Fani Willis Has Evidence Exonerating Georgia's Alternate Electors

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By Beekeeper
1 Sep 2023 11:39 am in No Holds Barred Political Forum
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1 Sep 2023 2:25 pm
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Interesting her lie, electors are not elected, they are selected.

Specifically, Willis claimed Shafer and the other alternate electors “unlawfully falsely held themselves out” as Georgia’s “duly elected and qualified” presidential electors. She further insisted these electors — with Smith’s assistance — intentionally attempted to “mislead” figures such as then-Vice President Mike Pence and Georgia Secretary of State Brad Raffensberger “into believing that they actually were such officers.”

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1 Sep 2023 2:42 pm
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Pastafarian » 01 Sep 2023, 2:06 pm » wrote: “I must ask for your complete discretion in this process,” Sinners wrote. “Your duties are imperative to ensure the end result – a win in Georgia for President Trump – but will be hampered unless we have complete secrecy and discretion.”

“Please, at no point should you mention anything to do with Presidential Electors or speak to media,” Sinners wrote.

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So what?? Is this a CRIME to not speak to or inform the MEDIA?? You are GRASPING AT STRAWS here, **** KNEEGROW and have NOTHING in this communication.

So what if the objective was for Trump to win?? Is that a CRIME?? IF YOU THINK SO, then SURELY you can find the STATUTE that makes it a crime!! OTHERWISE, you can considered your BLACK BOY *** KICKED MASSIVELY!!

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1 Sep 2023 2:47 pm
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Beekeeper » 01 Sep 2023, 2:42 pm » wrote: So what?? Is this a CRIME to not speak to or inform the MEDIA?? You are GRASPING AT STRAWS here, **** KNEEGROW and have NOTHING in this communication.

So what if the objective was for Trump to win?? Is that a CRIME?? IF YOU THINK SO, then SURELY you can find the STATUTE that makes it a crime!! OTHERWISE, you can considered your BLACK BOY *** KICKED MASSIVELY!!

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The more they post the epic level of stupidity grows exponentially.
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1 Sep 2023 2:52 pm
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Pastafarian » 01 Sep 2023, 2:18 pm » wrote: ^^^cultists got to cult.
WHO'S CULTING, besides your STUPID BLACK *** that thinks that POLITICAL DISCOURSE you don't agree with is a CRIME!!

Which is what your CULT LEADERS has BLOWN UP THAT BLACK BOY *** OF YOURS!!
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Beekeeper » 01 Sep 2023, 2:42 pm » wrote: So what?? Is this a CRIME to not speak to or inform the MEDIA?? You are GRASPING AT STRAWS here, **** KNEEGROW and have NOTHING in this communication.

So what if the objective was for Trump to win?? Is that a CRIME?? IF YOU THINK SO, then SURELY you can find the STATUTE that makes it a crime!! OTHERWISE, you can considered your BLACK BOY *** KICKED MASSIVELY!!

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ya it is a crime, you incestuous ***. 

 
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Beekeeper » 01 Sep 2023, 2:52 pm » wrote: WHO'S CULTING, besides your STUPID BLACK *** that thinks that POLITICAL DISCOURSE you don't agree with is a CRIME!!

Which is what your CULT LEADERS has BLOWN UP THAT BLACK BOY *** OF YOURS!!
^^^cultists got to cult
 
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Pastafarian » 01 Sep 2023, 3:10 pm » wrote: ya it is a crime, you incestuous ***.
Yes he is showcasing an epic level of stupidity, what dedication!
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FredH » 01 Sep 2023, 3:37 pm » wrote: Yes he is showcasing an epic level of stupidity, what dedication!
 
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FredH » 01 Sep 2023, 1:45 pm » wrote: What makes electors fake? Gore had them, Kennedy had them. No law against them.
You must eat BS for breakfast, lunch and dinner............... 
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Beekeeper » 01 Sep 2023, 11:37 am » wrote: And there goes your "conspiracy" and "racketeering" charges RIGHT DOWN THE TOILET!!

Watch how FAST this entire **** CASE gets tossed in COURT!! A PROSECUTOR cannot withhold EXCULPATORY EVIDENCE FROM A GRAND JURY JUST TO GET AN INDICTMENT, ****!! And this PROVES no crimes were committed or even CONSPIRED TO COMMIT!!

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Fulton County District Attorney Fani Willis possesses evidence that exonerates several Republicans she’s targeting in her legal crusade against former President Donald Trump and other Republicans for their lawful contesting of Georgia’s flawed 2020 election.

 In her Aug. 14 indictment, Willis alleged the existence of Republican electors for Trump constituted an unlawful “conspiracy” to overturn the Peach State’s 2020 election results. Among those charged for partaking in this so-called “conspiracy” are David Shafer, one of Georgia’s 2020 Republican electors, and Ray Smith, who served as one of Trump’s lawyers at the time of the contest.

 Specifically, Willis claimed Shafer and the other alternate electors “unlawfully falsely held themselves out” as Georgia’s “duly elected and qualified” presidential electors. She further insisted these electors — with Smith’s assistance — intentionally attempted to “mislead” figures such as then-Vice President Mike Pence and Georgia Secretary of State Brad Raffensberger “into believing that they actually were such officers.”

