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Conservative media figures are embracing a wild WikiLeaks conspiracy theory that the CIA hacked the DNC, and then framed Russia.

It didn't take even 48 hours for an online conspiracy theory to make its way from the reply section of the WikiLeaks Twitter account to the prime-time airwaves on Fox News and top conservative radio programs.

On Tuesday, WikiLeaks released a batch of apparent CIA documents describing the agency's extensive cybersecurity and hacking capabilities, which appear to allow agents to hack into a variety of smart, internet-collected devices.

And as WikiLeaks began promoting its most interesting documents, a conspiracy theory was born.
The theory appeared to emerge first on WikiLeaks' Twitter account about an hour after the group released the Vault 7 documents.

Readers jumped on the tweet, leaping to the conclusion that perhaps the CIA could be responsible for the hack and release of private emails from the Democratic National Committee and Hillary Clinton's former campaign chair John Podesta's email account.

There are reports in media outlets from The New York Times to
Fox News showing in detail Russia's meddling in the 2016 election, including the hack and release of DNC and Podesta emails.

But this information didn't stop the theory from picking up steam among many prominent online supporters of President Donald Trump, including social-media figures like radio host Bill Mitchell and Ann Coulter.

The theory spread so fast conservative radio giant Rush Limbaugh had time to tout it on his show on March 7, when he denied Trump had any Russian campaign ties to Russia.

"The CIA has the ability to hack anybody they want and make it look like the Russians are doing it or make it look like the ChiComs are doing it or make it look like the Israelis are doing it," Limbaugh said, using a slang term for Chinese communists.

Right-wing sites weren't the only ones spreading the theory.

It was picked up by Russian state-sponsored English media outlets like Sputnik, which gleefully mocked "evidence-free" accusations that Russia hacked the election, linking to tweets "chock-full of sarcasm and memes" about the CIA's capabilities.

But it breached fully into the mainstream when Fox News host Sean Hannity floated the idea on Wednesday, first on his radio show, then on his Twitter account.

"The CIA, according to these WikiLeaks leaks, uses stolen malware to attribute cyberattacks to nations like Russia," Hannity told radio listeners.

"In other words, what they're saying is the CIA can actually blame Russia for an attack on an American, because they'll put their fingerprints all over the attack. Meanwhile it came from within."

One of the guests on Hannity's show, Retired Army Lietenant Colonel Anthony Schaffer, a torture advocate who has floated Benghazi and 9-11 conspiracy theories in the past, took it a step further, claiming he had unnamed sources described the conspiracy to him.

"Sean, we did it. Not me, but our guys, former members of NSA, retired intelligence officers used these tools to break in there and get the information out.

That’s what the Democrats don’t want to talk about because it doesn’t fit their narrative," Shaffer said.

"You're telling me this whole Russian story that the media has been running with for months and months and months — that it was our people that did it, and they put the fingerprints of the Russians on it?" Hannity asked.

"That's right," Shaffer said.

"Do you have proof of that?" Hannity asked.

"I don't have proof of that," Shaffer replied.[/quote]

LOL. he doesn't have proof of that.
But Hannity is happy to defend the Russians over his own country without any stinkin' proof.

After all, if Sputnik said it, it must be true.
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#ShePersisted » 10 Mar 2017 11:47 am » wrote: You mean like Trump's phony slush fund foundation?
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Nah, I was thinking more along the lines of a certain foundation where donations dropped almost 40% since someone lost the election!!!! :omg:
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Really, REALLY hilarious coming from someone who makes accusations against Trump without ANY EVIDENCE to support them. :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

No one knows what the truth is, Dim.
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Termin8tor » 10 Mar 2017 12:03 pm » wrote:I ignored that? Liar, I wrote that he absolutely should have disclosed it to Trump.
So that's the only problem you have with it?
That he didn't disclose it?
Not the fact that he was the National Security adviser to the POTUS while working as a foreign agent?

