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And there goes your "conspiracy" and "racketeering" charges RIGHT DOWN THE TOILET!!

Watch how FAST this entire **** CASE gets tossed in COURT!! A PROSECUTOR cannot withhold EXCULPATORY EVIDENCE FROM A GRAND JURY JUST TO GET AN INDICTMENT, ****!! And this PROVES no crimes were committed or even CONSPIRED TO COMMIT!!

                       
Fulton County District Attorney Fani Willis possesses evidence that exonerates several Republicans she’s targeting in her legal crusade against former President Donald Trump and other Republicans for their lawful contesting of Georgia’s flawed 2020 election.

 In her Aug. 14 indictment, Willis alleged the existence of Republican electors for Trump constituted an unlawful “conspiracy” to overturn the Peach State’s 2020 election results. Among those charged for partaking in this so-called “conspiracy” are David Shafer, one of Georgia’s 2020 Republican electors, and Ray Smith, who served as one of Trump’s lawyers at the time of the contest.

 Specifically, Willis claimed Shafer and the other alternate electors “unlawfully falsely held themselves out” as Georgia’s “duly elected and qualified” presidential electors. She further insisted these electors — with Smith’s assistance — intentionally attempted to “mislead” figures such as then-Vice President Mike Pence and Georgia Secretary of State Brad Raffensberger “into believing that they actually were such officers.”

 However, among the documents Willis obtained during her years-long investigation of Republicans was a meeting transcript refuting her allegations.

 A transcript of the Georgia Republican electors’ Dec. 14, 2020, meeting, obtained by The Federalist, explicitly shows the intent behind casting alternate electors was not to impersonate public officers, as Willis alleged, but to lawfully preserve Trump’s legal challenge to the state’s election results. At the meeting’s outset, Shafer specifically noted how he and his fellow Republicans were acting as “Republican nominees for Presidential Elector,” not as “duly elected and qualified” presidential electors.

 “[President Trump] has filed a contest to the certified returns. That contest — is pending [and has] not been decided or even heard by any judge with the authority to hear it,” Shafer said. “And so in order to preserve his rights, it’s important that the Republican nominees for Presidential Elector meet here today and cast their votes.”

 For context, Shafer and Trump filed a lawsuit against Secretary of State Raffensberger in Fulton County state court on Dec. 4, 2020, alleging tens of thousands of illegal votes had been cast in the state’s presidential election. The suit came after a recount, requested by Trump, deemed Biden the winner of Georgia’s 16 electoral votes by a margin of 11,779. The recount prompted Raffensberger to recertify the election on Dec. 7 while Trump’s legal challenge remained ongoing.

 By the time Dec. 14, 2020, arrived — the day on which nominees for presidential electors are required by federal law to meet — Trump and Shafer’s lawsuit was still pending. As such, Georgia’s Republican nominees, including Shafer, cast their electoral votes for Trump while the state’s Democrat nominees cast theirs for Biden.

 
 

During the Dec. 14, 2020, meeting, Shafer further clarified the legal rationale for filing alternate electors in a conversation with Smith, asking Trump’s then-lawyer: “And so the only way for us to have any judge consider the merits of our complaint, the thousands of people we allege voted unlawfully, is for us to have this meeting and permit the contest to continue?”

“That’s correct,” Smith replied.

The naming of contingent Republican electors during the 2020 election closely mirrors efforts taken during the 1960 presidential contest between John F. Kennedy and Richard Nixon. As The Federalist’s Margot Cleveland previously reported, a dispute over who won Hawaii’s electoral votes prompted both Kennedy and Nixon electors to cast their votes for their respective candidates. While Hawaii’s acting Republican governor initially certified the election for Nixon, a legal challenge and subsequent court decision resulted in the state’s electoral votes being awarded to Kennedy.

Unlike Kennedy, Trump never had his day in court over his legal challenges to those votes and others, but had the court ruled in Trump’s favor, the alternative electors would have been in place to ensure the will of the Georgia people was exercised.

While speaking to Shafer and the other Republican electors at the Dec. 14, 2020, meeting, Smith asserted the naming of Republican electors for Trump would be conducted “in accordance with the Constitution” and the precedent established in the 1960 Hawaii case, saying, “We’re conducting this because the contest of the election in Georgia is ongoing.”

“And if we did not hold this meeting, then our election contest would effectively be abandoned?” Shafer asked, to which Smith replied, “That’s correct.”

The revelations unearthed in the transcript raise a significant question: If Willis was in possession of the transcript prior to Aug. 14, why did she charge Shafer and Smith for allegedly partaking in a “conspiracy” to overturn Georgia’s 2020 election results when the aforementioned document shows otherwise?
 