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At 11.30am on 14 December 2020, Greg Bluestein, a political reporter for the Atlanta Journal-Constitution, hurried into the Georgia state capitol at the start of what he knew would be a momentous day. He was one of a handful of reporters who were to witness the casting of electoral college votes which would officially hand Joe Biden victory in the critical battleground state – and with it the US presidency.As Bluestein rushed up to the state senate chamber where the 16 Democratic electors were assembling ahead of the historic vote, he passed meeting room 216. He noticed a gaggle of people milling around its heavy wooden door, among them some of the 16 Republican electors chosen to represent Donald Trump should he have won the Georgia race.The reporter was surprised. Trump had officially lost in Georgia by 11,779 votes, an outcome that had been confirmed by two recounts including a full hand tally of all ballots.
 
 
 
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Laurence Tribe, a constitutional law professor at Harvard, employed Chesebro as a research assistant some 20 years ago. He told the Guardian that his former aide was “smart enough to know full well that the scheme he helped cook up – a conspiracy for fake electors to gather and sign phony pro-Trump ballots on December 14 so as to buy Trump time – was anything but a ‘reasonable course of action’.”

Tribe added: “It was obviously and transparently illegal – indeed, it was manifestly criminal.”

The Guardian contacted Chesebro directly and through his lawyers, but received no response.

In a deposition with the January 6 committee in October 2022, Chesebro was asked to describe his role in the plan to have electors meet and cast electoral college votes for Trump in states he had lost. He declined to answer, pleading the fifth amendment.
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Pastafarian » 01 Sep 2023, 2:18 pm » wrote: ^^^cultists got to cult.
 And rant angrily! Image
 Beekeeper on a good day. 
 
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The dummy electors scheme is not looking good for the mango messiah.
Along with the phone call and other evidence he's looking at hard time.
What a shame.
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Squatchman » 02 Sep 2023, 4:21 am » wrote: The dummy electors scheme is not looking good for the mango messiah.
Along with the phone call and other evidence he's looking at hard time.
What a shame.

what a shame the mutt doesn't have long
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2 Sep 2023 11:06 am
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This is why the saying "You can indict a ham sandwich" exists.
Prosecutors only present one side of the argument, and hide any exculpatory evidence that damages their case.
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Squatchman » 02 Sep 2023, 4:21 am » wrote: The dummy electors scheme is not looking good for the mango messiah.
Along with the phone call and other evidence he's looking at hard time.
What a shame.
You're an incredibly stupid ****. 
I often wonder if you just come here to make liberals look ignorant. 

Nothing they did was illegal, an in fact, the alternative electors were REQUIRED for Trump's lawsuit to proceed.
Had there not been alternative electors available, there would have been no legal recourse when he won.
The @FDRLST  has uncovered a transcript of a meeting on December 14th, 2020, showing the intent of the electors was *NOT* to impersonate public officials like Willis claimed.

Willis claimed that Georgia Republican elector David Shafer took part in this 'conspiracy' however transcripts appear to prove that this is false. “[Trump] has filed a contest to the certified returns.

That contest — is pending [and has] not been decided or even heard by any judge with the authority to hear it. And so in order to preserve his rights, it’s important that the Republican nominees for Presidential Elector meet here today and cast their votes," Shafer said at the meeting.

Shafer and then-President Trump had filed a lawsuit in early December claiming thousands of illegal votes had been casted. Their lawsuit was still pending when the meeting took place. Shafer, who alongside other Georgia Republican electors casted their electoral votes for Trump, made it clear that he was filing alternate electors so the judge would "consider the merits of our complaint."

“And so the only way for us to have any judge consider the merits of our complaint, the thousands of people we allege voted unlawfully, is for us to have this meeting and permit the contest to continue?” Shafer asked Trump's attorney at the time.

“That’s correct,” the attorney replied.
Oops.
 
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golfboy » 02 Sep 2023, 11:06 am » wrote: This is why the saying "You can indict a ham sandwich" exists.
Prosecutors only present one side of the argument, and hide any exculpatory evidence that damages their case.
And THAT is ILLEGAL as in ANY grand jury presentation, a PROSECUTOR IS REQUIRED to present any and ALL exculpatory evidence to them. ONLY THEN can one say it was FAIR and UNBIASED!! Seems Fani got a problem getting ready to have her CASES DISMISSED with prejudice!!
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Beekeeper » 02 Sep 2023, 12:49 pm » wrote: And THAT is ILLEGAL as in ANY grand jury presentation, a PROSECUTOR IS REQUIRED to present any and ALL exculpatory evidence to them. ONLY THEN can one say it was FAIR and UNBIASED!! Seems Fani got a problem getting ready to have her CASES DISMISSED with prejudice!!
No, unfortunately it's not illegal.  It's what prosecutors do all the time. 
What they need to do now, is show the judge the bias, and demand the case be dismissed. 
 
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golfboy » 02 Sep 2023, 3:34 pm » wrote: No, unfortunately it's not illegal.  It's what prosecutors do all the time. 
What they need to do now, is show the judge the bias, and demand the case be dismissed.
In a few states, they can exclude it. BUT in Georgia, they MUST!!

In many states, when prosecutors initiate a case through the use of a grand jury, they must present evidence that's helpful to the accused. This duty doesn't require that they present every piece of favorable evidence—they generally only have to offer evidence that strongly points to innocence. But in other states and in federal court, prosecutors have no duty at all to present evidence helpful to the accused.

Georgia Code Title 15, Chapter 12, Article 4 (2021) - Grand ...

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Duty of prosecutor to present exculpatory evidence to state grand jury, 49 A.L.R.5th 639. PART 1 GENERAL PROVISIONS. Cross references.
 
 
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