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Oh yeah, because Big Pharma is teetering on the brink of bankruptcy.They only made a piddling $83.9 billion in 2012.Asshat.Hey moonbat, the coal-generated electricity business was doing very well, yet Obama's driving them out of business one by one.And that has what to do with Big Pharma?Hey look a squirrel!Hey Puss, How do you feel about the fact that Big Pharma has been systematically price gouging the Medicare program for seniors and people with disabilities, and raking in billions in excessive profits?Is that just the free market at work?Even assuming I accept your claim, since when is Medicare a "free market" program?Duuuh.I was talking about the pharmaceutical industry.Duuuh.Of course government programs will be abused by Big Business.And you're okay with that. You don't care how many billions of taxpayer dollars they rip us off for.But try and help feed some poor people with food stamps and you start braying like a jackass about how we're getting ripped off.

Misty, on 24 Apr 2013 - 11:31, said: Oh yeah, because Big Pharma is teetering on the brink of bankruptcy. They only made a piddling $83.9 billion in 2012. Asshat. Hey moonbat, the coal-generated electricity business was doing very well, yet Obama's driving them out of business one by one. And that has what to do with Big Pharma? Hey look a squirrel! I was talking about the pharmaceutical industry. Duuuh. Are you stupid or just pretending to be? I was making the point that any industry is terribly vulnerable to federal power. Duuuh yourself. Of course government programs will be abused by Big Business. And you're okay with that. You don't care how many billions of taxpayer dollars they rip us off for. But try and help feed some poor people with food stamps and you start braying like a jackass about how we're getting ripped off. Oh look, the troll's cutting my quotes, then lying. As usual. Here's the rest of what I said. That's why conservatives oppose massive government programs; because they end up rife with fraud, waste and abuse.

That's why conservatives oppose massive government programs; because they end up rife with fraud, waste and abuse.Medicare part d, tard.She left it out because it is an obvious lie.

Secret Tape: Top GOP Consultant Luntz Calls Limbaugh "Problematic"Frank Luntz, the media-friendly Republican consultant and word wiz, told a group of college students this week that Rush Limbaugh and right-wing talk radio are "problematic" for the GOP and partly responsible for the stark polarization within the nation's political discourse. He only dared to speak so candidly about Limbaugh and other conservative hosts off the record. A secretly recorded video, though, captured Luntz's remark.On April 22, Luntz was holding a talk at his alma mater, the University of Pennsylvania, and providing his essential take on political communication: "It's not what you say that matters. It's what people hear." At this event sponsored by College Republicans, Luntz (class of '84) cracked a joke about Nancy Pelosi and face-lifts and acknowledged his party needs to interact more effectively with a wider swath of Americans: "We can't talk to 51 percent of America. It just doesn't work." And, he emphasized, words matter. (In 2009, Luntz urged GOPers to decry President Barack Obama's health care reform proposal as a "government takeover" in order to defeat it.) Voters, Luntz told the students, respond more positively when a politician refers to "hardworking taxpayers" than to "the middle class." He warned that if his party did not resolve its internal divides, it could lose the House of Representatives next year.At one point, Luntz was asked about political polarization. He replied that he had something important to say on this matter but was apprehensive about speaking openly; doing so, he explained, could land him in trouble. Members of the audience groaned; some called out for Luntz to continue off the record. Luntz asked if anyone was recording the event, and Eric Kaplan, a reporter from the college paper, the Daily Pennsylvanian, indicated that he was. Luntz requested that he turn off his recording device. Kaplan did so and agreed that this part of Luntz's talk would remain off the record. But one of the students present, Aakash Abbi, a junior majoring in philosophy, politics, and economics, started to record Luntz on his iPhone (without letting Luntz know), and Abbi has provided that recording to Mother Jones.Believing he was speaking privately to the dozens of students present, Luntz proceeded to gripe about conservative talk radio and its impact on political polarization:And they get great ratings, and they drive the message, and it's really problematic. And this is not on the Democratic side. It's only on the Republican side(inaudible). (Democrats have) got every other source of news on their side. And so that is a lot of what's driving it. If you take-Marco Rubio's getting his *** kicked. Who's my Rubio fan here? We talked about it. He's getting destroyed! By Mark Levin, by Rush Limbaugh, and a few others. He's trying to find a legitimate, long-term effective solution to immigration that isn't the traditional Republican approach, and talk radio is killing him. That's what's causing this thing underneath. And too many politicians in Washington are playing coy.Watch the video at link in title.Cue the drug addled gasbag to attack Frank Luntz.

