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Never seen an unplanned shutdown before, not sure what this will look like. Earlier shutdowns had clear reasons, loudly advertised, well in advance. Fund the wall or else. Capitulate on x or else. This shutdown seems almost accidental in comparison. We have bumbled our way into it so it's not clear how to negotiate our way out of it.

At least the Biden administration has guaranteed that Ukraine will continue to receive billions while federal employees and contractors won't. That is sure to assure the millions of Americans impacted that Joe has his priorities straight. 

Who will the American public blame for the shutdown, Republicans or Biden?

Neo » 25 Sep 2023, 2:40 pm » wrote: ↑

25 Sep 2023, 2:40 pm

Never seen an unplanned shutdown before, not sure what this will look like. Earlier shutdowns had clear reasons, loudly advertised, well in advance. Fund the wall or else. Capitulate on x or else. This shutdown seems almost accidental in comparison. We have bumbled our way into it so it's not clear how to negotiate our way out of it.

At least the Biden administration has guaranteed that Ukraine will continue to receive billions while federal employees and contractors won't. That is sure to assure the millions of Americans impacted that Joe has his priorities straight. 

Who will the American public blame for the shutdown, Republicans or Biden?

most Americans probably just roll their eyes when they hear "shutdown"

The rest will just go to their corners and defend their side

 

Mrkelly » 25 Sep 2023, 2:44 pm » wrote: ↑

25 Sep 2023, 2:44 pm

most Americans probably just roll their eyes when they hear "shutdown"

The rest will just go to their corners and defend their side

Most will. Perhaps that is a good thing? Will see how it pans out. A significant percentage of Americans rely on government paychecks. Stopping those for any long term period would fundamentally change America. Perhaps for the good? 
 

During the last shutdown, public parks were closed, even the unattended ones were barricaded........if that happens again, we need another 1776.
 

Something bigger is about to go down. This is just the precursor. 

SHUT IT DOWN!!! HAD ENOUGH!!!! SHUT IT DOWN!!!!! real people do not need the federal government. real people have enough reserves. SHUT IT DOWN .

RebelGator » 25 Sep 2023, 3:02 pm » wrote: ↑

25 Sep 2023, 3:02 pm

During the last shutdown, public parks were closed, even the unattended ones were barricaded........if that happens again, we need another 1776.

That wasn't the last one. Obama SPENT money to make sure Americans knew they were hurt from his shutdown. Parks existed for thousands of years without the need for a government lackey collecting your $10. Even if a long term argument could be made, allowing Americans free access to American national parks at no charge was cheaper than throwing up barricades. That cost money. Doubt many a **** would be given if ranger Rick wasn't standing by to tax you for access to federal land.
 

there are plans to shut down the government and stock market when biden passes away. you should also make plans. biden is struggling to stay alive. but sooner or later we all pass away. lets all hope biden can make it to the end of his term.

Neo » 25 Sep 2023, 2:40 pm » wrote: ↑

25 Sep 2023, 2:40 pm

Never seen an unplanned shutdown before, not sure what this will look like. Earlier shutdowns had clear reasons, loudly advertised, well in advance. Fund the wall or else. Capitulate on x or else. This shutdown seems almost accidental in comparison. We have bumbled our way into it so it's not clear how to negotiate our way out of it.

At least the Biden administration has guaranteed that Ukraine will continue to receive billions while federal employees and contractors won't. That is sure to assure the millions of Americans impacted that Joe has his priorities straight. 

Who will the American public blame for the shutdown, Republicans or Biden?

The republican party won't blame ANYONE.

They'll be completely cool about it, so long as israel is still getting paid and the biden crime family is still able to get their money over to ukraine. 

It's damn near like they're in it together, y'know?
 
 

Russian and Chinese infrastructure

make Murka look like a 3rd world country.

Cannonpointer » 25 Sep 2023, 5:13 pm » wrote: ↑

25 Sep 2023, 5:13 pm

The republican party won't blame ANYONE.

They'll be completely cool about it, so long as israel is still getting paid and the biden crime family is still able to get their money over to ukraine. 

It's damn near like they're in it together, y'know?

THE UNIPARTY

Neo » 25 Sep 2023, 2:40 pm » wrote: ↑

25 Sep 2023, 2:40 pm

Never seen an unplanned shutdown before, not sure what this will look like. Earlier shutdowns had clear reasons, loudly advertised, well in advance. Fund the wall or else. Capitulate on x or else. This shutdown seems almost accidental in comparison. We have bumbled our way into it so it's not clear how to negotiate our way out of it.

At least the Biden administration has guaranteed that Ukraine will continue to receive billions while federal employees and contractors won't. That is sure to assure the millions of Americans impacted that Joe has his priorities straight. 

Who will the American public blame for the shutdown, Republicans or Biden?

in other words the provoked war has precedence over americans, no one questions that zelensky threatened russia long before the invasion, that  little  detail is never mentioned, I wonder why.