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I'm just going to list this stuff out.  Y'all can go research it if you doubt me.  But, you should know what has actually happened to Russia:

• Russia's tech sector has been destroyed.  Not just set back 3 decades, but actually destroyed.
• The Russian Ruble is now worthless.  It is about what the German Mark was after WWI. Yeah, @Sumela, don't give me any ****, it's that bad.
• Bank interest rates are now over 20%, this is how Putin is trying to stop a run on the banks.  It doesn't seem to be working - Russians are very nervous.
• The MOEX (Moscow Exchange) is barely limping along and is only open 50% of the time for trading.  SHUT DOWN 50% OF THE TIME!!!
• Nearly all foreign countries have now pulled out of Russia
• Russia has no access to semiconductors other than those with 20th century technology, which can barely be used in Russian made cell phones.
• No auto parts in Russia - cars dying everywhere.
• No new cars in Russia. 

And, before someone like Sumela says "China is giving Russia everything it needs", ****.  China isn't, won't and can't possibly.

Skans » 08 Sep 2023, 1:07 pm » wrote: ↑

08 Sep 2023, 1:07 pm

I'm just going to list this stuff out.  Y'all can go research it if you doubt me.  But, you should know what has actually happened to Russia:

• Russia's tech sector has been destroyed.  Not just set back 3 decades, but actually destroyed.
• The Russian Ruble is now worthless.  It is about what the German Mark was after WWI. Yeah, @Sumela, don't give me any ****, it's that bad.
• Bank interest rates are now over 20%, this is how Putin is trying to stop a run on the banks.  It doesn't seem to be working - Russians are very nervous.
• The MOEX (Moscow Exchange) is barely limping along and is only open 50% of the time for trading.  SHUT DOWN 50% OF THE TIME!!!
• Nearly all foreign countries have now pulled out of Russia
• Russia has no access to semiconductors other than those with 20th century technology, which can barely be used in Russian made cell phones.
• No auto parts in Russia - cars dying everywhere.
• No new cars in Russia. 

And, before someone like Sumela says "China is giving Russia everything it needs", ****.  China isn't, won't and can't possibly.

  it’s no wonder why to never post anything to back up your claims 

no shame is saying “”in my opinion”

Mrkelly » 08 Sep 2023, 1:10 pm » wrote: ↑

08 Sep 2023, 1:10 pm

  it’s no wonder why to never post anything to back up your claims 

no shame is saying “”in my opinion”

I did not say "in my opinion" because everything I reported is fact.  ***, I'm not going to spoon-feed you Democrats any longer.  Y'all are lazy, stupid, and worthless.  You cannot refute the facts I posted.  You won't even try.  
 

Mrkelly » 08 Sep 2023, 1:10 pm » wrote: ↑

08 Sep 2023, 1:10 pm

  it’s no wonder why to never post anything to back up your claims 

no shame is saying “”in my opinion”

 
Skanny is a lost soul.  Papy taught him to hate Russia back in 19 ought 59.

He said this morning that Apple should COMPLETELY pull out of China   .

Skanny wishes in one hand and **** in the other....
 

Skans » 08 Sep 2023, 1:13 pm » wrote: ↑

08 Sep 2023, 1:13 pm

I did not say "in my opinion" because everything I reported is fact.  ***, I'm not going to spoon-feed you Democrats any longer.  Y'all are lazy, stupid, and worthless.  You cannot refute the facts I posted.  You won't even try.

The first “fact” I checked at your direction 

not gonna waste any more time on your opinion

The 59,332 new cars and light commercial vehicles (LCV) sold in Russia in August 2023represented an increase of 42.3% compared to the same month in 2022

https://www.marklines.com/en/statistics ... ember%205.

see how easy that is ?
 

Skans » 08 Sep 2023, 1:13 pm » wrote: ↑

08 Sep 2023, 1:13 pm

I did not say "in my opinion" because everything I reported is fact.  ***, I'm not going to spoon-feed you Democrats any longer.  Y'all are lazy, stupid, and worthless.  You cannot refute the facts I posted.  You won't even try.

OK

One more 

What is the interest rate in Russia now?

The Bank of Russia Board of Directors decided to increase the key rate by 350 basis points to 12.00% per annum from 15 August 2023. The decision is aimed at limiting price stability risks. Inflationary pressure is building up.  Aug 15 2023

https://www.cbr.ru/eng/press/keypr/#:~: ... ding%20up.

what do you know … A link

better check out the spoon that you are being fed with   
 
 

Mrkelly » 08 Sep 2023, 1:26 pm » wrote: ↑

08 Sep 2023, 1:26 pm

OK

One more 

What is the interest rate in Russia now?

