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Gosh, still not one single word of sympathy or concern from little Miss Marxist about the killing of babies. Speaks volumes. My father was murdered by a fetus. They won't be getting any sympathy from me. I still make fun of jews for getting gassed. What kind of pansy gets himself gassed, or aborted? Those fetuses should have prepared better. Ever heard of PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY?

Misty, on 13 Apr 2013 - 00:06, said:I don't know how you classify David Gregory or Mark Kelly as straw purchasers.Playing stupid now or did you really forget?David Gregory had an illegal magazine that he was waving around on TVHe was breaking the law doing so, and had asked for special permission to do so which was denied. He knew what he was doing was illegal and did it anyway.You said there was no "benefit to society" in prosecuting himMark Kelly lied on his 4473 when he said he was buying the gun for himself, and once the news got out that he was trying to buy it he said he was buying it to give to the police department. This is not only a crime, but a possible felony which he was allowed to walk away from.This is what makes him a straw purchaserI know all that. A straw purchaser is someone who buys guns and sells them to people who are unable to pass a background check.I still don't understand how you classify David Gregory and Mark Kelly as straw purchasers.Recently the head of prisons in Colorado was shot and killed. Evan Ebel, the accused killer used a straw purchaser to acquire the 9mm semiautomatic handgun used in that shooting.Ebel, a white supremacist gang member, was a felon and thereby was barred under federal law from possessing a gun. Had he tried to go into a gun store a buy a gun, he would have failed the background check. So instead Ebel used the most common method criminals use to acquire firearms: a straw purchaser. In this case it is alleged that Stevie Marie Vigil, a 22-year-old woman, went in to High Plains Arms to buy a gun on Ebels behalf.http://thinkprogress...rder/?mobile=ncChuck: Two directions I could go with this and I can't decide which way to go so I'll hit them bothFirst, you sound just like one of us, who want the existing laws enforced before new ones are passed, but then again, you don't know what the penalties are already, but you want them to become more severe.Doesn't that sound dumb?I never claimed to be smart.Chuck: Most of the illegal guns in Chicago are STOLEN, not "trafficked"I suppose you want to make stealing guns against the law too?I read an article recently where it said that most of the illegal guns used in Chicago come from Cook County Illinois, and many of them from one gun shop named, believe it or not, Chuck's Gun Store, most likely bought by straw purchasers.You might think the Deep South is the biggest source of the firearms in the hands of Chicagos criminals.Maybe you heard about the less-restrictive gun laws in the South or the high-profile cases the feds have brought against gun traffickers moving weapons from Mississippi and other states to Chicago the Dixie pipeline.But the truth is most guns recovered in crimes here were originally bought in Illinois.More specifically, in Cook County.And the No. 1 supplier of those weapons is just a short drive from Chicago, Chucks Gun Store in south suburban Riverdale.From 2008 to March 2012, the police successfully traced the ownership of 1,375 guns recovered in crimes in Chicago within a year of their purchase.Of those guns, 268 were bought at Chucks nearly one in five.http://www.suntimes....o-buy-guns.htmlChuck: And even more killed by autos.Where's the outrage?I don't really get that whole car/gun analogy.When people are killed by autos, it's usually accidental.How many mass killings are committed by people using their car to mow down a bunch of people?