The Bizarre Mark Sanford Debates Photo Of Nancy PelosiDid you ever think that Clint Eastwood's empty chair routine would find an admirer from another GOP candidate? Well it has. It's not Mitt Romney since he's gone, or Rand Paul, but an unbalanced Mark Sanford. What caused this new meltdown from Mr. Appalachian Trails? Maybe it was because Republicans pulled his national funding over his unbalanced behavior towards his ex-wife:Following revelations that his ex-wife accused him of trespassing on her property earlier this year, former South Carolina governor Mark Sanford (R-SC) has lost the support of his national party.Could be. I know he's not happy that Elizabeth Colbert Busch has jumped out to a nine point lead over him. That's probably it. But you know, he's very upset that Elizabeth won't debate him as many times as he wants, so what does he do? He gets jiggy with reality by hosting a press conference while debating a cut-out poster of Nancy Pelosi. You heard that right: Nancy Pelosi.Republican Mark Sanford debated a poster of House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi today as a means of calling out opponent Elizabeth Colbert Busch for not debating him in the 1st Congressional District race.Read more at link in title.

The Bizarre Mark Sanford Debates Photo Of Nancy Pelosi Wow, little Miss Marxist has found another issue of huge importance to all Americans. Won't touch Obama's 11% real unemployment rate though. And now that she's ignored that fact for years, she'll bleat in outrage that I'm repeating it. Hey, there's honest debate for you!

I was making the point that any industry is terribly vulnerable to federal power.The only ones who are terribly vulnerable are we taxpayers, to private industry and the members of Congress that they own.They seem to get whatever they want.Question: Why is Medicare, the nation's largest purchaser of drugs, prohibited by law from bargaining for better prices?Answer: That would be because Big Pharma's lobbyists wrote the Medicare Part D bill.Medicare Part D has been a huge windfall for the pharmaceutical industry.

I was making the point that any industry is terribly vulnerable to federal power. The only ones who are terribly vulnerable are we taxpayers, to private industry and the members of Congress that they own. They seem to get whatever they want. "The only ones?" Great job at ignoring my point about how Obama is driving most coal-generated electricity plants out of business. Like Obama-care will drive most health insurance companies out of business in the medium term future. It is unpreventable that big government programs like Medicare, Medicaid etc. will lead to multiple disasters; exploitation by Big Business, shortages, declining service and shortages, looming bankruptcy. Duuuh. Question: Why is Medicare, the nation's largest purchaser of drugs, prohibited by law from bargaining for better prices? Answer: That would be because Big Pharma's lobbyists wrote the Medicare Part D bill. Medicare Part D has been a huge windfall for the pharmaceutical industry. No, because the massive power of a the biggest purchaser would reduce profits to the point that there would be minimal incentive to develop more drugs. Minimal profit, minimal investment. Duuh again. Little Miss Marxist won't touch Obama's 11% real unemployment rate

Wow, little Miss Marxist has found another issue of huge importance to all Americans. Won't touch Obama's 11% real unemployment rate though.You touch it enough for both of us.And now that she's ignored that fact for years, she'll bleat in outrage that I'm repeating it. Hey, there's honest debate for you! Honest debate is not targeting, following and harassing (your words) someone on an internet forum for years.First of all why should I even trust that 11% figure coming from a known liar like you?And secondly, you classify it as 'Obama's' unemployment rate, which I reject out of hand.Your party has hamstrung him by blocking any kind of legislation that he's tried to get through to create jobs.So your question is based on a false premise and deserves no response.

Wow, little Miss Marxist has found another issue of huge importance to all Americans. Won't touch Obama's 11% real unemployment rate though. And now that she's ignored that fact for years, she'll bleat in outrage that I'm repeating it. Hey, there's honest debate for you! Honest debate is not targeting, following and harassing (your words) someone on an internet forum for years. Except that you didn't respond the first time, second time, third time, fourth time, fifth time, sixth time........ Honest debate isn't possible with someone like you who stonewalls hugely important facts literally for years. First of all why should I even trust that 11% figure coming from a known liar like you? Yes, you have been taking Troll Lessons from little skeptic. Ignore the facts and accuse the other side of lying. I've cited likely 100 sources to back this up, including the NYTimes and Chris Mathews & guests. And secondly, you classify it as 'Obama's' unemployment rate, which I reject out of hand. Of course you do, because you're a lying, partisan troll. Your party has hamstrung him by blocking any kind of legislation that he's tried to get through to create jobs. Oh how cute, the standard Democrat Talking Point Lie. He got his full package of economic policies, moonbat, and on that basis predicted that unemployment would be roughly 5% by now. Democrat liars like you blame Repubs. So your question is based on a false premise and deserves no response. Translation into honest English: You're a hopeless lying troll and partisan hack.