Interesting...

It's not a coincidence the Democrat Party has put the descendant of a slave in position to be sacrificed, it's a time honored tradition for the plantation owners. It's the very same plan they used with Clyburn chairing the fake 1/6 Select Committee.

THEY GOT HIM NOW!!

There is evidence revealing the fake electors .......... they were breaking the law willfully and knowingly. All voting fraudsters/suppressors go directly to jail......no get out of jail free cards.

In light of of a person with presidential back ground who just keeps breaking laws over and above those producing indictments is it possible to consider "bundling" some similar casesin an effort to prevent this apparent criminal not getting prosecuted for each broken law? Wealthy law breakers must be taught money cannot buy criminal behavior.


Breaking laws over and above those producing indictments is unusual behavior to say the least. Shouldn't this behavior be met with unusual force to prevent such actions in the future? It appears to me that the former president does not give a damn and continues to interfere with prosecution and the investigation anyway possible.


This is not a precedent we want on the books. The former president and his many cohorts in crime and must be dealt some serious responses from the courts!!!!!

Beekeeper » 01 Sep 2023, 11:37 am » wrote: ↑

01 Sep 2023, 11:37 am

And there goes your "conspiracy" and "racketeering" charges RIGHT DOWN THE TOILET!!

Watch how FAST this entire **** CASE gets tossed in COURT!! A PROSECUTOR cannot withhold EXCULPATORY EVIDENCE FROM A GRAND JURY JUST TO GET AN INDICTMENT, ****!! And this PROVES no crimes were committed or even CONSPIRED TO COMMIT!!

                       
Fulton County District Attorney Fani Willis possesses evidence that exonerates several Republicans she’s targeting in her legal crusade against former President Donald Trump and other Republicans for their lawful contesting of Georgia’s flawed 2020 election.

 In her Aug. 14 indictment, Willis alleged the existence of Republican electors for Trump constituted an unlawful “conspiracy” to overturn the Peach State’s 2020 election results. Among those charged for partaking in this so-called “conspiracy” are David Shafer, one of Georgia’s 2020 Republican electors, and Ray Smith, who served as one of Trump’s lawyers at the time of the contest.

 Specifically, Willis claimed Shafer and the other alternate electors “unlawfully falsely held themselves out” as Georgia’s “duly elected and qualified” presidential electors. She further insisted these electors — with Smith’s assistance — intentionally attempted to “mislead” figures such as then-Vice President Mike Pence and Georgia Secretary of State Brad Raffensberger “into believing that they actually were such officers.”

 However, among the documents Willis obtained during her years-long investigation of Republicans was a meeting transcript refuting her allegations.

 A transcript of the Georgia Republican electors’ Dec. 14, 2020, meeting, obtained by The Federalist, explicitly shows the intent behind casting alternate electors was not to impersonate public officers, as Willis alleged, but to lawfully preserve Trump’s legal challenge to the state’s election results. At the meeting’s outset, Shafer specifically noted how he and his fellow Republicans were acting as “Republican nominees for Presidential Elector,” not as “duly elected and qualified” presidential electors.

 “[President Trump] has filed a contest to the certified returns. That contest — is pending [and has] not been decided or even heard by any judge with the authority to hear it,” Shafer said. “And so in order to preserve his rights, it’s important that the Republican nominees for Presidential Elector meet here today and cast their votes.”

 

They were fraudulent electors or fake electors. The conspirators own emails state them as such. 

Cue the racism. 
 
 

razoo » 01 Sep 2023, 1:15 pm » wrote: ↑

01 Sep 2023, 1:15 pm

There is evidence revealing the fake electors .......... they were breaking the law willfully and knowingly. All voting fraudsters/suppressors go directly to jail......no get out of jail free cards.

In light of of a person with presidential back ground who just keeps breaking laws over and above those producing indictments is it possible to consider "bundling" some similar casesin an effort to prevent this apparent criminal not getting prosecuted for each broken law? Wealthy law breakers must be taught money cannot buy criminal behavior.

Breaking laws over and above those producing indictments is unusual behavior to say the least. Shouldn't this behavior be met with unusual force to prevent such actions in the future? It appears to me that the former president does not give a damn and continues to interfere with prosecution and the investigation anyway possible.

This is not a precedent we want on the books. The former president and his many cohorts in crime and must be dealt some serious responses from the courts!!!!!

What makes electors fake? Gore had them, Kennedy had them. No law against them.
 

razoo » 01 Sep 2023, 1:15 pm » wrote: ↑

01 Sep 2023, 1:15 pm

There is evidence revealing the fake electors .......... they were breaking the law willfully and knowingly. All voting fraudsters/suppressors go directly to jail......no get out of jail free cards.