It has become pretty clear to me that I am never going to be able to have a thread where can I talk about the things that I want to talk about, without it being disrupted and derailed by a lunatic who has been fixated on, and obsessed with me for five **** years.I guess he blames me for Obama's re-election as it seems like he's worse than ever since he returned here a few weeks ago..(btthegreat @ Aug 28 2008, 10:11 PM) [POST SNAPBACK]There is the suggestion on these boards, Rich, that you are irrationally fixated on this specific progressive poster. Your accusations could so easily apply to at least a third of the liberals here who hate Bush and blame Bush and do so without any restraint. When you focus so intently on one with a goal of either changing her behavior or driving her out it makes one wonder why not say Shintao, or Scott that you follow...Sorry, but I think it is quite rational. Shintao, Scott and others are so obviously absurd, they discredit themselves. Why should I bother with them?Missy appears rational, key word being "appears," and is obviously intelligent and hides her hard Left opinions so as to appear moderate, as she's dishonestly claimed to be.She uses this posture of moderation and news stories to heap false blame on Bush and conservatives.I despise anyone who disseminates propaganda, falsehoods and lies, on either left or right, and I strongly dislike her on a personal basis, so I've chosen to discredit her personally on the board.I have had lengthy courteous debates with people like Henry, with whom I strongly disagree, but they honestly express their opinions and don't misrepresent themselves, or dissemble and lie about issues.I don't demand people accept my opinions, just that they're reasonably honest about issues and about people for whom I have considerable respect, including Bush...Jesus H. Christ, Clem! I'm starting to think you are living in your parent's basement, coked out of your mind, with your keyboard in one hand, and your d*ck in the other. You're sitting there shaking from the coke as you chant "Misty" "Misty" "Misty", as you wack yourself silly and create new threads about her. Take a break, sober up, clean off your keyboard, shave your hands, and go see what the sun looks like...A Blood Grudge Match? Are you kidding me Rich? WHY? WHAT'S THE POINT? Misty isn't attacking you anymore .... she's retreated...she wants a truce between the 2 of you! Put one another on "Ignore" and let it go! The animosity that you have towards her quite publicly is making you look like the jerk and the agressor and somehow I doubt that is the result you were looking for. You and I don't agree on very much politically, but we've always been able to have a civil conversation, so please trust me when I tell you that your once highly respected opinion and persona, whether people agreed with them or not, has suffered tremendously since you opted to conduct this one man war against Misty. For the sake of Sanity......for the sake of your own self respect....for the sake of maintaining the respect that others on this forum have for you......FOR HEAVENS SAKE.....LET IT GO!!!!!!!!..Dude, the missypoo threads are getting excessive.You're quickly reaching the point where you're doing misty's work for her, ie, making yourself look bad.Maybe it's time to drop this...bump. Sorry Rich. it might be fun but as far as I know you are still stalking misty and she can't come here unmolested. So we can't talk...Not to confuse you with the facts again, but this is a debate board, not a place to disseminate propaganda, falsehoods and lies, like Missy Poo does daily.I targeted her, because unlike other complete loons, because she refuses to debate, she has a veil of false credibility. When she begins to correct the mistakes, falsehoods and lies she'd disseminated, I'll be more than happy to be courteous to her and cut her some slack...I don't care what you want. This is a debate board. You're engaged less in debate, than in a left wing Propaganda Campaign. I'll write whatever I want about you and start as many threads about you as I want...Stalking her? This is a debate board. I don't bother her when she stays away from political matters...Missy refuses to respond in the threads I start or in the proper ones. She refuses to correct her lies, then goes on to tell new ones.So how does one go about correcting them, if the liar won't respond?No kidding I'll chase her.Here you go Puss, you can have this thread too.I'm done with it.

It has become pretty clear to me that I am never going to be able to have a thread where can I talk about the things that I want to talk about, without it being disrupted and derailed by a lunatic who has been fixated on, and obsessed with me for five **** years. I guess he blames me for Obama's re-election as it seems like he's worse than ever since he returned here a few weeks ago. . Here you go Puss, you can have this thread too. I'm done with it. Awww, what a wuss. I have had countless mindless moonbats "stalking" me and leaving dumb posts and personal attacks. I don't care, because they have no credibility. You whimper off, because you know I do. And as usual, it's stunning that a professional smear artist like you could such a freaking whiner.

When it comes to being a whiner you take the cake Clem.You have tried to play the victim while following me around this forum and insulting me for years.Nobody's buying it.You have admitted more than once that you have 'targeted' and 'stalked' me..This is a debate board. From the day you arrived here, you did your best to avoid debate with me or anyone else with reasonable knowledge and understanding.How ironic. A moderator refusing to debate, but spreading Propaganda, Disinformation and The Big Lie.Truth and Lies are no more than "words on a page."I despise lies, so of course I'd despise those people who disseminate them.I won't let The Big Lie win, nor is it. Your Government Monopoly Health Care Plan, supported by deceit, stealth and lies, is DEAD, thanks to people like me across the country.I don't target people who honestly express their opinions, now matter how much I disagree with them, unless they're rude to me. I target people who lack the integrity to debate important issues with integrity.Americans' freedom is in severe jeopardy from the Radical Left. The very nature of the American way of life is at severe risk. Our founding principles are being challenged to their very core.And few of those who are doing so, like yourself, have the integrity to admit what their agenda is. You do it via stealth, deceit, dishonesty and false smears on anyone who opposes you.Not if I can help stop it...The only person other than yourself I had a confrontation with, that I recall, was PH.Wow, so in 5 years or so, I've "stalked" a total of two people.Makes me a real sociopath. Yes it does. Most sane people have never stalked anyone on the internet.

wtf is this title. baby girl you give this *** hat too much control here... smack him....

When it comes to be a whiner you take the cake Clem. You have tried to play the victim while following me around this forum and insulting me for years. Nobody's buying it. You have admitted more than once that you have 'targeted' and 'stalked' me. Oh my, how awful of me to quote your own words in full and honest context. It's your words that discredit you, moonbat. I don't whine when people quote me in full and honest context. You don't; you cut out key words and important facts, in your typical dishonest style. The only person other than yourself I had a confrontation with, that I recall, was PH. Wow, so in 5 years or so, I've "stalked" a total of two people.Makes me a real sociopath. Yes it does. Most sane people have never stalked anyone on the internet. This is a political debate board, moonbat. If you tell lies, if you dishonestly smear people, if you dishonestly shill for a party, of course I'll discredit you. Only a hopeless whining moonbat would bleat about that.

wtf is this title. baby girl you give this *** hat too much control here... smack him....You smack him.I wouldn't touch the maniac.He's crazier than **** rat, and probably just as rabid.He belongs in a **** straight jacket.

wtf is this title. baby girl you give this *** hat too much control here... smack him....You smack him.I wouldn't touch the maniac.He's crazier than **** rat, and probably just as rabid.He belongs in a **** straight jacket.Could a sane, honest person really believe the following?Why do Republicans love to shoot protesters (Nixon-Kent State)?We must be really, really bad shots if you have to go back to the '70's.

