Are there anymore classical liberals left in America?

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By Vegas
29 Aug 2023 9:27 am in No Holds Barred Political Forum
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29 Aug 2023 9:27 am
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Or have they all turned progressive? 

I always respected classical liberals. They knew their ****. They defended individual rights while not stomping on the rights of others. They weren't nutjobs. All I see now are progressives. They defend individual rights and couldn't care less whose rights they stomp on while doing it. They can't just defend a person's right to be a tranny. They have to carry it further by allowing them to violate a woman's privacy, influence kids to turn, and enter women sports. All tramples on the rights of others and they couldn't care less. A real liberal would have just stopped at their right to be a tranny, and leave it at that. They would never defend this ****. 
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Sumela
29 Aug 2023 9:39 am
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Vegas » 29 Aug 2023, 9:27 am » wrote: Or have they all turned progressive? 

I always respected classical liberals. They knew their ****. They defended individual rights while not stomping on the rights of others. They weren't nutjobs. All I see now are progressives. They defend individual rights and couldn't care less whose rights they stomp on while doing it. They can't just defend a person's right to be a tranny. They have to carry it further by allowing them to violate a woman's privacy, influence kids to turn, and enter women sports. All tramples on the rights of others and they couldn't care less. A real liberal would have just stopped at their right to be a tranny, and leave it at that. They would never defend this ****.
MrKelly appears to be quite a sensible liberal
 
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29 Aug 2023 9:41 am
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Mom, 83, isn't having anything to do do with the new Democrat party after a lifetime of voting for them.
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29 Aug 2023 9:47 am
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Sumela » 29 Aug 2023, 9:39 am » wrote: MrKelly appears to be quite a sensible liberal
I was going to say the same...

There are still a few sensible libs left around... not many, but a few.

People like Bill Maher are what I would call a classic liberal... and Alan Colmes when he was still around.
Jimmy Dore too.

Hannity and Colmes was a great show. Hannity by himself, not so much.
 
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RedheadedStranger » 29 Aug 2023, 9:47 am » wrote: I was going to say the same...

There are still a few sensible libs left around... not many, but a few.

People like Bill Maher are what I would call a classic liberal... and Alan Colmes when he was still around.
Jimmy Dore too.

Hannity and Colmes was a great show. Hannity by himself, not so much.
Hannity kept interrupting Vivek last night very annoying 
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29 Aug 2023 9:57 am
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RedheadedStranger » 29 Aug 2023, 9:47 am » wrote: I was going to say the same...

There are still a few sensible libs left around... not many, but a few.

People like Bill Maher are what I would call a classic liberal... and Alan Colmes when he was still around.
Jimmy Dore too.

Hannity and Colmes was a great show. Hannity by himself, not so much.
True, Jimmy Dore is solid and sensible.
I disagree with Maher, but he at least seems to be a reasonable human being.
 
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29 Aug 2023 10:07 am
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Sumela » 29 Aug 2023, 9:57 am » wrote: True, Jimmy Dore is solid and sensible.
I disagree with Maher, but he at least seems to be a reasonable human being.
Maher is about as left as a liberal can be, but he is reasonable and has common sense... which is what the vast majority of the progressive left is lacking these days.

Maher tends to practice what he preaches too, which is pretty uncommon from those on the left as well. 
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Sumela » 29 Aug 2023, 9:39 am » wrote: MrKelly appears to be quite a sensible liberal

Sometimes, but I wouldn't say he is a real liberal. 
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29 Aug 2023 10:45 am
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Vegas » 29 Aug 2023, 10:29 am » wrote: Sometimes, but I wouldn't say he is a real liberal.
How so?
 
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29 Aug 2023 10:56 am
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My memory is vague, but I know he says some stupid ****. I'll tag you when he does it again. 
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29 Aug 2023 11:02 am
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Alan Dershowitz comes to mind and he’s walked the talk.

They are an exceedingly rare breed, and getting all the more rare by the minute.
 
 
 
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29 Aug 2023 11:19 am
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Liberal hate themselves so much they want to get out of their bodies and change. LOL. It's not possible but got ahead and cut your **** off FREAKJOBS. You should hate yourself, you are assholes.
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29 Aug 2023 11:20 am
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We read about no rain clouds on the Thursday night of April 2 33 AD.

Mary Magadeline washed his feet with previous oils and he shut down Judas for giving her grief over it.

Christ had his Last Supper, then went to the Garden Alone.

https://youtu.be/DAhsVqbV3pg?si=GXzZPt2m2m6oWvDP

What is so tragic, wrong, and regrettable is all the souls who know the story behind how classical liberalism originated are now completely in charge of all the messaging for our champion Joseph  R. Biden.

Christ died so we might live free, unburdened by religious based legal codes that led to His Crucifixion.

