 ... ization-2/

BLM demonstrations differed from 1/6/21 in one significant way:  The latter was a rebellion intent on disrupting the constitutionally mandated certification of the Electoral College results.  The former was not trying to attack the Constitution or to overthrow the government.

And all rioting disturbs me.  ANYONE who resorts to violence should be held criminally liable.  I wonder why Trump's DOJ did not do so for the perpetrators of the BLM riots, don't you?
 
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12 Sep 2023 12:30 pm
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razoo » 12 Sep 2023, 10:58 am » wrote: Typical Trump worshipper stating misinformation and lies = the USA will never be a banana republic ....never
Questionable election integrity. Both sides dispute the results of elections. 

Persecution of political rivals using the criminal justice system. 

Incendiary rhetoric labeling rivals as subhuman. 

We are closer than you think. 


 
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maineman » 12 Sep 2023, 12:08 pm » wrote: Reread my reply #2. I think the story about Trump offering 10K troops and being denied by Pelosi is anecdotal, unsubstantiated **** and my links alluded to that fact.  And, regardless, McConnell bore equal responsibility for Capitol security.

https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2 ... ization-2/

BLM demonstrations differed from 1/6/21 in one significant way:  The latter was a rebellion intent on disrupting the constitutionally mandated certification of the Electoral College results.  The former was not trying to attack the Constitution or to overthrow the government.

And all rioting disturbs me.  ANYONE who resorts to violence should be held criminally liable.  I wonder why Trump's DOJ did not do so for the perpetrators of the BLM riots, don't you?
How many blm riots interfered with government business functions? I know city blocks were occupied, justice centers fire bombed. Government business was halted or interrupted on literally hundreds of occasions. Not one suggestion of insurrection or sedition or interference with government business for blm. We don't have royalty. Congress is no more sacred than a local justice center or a small business auto repair shop. Neither should be attacked by rioters, the penalties should be equal. 
 
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