The Bank of Russia Board of Directors decided to increase the key rate by 350 basis points to 12.00% per annum from 15 August 2023. The decision is aimed at limiting price stability risks. Inflationary pressure is building up.  Aug 15 2023

https://www.cbr.ru/eng/press/keypr/#:~: ... ding%20up.

what do you know … A link

better check out the spoon that you are being fed with 

 
 

No New Cars
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Actually numerous NEW

Russian and Chinese cars are for sale
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REUTERS

Autos & Transportation Regulatory & Policy Products China Strategy

Focus: Made in Russia? Chinese cars drive a revival of Russia's auto factories

By Gleb Stolyarov and Alexander Marrow
July 20, 2023

Mrkelly » 08 Sep 2023, 1:20 pm » wrote: ↑

08 Sep 2023, 1:20 pm

The first “fact” I checked at your direction 

not gonna waste any more time on your opinion

The 59,332 new cars and light commercial vehicles (LCV) sold in Russia in August 2023represented an increase of 42.3% compared to the same month in 2022

https://www.marklines.com/en/statistics ... ember%205.

see how easy that is ?

Down over 50% from 2021.
 

daaang! I really hate it when cold hard facts.............aren't

Skans » 08 Sep 2023, 2:05 pm » wrote: ↑

08 Sep 2023, 2:05 pm

Down over 50% from 2021.

Up 42% from last year

not quite the “no new cars in Russia” opinion of your OP
 

Mrkelly » 08 Sep 2023, 2:16 pm » wrote: ↑

08 Sep 2023, 2:16 pm

Up 42% from last year

not quite the “no new cars in Russia” opinion of your OP

42% of essentially nothing.  And, I don't believe those numbers are accurate.  I think the real numbers are more in line with hardly any new cars being imported to Russia.  The truth is that Russians are buying USED cars as sanctions pummeled the auto sector. https://www.reuters.com/business/autos- ... 023-02-17/
 

''''Nearly all foreign countries have now pulled out of Russia'''''    

Sad, bitter, angry Lil Skanny.  
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REUTERSFactbox: EU keeps on doing business with Russia despite sanctionsBy Gabriela Baczynska
March 29, 2023
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Europe NewsMore than 550 global companies are still doing business in Russia. Many are European

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POLITICO.EU

Majority of Western companies doing business as usual in Russia, study findsOnly about 8 percent of EU firms have divested from Russia, with the majority of Western firms still active in the country being German.

 
 

Apr 11, 2023 — IMF has erased the estimated growth for the Russian economy this year and adjusted for 2024, although it is still expected to grow 1.3 percent.

Sumela » 08 Sep 2023, 2:21 pm » wrote: ↑

08 Sep 2023, 2:21 pm

''''Nearly all foreign countries have now pulled out of Russia'''''    

Sad, bitter, angry Lil Skanny.  
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REUTERSFactbox: EU keeps on doing business with Russia despite sanctionsBy Gabriela Baczynska
March 29, 2023
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Europe NewsMore than 550 global companies are still doing business in Russia. Many are European

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POLITICO.EU

Majority of Western companies doing business as usual in Russia, study findsOnly about 8 percent of EU firms have divested from Russia, with the majority of Western firms still active in the country being German.

Russia is in a world of hurt and you know it.  They might be able to scratch the bottom of the barrel when it comes to buying machines through china.  But, that's about it.  No semiconductors.  No computers.  No technology.  No parts for war machines.  No auto parts.  Russia has been thrown back to the 1960's.
 

Skans » 08 Sep 2023, 2:19 pm » wrote: ↑

08 Sep 2023, 2:19 pm

42% of essentially nothing.  And, I don't believe those numbers are accurate.  I think the real numbers are more in line with hardly any new cars being imported to Russia.  The truth is that Russians are buying USED cars as sanctions pummeled the auto sector. https://www.reuters.com/business/autos- ... 023-02-17/

up 42% from last year is essentially nothing?

sure a hell of a lot more than your “no new cars” opinion 

The Spectator.UK

Why the economic war against Russia has failed

From magazine issue:
13 May 2023
 

Mrkelly » 08 Sep 2023, 2:24 pm » wrote: ↑

08 Sep 2023, 2:24 pm

up 42% from last year is essentially nothing?

sure a hell of a lot more than your “no new cars” opinion

That's according to your graph, which I've already disputed.  And, I linked to the basis for disputing your graph.  Tell me, what is the 42% of 30?
 

Skans » 08 Sep 2023, 2:24 pm » wrote: ↑

08 Sep 2023, 2:24 pm

Russia is in a world of hurt and you know it.  They might be able to scratch the bottom of the barrel when it comes to buying machines through china.  But, that's about it.  No semiconductors.  No computers.  No technology.  No parts for war machines.  No auto parts.  Russia has been thrown back to the 1960's.

'''Only about 8 percent of EU firms have divested from Russia,
with the majority of Western firms still active in the country being German.'''  
 

Skans » 08 Sep 2023, 2:24 pm » wrote: ↑

08 Sep 2023, 2:24 pm

Russia is in a world of hurt and you know it.  They might be able to scratch the bottom of the barrel when it comes to buying machines through china.  But, that's about it.  No semiconductors.  No computers.  No technology.  No parts for war machines.  No auto parts.  Russia has been thrown back to the 1960's.

The Spectator.UK

Why the economic war against Russia has failed

From magazine issue:
13 May 2023