And if we fail, the darker angels of Trumpism will plunge this nation into darkness for a season, until once again classical liberalism triumphs.
 

https://youtu.be/grxjfUH6-Lw?si=aO0Hr7sDJmFlqYBv
 
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sooted up Cyndi
29 Aug 2023 11:39 am
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Do you guys remember when liberals were against big bidness?
Now they cheer it on as long as its shutting up the other side. Censorship. The woodstock hippies are gone!
Everything that was ok about them- has been destroyed.
They better start speaking up- if they're out there! or their party is toast.
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29 Aug 2023 11:41 am
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Bruce » 29 Aug 2023, 11:20 am » wrote: We read about no rain clouds on the Thursday night of April 2 33 AD.

Mary Magadeline washed his feet with previous oils and he shut down Judas for giving her grief over it.

Christ had his Last Supper, then went to the Garden Alone.

https://youtu.be/DAhsVqbV3pg?si=GXzZPt2m2m6oWvDP

What is so tragic, wrong, and regrettable is all the souls who know the story behind how classical liberalism originated are now completely in charge of all the messaging for our champion Joseph  R. Biden.

Christ died so we might live free, unburdened by religious based legal codes that led to His Crucifixion.

And if we fail, the darker angels of Trumpism will plunge this nation into darkness for a season, until once again classical liberalism triumphs.
 

https://youtu.be/grxjfUH6-Lw?si=aO0Hr7sDJmFlqYBv
 
hey! what changes between political might and spiritual right for a plural minority to control how the majority of a population navigate space mutually evolving at the same time occupying the moment here as specific lifetimes present doing whatever they believe possible instead of understanding the universal constant that doesn't change anything believed in good faith life exceeds evolving here now since arriving a replacement for one's previous generation gaps left living here, now spontaneously inhabiting space simultaneously evolving individually here until not any more at the specific event of dead equal to time arrived when conceived.

body still exists in death just reversing the adapting done since arrival. Decomposition is erosion in chromosomes lived to date one reproduction at a time of all reproductions alive.

You demand accountability for each alternate reality imagined into historical fruition, here it is regardless which reality you want to compare against the species itself as a whole population evolving one at a time as usual.

Usual suspects misleading everyone believing life exceeds space here.
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sooted up Cyndi
29 Aug 2023 11:41 am
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They have become the party of- kiss arss the gubmint!
not the liberals i used to know!
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29 Aug 2023 11:52 am
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Vegas » 29 Aug 2023, 10:56 am » wrote: My memory is vague, but I know he says some stupid ****. I'll tag you when he does it again.
All is good brother :wave:  
 
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29 Aug 2023 12:16 pm
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sootedupCyndi » 29 Aug 2023, 11:39 am » wrote: The woodstock hippies are gone!

 
They were abject frauds.

The sooner the rest of those cowards die off the better.
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Bruce
29 Aug 2023 12:22 pm
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sootedupCyndi » 29 Aug 2023, 11:39 am » wrote: Do you guys remember when liberals were against big bidness?
Now they cheer it on as long as its shutting up the other side. Censorship. The woodstock hippies are gone!
Everything that was ok about them- has been destroyed.
They better start speaking up- if they're out there! or their party is toast.
My secret girlfriend and former waitress in a small cafe Elizabeth Warren is a Capitalist to her bones!

https://youtu.be/DLNUumXPrLY?si=0z34oTFwTaIHbtso

Once upon a time in 1975 any time I wanted a double cheeseburger from the restaurant at the Cattleman Auction  when I was covered head to toe in cow **** running the back pens,  there was this pretty lady in the main office about my mother’s age above me high on the buyer’s  promenade.

My friend JC is fifteen years older than me.

He loves telling my daughter about how when I was 17 all I had to do, was make a signal to the head office and a pretty little waitress from the cafe would deliver me a double cheeseburger and a Pepsi wading through the cow **** in her high heels, and I’d tip that girl and toast JC with my Pepsi, and never miss one cow or bull out of the auction ring that needed penned.

Amd when he tells that I’ll always say I was admiring your hundred dollar Stetson, JC.Image

Which is another story he tells my daughter about me and the sale barn waitress, in the Cowboy Shop.Image

Sone of us were born and raised to always respect a poor girl waiting tables.

All of our lives.

https://youtu.be/8oGXj5L5IRs?si=RyVAMUmEl0o1-IRw

 
 
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29 Aug 2023 12:42 pm
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sootedupCyndi » 29 Aug 2023, 11:39 am » wrote: Do you guys remember when liberals were against big bidness?
Now they cheer it on as long as its shutting up the other side. Censorship. The woodstock hippies are gone!
Everything that was ok about them- has been destroyed.
They better start speaking up- if they're out there! or their party is toast.
Woodstock hippies are either dead, or in lockdown memory wards because all those drugs they did gave them early onset alzheimer's.Image
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