Could a sane, honest person really believe the following?You are hardly quailfied to judge want a sane or honest person could believe.

You smack him. I wouldn't touch the maniac. He's crazier than **** rat, and probably just as rabid. He belongs in a **** straight jacket. you have the power .... swat this insect..

You are hardly quailfied to judge want a sane or honest person could believe. Oh gosh, then yes, Repubs do love to shoot protesters. Why are we such bad shots then, moonbat? I strongly dislike her (MIsty) on a personal basis, so I've chosen to discredit her personally on the board. True, I don't like smear artists and shameless liars. So? If you see any on the right, feel free to jump all over them. I won't ally myself with them, like you do with the worst liars on your side.

you have the power .... swat this insect..That's exactly what he wants, and I'm not going to give him the satisfaction.He already accused me of putting him in the Mod que so his posts would have to be approved, and in the past he has accused me of deleting his threads, both of which of course were not true.He will be his own undoing, as it seems like Chuck is now fed up with his antics.He can't seem to behave himself even after Chuck warned him about being disruptive and bringing up old topics that have nothing to do with the subject of the thread.He still mentions Bill Clinton and a 25 year old rape accusation in almost every post.

lucifershammer, on 13 Apr 2013 - 16:13, said: you have the power .... swat this insect. That's exactly what he wants, and I'm not going to give him the satisfaction. She couldn't swat her way out of a wet paper bag if given a hammer. He will be his own undoing, as it seems like Chuck is now fed up with his antics. He can't seem to behave himself even after Chuck warned him about being disruptive and bringing up old topics that have nothing to do with the subject of the thread. He still mentions Bill Clinton and a 25 year old rape accusation in almost every post. You brought up Clinton, moonbat, so why can't I mention him? And given that the title of the thread is, "little-miss-marxists-manifesto," why can't I quote your own words? Wow, how unfair!

Can someone explain to me the whole RichClem Misty thing ?

She couldn't swat her way out of a wet paper bag if given a hammer.Guess what Puss?I could make every word you have ever written on this forum disappear forever if I wanted to.Think about that for a while.If you keep pushing me, I just might snap and do it one day.But given your current behavior, and the fact that you can't seem to honor your word to Chuck, I doubt if you'll be around here long enough to make that happen.Can someone explain to me the whole RichClem Misty thing ? Clem is a psycho who targets and stalks people on political forums.I have been his favorite target for the last 5 years, but there were others before me.He's certifiable.

Can someone explain to me the whole RichClem Misty thing ? She's a dishonest smear artist. Bush, Rush, John Fund, Karl Rove, etc. etc. etc. etc. She's even tried to portray Rush and Fund as literal child molesters. And when someone on the board gets in her way, she'll smear them, too, as she did me. It's personal. On top of that, she won't admit the truth to save her little troll life. She represents exactly what's wrong in politics, has been for a long time and why the liberal-left is winning.

Gee, I don't know, Rich. Misty and I haven't agreed on anything but she's always been pretty civil and represented her arguments well. You seem to be the emotionally unstable one. Never thought I'd defend one of "them" but your attacks on her are personal. Not cool, man.

I know all that. A straw purchaser is someone who buys guns and sells them to people who are unable to pass a background check.I still don't understand how you classify David Gregory and Mark Kelly as straw purchasers.You STILL haven't read my post! Even though you quoted it!I didn't say David Gregory was a straw purchserDo you understand that?I didn't say David Gregory was a straw purchaserDO you understand that?I DIDN'T SAY DAVID GREGORY WAS A STRAW PURCHASERDO YOU UNDERSTAND THAT YET?If I type it again and again and again, will you understand it?Should I use a bigger font? Will that help?I never claimed to be smart.Damn good thing you didn't,,,,I read an article recently where it said that most of the illegal guns used in Chicago come from Cook County Illinois, and many of them from one gun shop named, believe it or not, Chuck's Gun Store, most likely bought by straw purchasers.The why isn't the "straw purchaser" locked up?The records exist, it would be easy to put this guy on a do not approve list, so how is he still doing it?The short answer is he ain'tI don't really get that whole car/gun analogy.When people are killed by autos, it's usually accidental.How many mass killings are committed by people using their car to mow down a bunch of people?Two points,One is that driving a car isn't a specifically listed constitutional right,The second is that you aren't really interested in the deaths, but rather how they died. And you are willing to punish the whole of society for the actions of a few, who cause only a statistical blimp in the number of deaths in total.Using your logic, we should ban all abortions because of a few who killed live babies who survived the abortion. (Something your main man OBama voted against making illegal, BTW)

Gee, I don't know, Rich. Misty and I haven't agreed on anything but she's always been pretty civil and represented her arguments well. You seem to be the emotionally unstable one. Never thought I'd defend one of "them" but your attacks on her are personal. Not cool, man. I appreciate the feedback. I'd better lay off the coffee for a while.