:loco:

You also ignored this part of my post:
#ShePersisted » 10 Mar 2017 11:41 am » wrote:So they (Trump & Pence) are either lying when they said that they didn't know, or they never even bothered to vet this guy before naming him the chief advisor to the President of the United States on national security issues. Which do you think it is?
Silence from you.
Termin8tor » 10 Mar 2017 12:03 pm » wrote:I don't know that writing one oped piece amounts to lobbying, and neither do you.
You think he got over half a million dollars from Turkey for writing one Op-Ed?
He must be one hell of a writer.

:die: :die: :die:
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Huey » 10 Mar 2017 12:12 pm » wrote:Nah, I was thinking more along the lines of a certain foundation where donations dropped almost 40% since someone lost the election!!!! :omg:
I guess all of that bad publicity took it's toll.
Too bad some people will no longer be getting their aids medicine.

But hey we got an honest guy in the WH who never started a phony foundation or a phony University.
All he did was grab a few pussies, so it's all good.
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#ShePersisted » 10 Mar 2017 12:18 pm » wrote: So that's the only problem you have with it?
That he didn't disclose it?
Not the fact that he was the National Security adviser to the POTUS while working as a foreign agent?

:loco:

There is no bright line defining when someone is "working as a foreign agent," but he likely should not have done that

But given your years of defense of Democrat criminals, you're babbling and shrieking and hyperventilating in fake partisan outrage. :\
You also ignored this part of my post:

Silence from you.:
How many years has it been since you answered any of my questions, psycho? :\
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#ShePersisted » 10 Mar 2017 12:24 pm » wrote: I guess all of that bad publicity took it's toll.
Translated into honest English: once the Clinton's could no longer sell access and favors, donations dried up.
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#ShePersisted » 10 Mar 2017 12:24 pm » wrote: I guess all of that bad publicity took it's toll.
Too bad some people will no longer be getting their aids medicine.

But hey we got an honest guy in the WH who never started a phony foundation or a phony University.
All he did was grab a few pussies, so it's all good.
Bad Publicity, is that what they are calling it? Oh, my bad. I thought it had more to do with losing access. What foreign billionaire or cabinet member wants to visit a 68 eight year old woman with no government access in westchester.
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Termin8tor » 10 Mar 2017 12:25 pm » wrote:There is no bright line defining when someone is "working as a foreign agent,"
Yes Puss, there is a VERY bright line.
There is a pesky little law called the Foreign Agents Registration Act also know as the Foreign Propagandists Registration Act.

You have to register as a foreign agent who is paid by a foreign government to basically spread propaganda on their behalf, something that Flynn did not do until a few days ago under advice by his attorney.

So you think that it was okay for Flynn to be paid by a foreign gov't to spread propaganda on their behalf in this country while he was working in the White House.

According to you, his only sin was not disclosing that fact.
You still wanna go with that?
Termin8tor » 10 Mar 2017 12:25 pm » wrote:.....but he likely should not have done that.
Ya think?
How likely?
Just a little likely?
Or a lot likely?
Termin8tor » 10 Mar 2017 12:25 pm » wrote:But given your years of defense of Democrat criminals, you're babbling and shrieking and hyperventilating in fake partisan outrage. :\
Says the idiot who defends every criminal and pervert with an R after their name.
Termin8tor » 10 Mar 2017 12:25 pm » wrote:How many years has it been since you answered any of my questions, psycho? :\
Can't bring yourself to say whether they're lying or just incompetent can ya Puss?
It can only be one of the two.
There is no third choice.
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Why is it that this is how I picture Clem in my mind whenever I read one of his posts defending Trump?

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#ShePersisted » 10 Mar 2017 12:39 pm » wrote: Says the idiot who defends every criminal and pervert with an R after their name..
Blah, blah, blah, blah from a psychopath.


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Can't bring yourself to say whether they're lying or just incompetent can ya Puss?
It can only be one of the two.
There is no third choice.
As the Dim ignores Trump's excellent accomplishments so far. :\

You're severely mentally ill. :loco:
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#ShePersisted » 10 Mar 2017 12:52 pm » wrote:Why is it that this is how I picture Clem in my mind whenever I read one of his posts defending Trump?
What, no Democrat rapists to defend?