In light of of a person with presidential back ground who just keeps breaking laws over and above those producing indictments is it possible to consider "bundling" some similar casesin an effort to prevent this apparent criminal not getting prosecuted for each broken law? Wealthy law breakers must be taught money cannot buy criminal behavior.

Breaking laws over and above those producing indictments is unusual behavior to say the least. Shouldn't this behavior be met with unusual force to prevent such actions in the future? It appears to me that the former president does not give a damn and continues to interfere with prosecution and the investigation anyway possible.

This is not a precedent we want on the books. The former president and his many cohorts in crime and must be dealt some serious responses from the courts!!!!!

lowIQtrash, is that you?

Pastafarian » 01 Sep 2023, 1:43 pm » wrote: ↑

01 Sep 2023, 1:43 pm

They were fraudulent electors or fake electors. The conspirators own emails state them as such. 

Cue the racism.

Got a link to said electors? Complete emails not taken out of context?

kinda makes you wonder when Trump could sue all of these leftist zealots for harassment.

sunburn » 01 Sep 2023, 1:52 pm » wrote: ↑

01 Sep 2023, 1:52 pm

kinda makes you wonder when Trump could sue all of these leftist zealots for harassment.

About the same time we get a DOJ not run by corrupt officials.

FredH » 01 Sep 2023, 1:56 pm » wrote: ↑

01 Sep 2023, 1:56 pm

About the same time we get a DOJ not run by corrupt officials.

the first of never, huh?

FredH » 01 Sep 2023, 1:46 pm » wrote: ↑

01 Sep 2023, 1:46 pm

Got a link to said electors? Complete emails not taken out of context?

“I must ask for your complete discretion in this process,” Sinners wrote. “Your duties are imperative to ensure the end result – a win in Georgia for President Trump – but will be hampered unless we have complete secrecy and discretion.”

“Please, at no point should you mention anything to do with Presidential Electors or speak to media,” Sinners wrote.

https://www.cnn.com/2022/06/06/politics ... index.html
 
https://www.politico.com/news/2023/08/2 ... t-00112932

Pastafarian » 01 Sep 2023, 2:06 pm » wrote: ↑

01 Sep 2023, 2:06 pm

“I must ask for your complete discretion in this process,” Sinners wrote. “Your duties are imperative to ensure the end result – a win in Georgia for President Trump – but will be hampered unless we have complete secrecy and discretion.”

“Please, at no point should you mention anything to do with Presidential Electors or speak to media,” Sinners wrote.

https://www.cnn.com/2022/06/06/politics ... index.html
 
https://www.politico.com/news/2023/08/2 ... t-00112932

**** lie

Pastafarian » 01 Sep 2023, 2:06 pm » wrote: ↑

01 Sep 2023, 2:06 pm

“I must ask for your complete discretion in this process,” Sinners wrote. “Your duties are imperative to ensure the end result – a win in Georgia for President Trump – but will be hampered unless we have complete secrecy and discretion.”

“Please, at no point should you mention anything to do with Presidential Electors or speak to media,” Sinners wrote.

https://www.cnn.com/2022/06/06/politics ... index.html
 
https://www.politico.com/news/2023/08/2 ... t-00112932
 

Why are these comments in question? Why should they speak to the media? Biden doesn't.
 

Pastafarian » 01 Sep 2023, 1:43 pm » wrote: ↑

01 Sep 2023, 1:43 pm

They were fraudulent electors or fake electors. The conspirators own emails state them as such. 

Cue the racism.

Nope. Even Fani the KNEEGROW persecutor KNEW that they were ALTERNATIVES that were in place SHOULD TRUMP'S COURT CASE PREVAIL!! AND was perfectly LEGAL TO ASSEMBLE!!

Suck on that one, since RACE is all you have in this one, boy!!

 

When do you suppose our resident leftards will grasp the fact that Biden is really using the DOJ and state prosecutors to interfere with a presidential election? Why is it they support a corrupt government. Corruption only has one side and it is not the leftard useless idiots they represent.

Beekeeper » 01 Sep 2023, 2:13 pm » wrote: ↑

01 Sep 2023, 2:13 pm

Nope. Even Fani the KNEEGROW persecutor KNEW that they were ALTERNATIVES that were in place SHOULD TRUMP'S COURT CASE PREVAIL!! AND was perfectly LEGAL TO ASSEMBLE!!

Suck on that one, since RACE is all you have in this one, boy!!

^^^cultists got to cult. 
 

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