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#ShePersisted » 09 Mar 2017 12:43 pm » wrote: But they didn't charge him with anything did they?
That was just a threat to get him to give up his source.
His source was charged, he was not.

45 is now talking about investigating leaks, so will you criticize him when he starts investigating reporters who leak classified info?

I think not.
Because that would mean that you are not a hypocrite, and we all know that you are.

Termin8tor » 09 Mar 2017 12:05 pm » wrote: Except you ignore the fact that the Obama administration wanted to charge Rosen with a felony.

Termin8tor » 09 Mar 2017 12:05 pm » wrote: How many presidential administrations have charged journalists with felonies?

#ShePersisted » 09 Mar 2017 12:31 pm » wrote: No, I'm not.
You will forever be on my **** list because of this.



You besmirched the character of my deceased father, who was one of the finest men I have ever known and who would never have hurt a child.

I will never forgive that.
Not that you ever apologized for it DILDO.

Termin8tor » 09 Mar 2017 12:34 pm » wrote: Really hilarious given how you smeared John Fund as a child molester.

Termin8tor » 09 Mar 2017 12:51 pm » wrote:
It is extremely rare to attempt to intimidate a journalist by threatening to charge him with a felony.
Who is the last president whose Justice Dept. did that? I'll bet it was decades ago.

It was an abuse of power by Obama and officials, one of many he committed.

About which you wrote not one word of criticism.

Termin8tor » 09 Mar 2017 12:51 pm » wrote: It is extremely rare to attempt to intimidate a journalist by threatening to charge him with a felony.
Who is the last president whose Justice Dept. did that? I'll bet it was decades ago.

It was an abuse of power by Obama and officials, one of many he committed.

Termin8tor » 09 Mar 2017 12:34 pm » wrote:Really hilarious given how you smeared John Fund as a child molester.

Cannonpointer » 09 Mar 2017 1:06 pm » wrote:Everyone knows you should use the CIVIL courts to bully reporters, not the CRIMINAL courts

Termin8tor » 09 Mar 2017 12:51 pm » wrote:It was an abuse of power by Obama and officials, one of many he committed.
About which you wrote not one word of criticism.

Trump-Russia conspirator Michael Flynn registers as foreign agent, admits he took half million dollars.

Former Donald Trump National Security Adviser Michael Flynn has officially registered with the United States government as a foreign agent today, in the process admitting that he took more than half a million dollars in lobbying funds from Turkey during the U.S. election.

Flynn’s paid work for Turkey had long been reported, but he’s now acknowledging it.

This raises the question of what endgame Flynn is playing amid the exploding Trump-Russia scandal.

By registering as a foreign agent today and reporting himself for having taken the $530,000 from Turkey, Michael Flynn is essentially admitting guilt on the matter, and appears to be trying to position himself for some kind of leniency.

This move suggests that after years of unsanctioned international freelancing on his part, Flynn is now suddenly trying to get his legal ducks in a row.

Today’s action was likely taken on the advice of an attorney.

But Flynn is also facing the fact that he lied to the FBI about Russia, a felony.

So what has his attorney instructed him to do about that matter?

#ShePersisted » 09 Mar 2017 1:11 pm » wrote: Let's see if he feels the same way when his Circus Peanut Messiah starts doing the same thing.

Rachel Maddow Would Like To Scare The **** Out Of You Now

She’s smiling, but she’s going to scare you anyway.

We’ve been covering the story of how Donald Trump’s campaign maybe might have colluded with Russia to steal the 2016 election for one thousand years now, it seems.

New information comes out every day, Trump administration officials are already resigning and recusing themselves from investigations, and of course there’s that spy document called the Steele Dossier — which was once “unsourced intelligence! pee hookers! this is crazy!” — that’s being confirmed, bit by strange bit, and the pieces are falling into place slowly but surely.

It’s nuts! We must get to the bottom of what Russia and Trump did or did not do together, and if that means everybody Trump has ever met has to GO TO JAIL and Trump gets exiled to Gitmo, well so be it!

But on Wednesday night, Rachel Maddow went over something people aren’t really talking about, but they should be.

Remember that thing the other day when NBC/MSNBC’s Andrea Mitchell became our Hero Journalist of the Day for the first time in her life?

She was at the State Department trying in vain to ask Secretary Rex Tillerson how he plans to do his job considering Donald Trump wants to slash the hell out of department funding, Tillerson can’t even seem to get a deputy, State isn’t doing briefings like it used to, and oh yeah, Trump and Tillerson have been effing CLEANING HOUSE, getting rid of career foreign service officers that have been there for DECADES.

If by “drain the swamp,” Trump meant “literally destroy one of the most important, longest standing departments of the U.S. government,” then that mission is being accomplished!

