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Misty » 20 Mar 2017 1:56 pm » wrote: I love the way this partisan hack classifies a lie as a 'discrepency' or a 'mistake.'

He's been in office for 60 days.

How did that health care bill and budget proposal go over with his own party?

Is he keeping his promise to the 'forgotten' people that he promised to help?
It looks like his health care plan and his budget would hurt them the most.

Misty » 20 Mar 2017 1:38 pm » wrote: Huey needs to learn the difference between a pathological liar and someone who once 'foolishly reacted to a news article.'

I love that right wingers only have that one lie to point to from the last POTUS.
I could make a list of lies from the current POTUS that would fill a book.

BTW 40-70 what?
Percent? Thousand? Million?

http://www.factcheck.org/2014/04/millio ... insurance/

Misty » 20 Mar 2017 1:27 pm » wrote: Really?
That's what you want to argue about?
That I played dumb on the issue of investigations?
Do you have an examplee of that?

How did your sources know that the FBI was investigating collusion until Comey confirmed it today?
Through the leaks that you hate so much?
That almost sounds just like what I said.
I wasn't willing to say it was over until any and all investigations were complete including today's hearings, and the upcoming Senate Intel Committee hearings.
Seems to me you criticized me for that.
Right, but there are a lot of questions that could not be answered in an open forum.
And it could be that there is no smoking gun to be found.

Like Adam Schiff said, there was a lot of circumstantial evidence of collusion, but there was direct evidence of deception.

Really?
That's what you want to argue about?
That I played dumb on the issue of investigations?
Do you have an examplee of that

Termin8tor » 20 Mar 2017 2:03 pm » wrote:If Trump is so dishonest, why is he keeping so many campaign promises?

Termin8tor » 20 Mar 2017 2:03 pm » wrote:And already kept more than Obama did in eight years, Dim.

DONALD TRUMP ADMITS HIS HEALTH PLAN WILL HURT HIS SUPPORTERS

“A lot of things aren’t consistent” with his campaign message, he told Tucker Carlson.

http://www.vanityfair.com/news/2017/03/ ... -americans

Why Trump's budget may be 'devastating' to his supporters.

Rep. Hal Rogers (R) of Kentucky said his poor, rural district – which voted 80 percent in favor of Trump – would be hit harder than anywhere else in the country.

http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Politics/2 ... supporters

Misty » 20 Mar 2017 2:16 pm » wrote: Like what?

Already broken more you mean.
He promised to drain the swamp and instead he just added more alligators.

He lied to the poor people in rural areas who supported him.
His policies will hurt them the most.
And he's not going to bring back coal and steel jobs.

Misty » 20 Mar 2017 12:42 pm » wrote: I'm not really sure what you mean.
Did you know for sure that the subject of collusion was being investigated by the FBI before Comey acknowledged it today?

I didn't.

My point was that it was a little premature for you to declare it a dead issue until all investigations have been concluded, and apparently they have not been concluded.

Huey » 20 Mar 2017 2:10 pm » wrote:Misty, trump reacted foolishly to a news article. But by all means, since you SUDDENLY ABHOR LYING, carry on.

You are **** hilarious. One of my buddies read your posts. He was curious to know if you are really this childish and ignorant.

Termin8tor » 20 Mar 2017 1:51 pm » wrote:What didn't you mention? That at least one official conceded that serious crimes were committed in order to leak classified info about Trump and associates; literal felonies.
What does a Democrat Talking Point Liar babble endlessly about?
Not about the felonies, which absolutely did happen and were likely committed by Obama officials.No, she babbles about something for which zero evidence exists.

Misty » 20 Mar 2017 2:26 pm » wrote: Clem's head is on fire because the collusion issue is not exactly the dead issue he said it was.

Clem has his Republican talking points down.
Focus on the leaks, forget about the rest.

Clem doesn't even care that the Russians interfered in our election, because they helped his guy.

Termin8tor » 20 Mar 2017 2:22 pm » wrote: It is absolutely outrageous that Trump believes something that the NYTimes reported in a front page story.
Are you sure he doesn't mean demented?

Termin8tor » 20 Mar 2017 2:22 pm » wrote:It is absolutely outrageous that Trump believes something that the NYTimes reported in a front page story.

Huey » 20 Mar 2017 2:33 pm » wrote:Out of respect I cleaned it up a bit. Dude is still laughing his *** off and praying that her schtick is an act. He is ashamed that she has the right to vote,

Spicer on Russia probe: Paul Manafort had a “very limited role” in the campaign for a “very limited amount of time”

Credit where it’s due: He does an able job here for the most part of digesting the sh*t sandwich Comey handed him this morning.