Have you stumbled onto one single piece of evidence showing collusion between Trump and Russia, Dim? :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

Nope, just endless lies.

Your party is f***ed.

Your philosophy is a failure.
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Termin8tor » 10 Mar 2017 12:53 pm » wrote:As the Dim ignores Trump's excellent accomplishments so far. :\
And the dolt ignores my question again. :\

Why don't you name some of his 'excellent' accomplishments Puss.
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Termin8tor » 10 Mar 2017 12:54 pm » wrote:What, no Democrat rapists to defend?
What no racist bestiality video disseminators to defend?
No men of high integrity who like to schtoop both mothers and their daughters?
I know you have at least one ****** grabber to defend.
Termin8tor » 10 Mar 2017 12:54 pm » wrote:Have you stumbled onto one single piece of evidence showing collusion between Trump and Russia, Dim? :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
No, why have you?
Once again telling the lie that I ever said there was any evidence of collusion to influence the election.

There is however lot's of evidence of Trump and his cronies having a very cozy relationship with the Russians.
But I think it has more to do with money than with the election.
Termin8tor » 10 Mar 2017 12:54 pm » wrote:Your party is f***ed.
You're right. (I'm a registered member of the Republican Party)

They are sharply divided over Trumpcare and they will overreach just like they always do whenever they get power.
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Flynn was already fired. Should Trump fire him again?
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Huey » 10 Mar 2017 1:11 pm » wrote:Flynn was already fired. Should Trump fire him again?
So you don't care if Trump and Pence are lying when they say that they didn't know that Flynn was a foreign agent until the other day?

Did you notice that the reporter in the video said that when Flynn was fired Sean Spicer said that there were 'other things' he was fired for aside from lying to Pence?
Hmmmm.
Could this maybe have been one of those 'other things?'
If that's the case, then they knew before this week.

What am I saying?
Of course you don't care if Trump and Pence are lying.
Because Obama with that whole 'keep your doctor' thing and Hillary with that 'anti-Muslim video' thing.

Those two lies have been beaten to death while Trump's list of lies continues to mount up and go ignored.
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#ShePersisted » 10 Mar 2017 1:22 pm » wrote: So you don't care if Trump and Pence are lying when they say that they didn't know that Flynn was a foreign agent until the other day?

Did you notice that the reporter in the video said that when Flynn was fired Sean Spicer said that there were 'other things' he was fired for aside from lying to Pence?
Hmmmm.
Could this maybe have been one of those 'other things?'
If that's the case, then they knew before this week.

What am I saying?
Of course you don't care if Trump and Pence are lying.
Because Obama with that whole 'keep your doctor' thing and Hillary with that 'anti-Muslim video' thing.

Those two lies have been beaten to death while Trump's list of lies continues to mount up and go ignored.
I am not sure Trump and Pence are lying. If and when I am I will let you know.

Now, if you continue to play your typical games misty by reading into my posts I am going to start to do the same. I will treat you exactly the same way you treat me. If you whine about it remember, these are the rules you are setting down. This is the second day in a row you are playing the misty game.

So with that in mind please excuse me if I really don't take your faux outrage seriously after all you ignored concerning Clinton and Obama the last 8 years. YOU are the last person on this forum who be questioning what others care about.

Capisce?
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#ShePersisted » 10 Mar 2017 1:01 pm » wrote: And the dolt ignores my question again. :\
How many years has it been since you have answered one of mine, psycho?

Answer the question
Why don't you name some of his 'excellent' accomplishments Puss.
I have started a number of threads giving examples. Have you ever read anything in any of them?

No, because you're a liar and a Propaganda artist.

http://liberalforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=27543

http://liberalforum.net/viewtopic.php?f ... 22#p873222

http://liberalforum.net/viewtopic.php?f ... 06#p888106

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#ShePersisted » 10 Mar 2017 1:10 pm » wrote: No men of high integrity who like to schtoop both mothers and their daughters?
Fund was approached and seduced by a woman in her '30's many years after he broke up with her mother.

You falsely accused him of child molestation.

You're a psychopathic liar and a smear artist. :loco:
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