Maddow talked about all the things State does to support democracy and human rights around the world, including supporting dissident movements in nations like, well, you know, RUSSIA, and how if there is one part our American-ly Exceptionalist System Vladimir Putin would probably like to see destroyed, it’s State.

It was mean terrible Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, after all, who in 2011 called Russia’s **** parliamentary elections out for the sham **** elections they were, and Russians were taking to the streets protesting the regime in power.

Putin blamed the protests on Hillary, and by extension, on State.

As Maddow points out, that infamous Steele Dossier says part of why Putin wanted Hillary to lose was his “fear and hatred” of her, because she was so willing to beat his *** when she was at State.

Maddow notes that Tillerson, the man from Exxon who holds Clinton’s former position, is a guy who had never met Donald Trump before he was nominated, but he sure as hell was already pals with Uncle Vlad Putin, having been awarded Russia’s Order Of Friendship in 2013.

Putin gave it to Tillerson himself!

Of course Tillerson’s Exxon also did YOOGE DEALS with Russia’s state-owned oil company Rosneft. (Yes, that’s the same Rosneft that Trump stooge Carter Page attended meetings with, about the sale of 19.5% of the company to — ??? — in exchange for a loosening of U.S. sanctions.

The Trump campaign, having originally denied that Page took that trip, now admits it.

After the election, 19.5% of Rosneft was indeed sold to ???. FUNNY!)

So what Rachel Maddow is asking is, if Putin really wanted to destroy the State Department, if Putin wanted to destroy American institutions that threaten his own power, what better guy is there than Rex Tillerson to hold the very important job of standing there and looking pretty while Trump dismantles the “administrative state” (in Steve Bannon’s words), and in the process strengthens his Russian butt-buddy Vladimir Putin?

And her bigger question, the question that, as she notes, nobody is really asking, is, aside from getting to the bottom of what Russia and Trump DID to undermine American democracy during the 2016 election, what are they STILL DOING RIGHT NOW to undermine us?

Was the election interference a one-off deal where Putin vanquishes Hillary and then goes home fat and happy?

Or was it part of something bigger, where Putin is using Trump — remember, the Steele Dossier, much of which is still unverified, alleges that Russia has been cultivating Trump as an asset FOR YEARS — to achieve much wider goals?

Here, watch a video and let Rachel Maddow scare you:

https://youtu.be/1Kul_y9Az8E

AYIIIIIIEIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!

Either our tinfoil hats are fitting just right these days, or YOU ARE CRAZY AND HOLY ****.

Lately, every time we feel like we are the crazy ones, it turns out in the end that you are crazy, so we’re just going to continue with that assumption until we’re proven wrong.

#ShePersisted » 09 Mar 2017 1:44 pm » wrote:Rachel Maddow Would Like To Scare The **** Out Of You Now...Remember that thing the other day when NBC/MSNBC’s Andrea Mitchell became our Hero Journalist of the Day for the first time in her life?
She was at the State Department trying in vain to ask Secretary Rex Tillerson how he plans to do his job considering Donald Trump wants to slash the hell out of department funding, Tillerson can’t even seem to get a deputy, State isn’t doing briefings like it used to, and oh yeah, Trump and Tillerson have been effing CLEANING HOUSE, getting rid of career foreign service officers that have been there for DECADES.

#ShePersisted » 09 Mar 2017 1:17 pm » wrote: You are constantly talking about what I haven't written one word about on this forum.
I'm not sure if I should be flattered or freaked out by the fact that you have read every single word I have ever written here.

It's kind of stalkerish.

Termin8tor » 09 Mar 2017 2:00 pm » wrote:Ever heard of statistical sampling, Dim?
It means that over time if I've never seen you write a word of strong criticism of Obama, the odds are effectively zero that you have.

#ShePersisted » 09 Mar 2017 2:04 pm » wrote:The Great Republican Swindle

The Trump administration and GOP Congress are lying about Obamacare and their proposed replacement.

If they succeed, it would be one of the great scams in the history of Congress.
[..........]
House Republicans are rushing the AHCA through the legislative process without a cost estimate from the Congressional Budget Office to ballpark the bill’s effect on coverage, cost, spending, and revenue.

CBO predicted Obamacare would expand coverage dramatically, and it did. .

#ShePersisted » 09 Mar 2017 2:08 pm » wrote: Statistical sampling?


That **** doesn't pass the smell test.
You said I 'never wrote one word' about it.

Termin8tor » 09 Mar 2017 2:11 pm » wrote:....somebody will give an estimate of costs when the time is appropriate, hopefully not the incompetent, partisan CBO.

How Republicans Might Fudge the Numbers to Make Their Health Care Bill Seem Less Irresponsible

Veteran Republican Keith Hall, hired by Congressional Republicans to run their budget office, is now terrifying them with the prospect of an honest accounting of their plans.