He starts with his strongest point, that to this day no credible evidence has appeared in the media alleging actual collusion between the Trump campaign and Russia last year.

On the contrary, intel pros as high-ranking as James Clapper and Mike Morell have claimed there’s no evidence that the two were in cahoots.

Spicer follows with another strong point: Some of the people named in the media as “Trump associates” in connection with the Russia probe, like Carter Page, were minor players in the campaign.

Even those who weren’t so minor, like Mike Flynn, haven’t been accused of anything truly damning.

Flynn’s phone call with the Russian ambassador in December about lifting sanctions was ambiguous according to every account I’ve read; no guarantees were made by the incoming administration about sanctions relief.

In fact, during his brief time as NSA, Flynn recommended adding the small nation of Montenegro to NATO to try to scare Moscow away from further meddling there.

There is, as Morell said recently, plenty of smoke in the Trump/Russia story, but no fire.

And Spicer’s smart to emphasize that.

But … Paul Manafort, who ended up managing Trump’s campaign for a chunk of 2016, had a “very limited role”?

C’mon. Manafort joined the campaign in late March, more than a month before Trump effectively clinched the nomination by winning Indiana, and hung on for nearly five months.

He was the mastermind of efforts to keep the delegates in line in Cleveland when NeverTrumpers were agitating for a floor revolt.

The smart spin for the White House on Manafort is simply to emphasize that his relationship with Moscow predates his work for the Trump campaign.

He used to work for Putin’s Ukrainian puppet Viktor Yanukovych, a shameful arrangement but one which would have given him a non-Trump reason to be in contact with Russian officials from time to time going forward.

If in fact he was talking to Russians, it may be that that had to do with Ukraine or some other business he had with Russia, not with the campaign.

You can understand why the FBI would want to know more — was the Russia-linked campaign chief for the GOP nominee talking to Russians at a moment when Russia was trying to help the GOP nominee win? — but there’s no hard evidence yet of collusion so far as we know.

Instead of stressing that, Spicer resorts to the ridiculous point that Manafort’s role was “limited.”

And given how he snaps at Jon Karl for interrupting, he seems to know he’s out on a limb.

http://hotair.com/archives/2017/03/20/s ... t-of-time/

Huey » 20 Mar 2017 2:33 pm » wrote: Out of respect I cleaned it up a bit. Dude is still laughing his *** off and praying that her schtick is an act. He is ashamed that she has the right to vote,

Misty » 20 Mar 2017 2:47 pm » wrote: Out of respect? LOL
Is it respectful to constantly accuse someone of being deceptive or calling them ignorant?

You know what's really 'childish, ignorant and demented?'
Two people who seem to believe that Trump only lied once because he 'foolishly reacted' to something he read in what he calls the FAKE failing NY Times.

Why would he even believe anything he read in a paper that he constantly tells us not to believe?

What about these lies?
Just more foolish reactions?



Now you, Clem and your buddy can carry on insulting me and laughing at me.
I won't respond.
And spare me the respect ****, okay Huey?
A leopard never changes it's spots.

In recent years, Committee members have issued repeated and forceful pleas for stronger action against Russian belligerence.

But the Obama administration was committed to the notion, against all evidence, that we could “reset” relations with Putin, and it routinely ignored our warnings.

Huey » 20 Mar 2017 12:50 pm » wrote: I never declared it a dead issue. And yes, you played dumb on the issue of investigations. BEFORE I posted the links to what you poo poohed as ring wing sources I also posted numerous articles from MSM sources that you blew off.

Additionally, I never said they were over.

I did say that I was no longer going to offer an opinion on the validity of collusion charges because at this time nothing has been released, and the standard line is still there is no evidence.

Furthermore, there has been not a single smoking gun from these hearings.

Misty » 20 Mar 2017 2:47 pm » wrote:What about these lies?
Just more foolish reactions?

1) 3 to 5 million people voted illegally in 2016.

Now you, Clem and your buddy can carry on insulting me and laughing at me.
I won't respond.
And spare me the respect ****, okay Huey?
A leopard never changes it's spots.

Huey » 20 Mar 2017 3:36 pm » wrote:
There is your first lie. Care to apologize? I never said it was a dead issue.

**** pathological liar.

Termin8tor » 20 Mar 2017 3:40 pm » wrote: Isn't it amazing that she lies over and over in attributing things to us we never said?

Just a coincidence that the Democrat Party operates the same way.

"**** pathological liar" is right.