"The only ones?" Great job at ignoring my point about how Obama is driving most coal-generated electricity plants out of business.He's promoting cleaner forms of energy. Shame on him! LOLLike Obama-care will drive most health insurance companies out of business in the medium term future.Yes, because getting millions of new customers will surely drive them out of business.They will have one last big windfall, before we hopefully transition to a single-payer system.Except that you didn't respond the first time, second time, third time, fourth time, fifth time, sixth time........You tend to ask 'when did you stop beating your wife' type questions.I do not respond to questions based on a false premise.

"The only ones?" Great job at ignoring my point about how Obama is driving most coal-generated electricity plants out of business. He's promoting cleaner forms of energy. Shame on him! LOL Putting aside that his alternative energy companies are going bankrupt one by one at massive taxpayer expense, wasting taxpayer money on alternative energy has nothing to do with his EPA bankrupting coal plants. Duuuh. And as usual, you ignore my larger point about how vulnerable private industry is to massive federal power wielded by a leftist politician. Like Obama-care will drive most health insurance companies out of business in the medium term future. Yes, because getting millions of new customers will surely drive them out of business. They will have one last big windfall, before we hopefully transition to a single-payer system. As Obama deceitfully intended to do all along. Drive all private insurance companies out of business. Thanks for admitting you're a radical leftist, not the moderate you've pretended to be. Except that you didn't respond the first time, second time, third time, fourth time, fifth time, sixth time........ You tend to ask 'when did you stop beating your wife' type questions. I do not respond to questions based on a false premise. Yes, you've taken Troll Lessons. You must have a post-graduate degree in Stonewalling and Evasion.

Duuuh.You really are a special brand of crazy Puss.You should donate your brain to science.I'm sure they'll find something really interesting in there.

You really are a special brand of crazy Puss. You should donate your brain to science. I'm sure they'll find something really interesting in there. What's the mental state of someone who for years has regurgitated every blatant lie the Democrat Party has told? Who smears innocent people as child molesters? Get some help, moonbat.

What's the mental state of someone who for years has regurgitated every blatant lie the Democrat Party has told? >>> Who smears innocent people as child molesters? Get some help, moonbat. Me comes to mind. Why just minutes ago and most every day I walk up to Righties and say, "You damn baby-raping freak!! Go commit seppuku suicide with a chain saw you perverted waste of human flesh!!!" And sure; I admit; it's terribly unfair, since there's probably a good 20 to 30 percent chance the Rightie is not a child molester and only rapes 18 and over victims.

Congressman Finally Takes Action To Remove Needless Requirement Bankrupting The Postal ServiceRep. Peter DeFazio (D-OR) has introduced legislation to try to save the US Postal Service from its incipient bankruptcy, and he is asking for the public to help him pass it.DeFazios bill would repeal the needless requirement one no other business or entity must face that the Postal Service pre-fund 75 years worth of employee health benefits. That requirement has hugely contributed to the USPS defaulting for the first and then second time in its history last year. Analysis from 2012 estimated that the USPS would have a $1.5 billion surplus without the benefit requirement.But DeFazio recognizes that facts alone will not influence his colleagues to take up and pass the legislation, so he has also turned to the White Houses petition platform, We The People, to petition President Obama to take a stand against the health benefit requirement. He also points out many of the other flaws in how Congress has managed the postal service:About 80% of USPS financial losses since 2007 are due to a Congressional mandate to prefund 75 years of future retiree health benefits over 10 years. In 2012 USPS lost a record $15.9 billion, but $11.1 billion of that loss went to prefund healthcare. This must change.USPS shouldnt move to 5-day delivery. This would only save 3%, risk further revenue losses, and slow mail delivery.USPS needs to re-establish overnight delivery standards to ensure the timely delivery of mail and prevent the closure of mail plants.USPS needs to generate more revenue by ending a 2006 ban prohibiting USPS from offering new products and services.Does the Administration support HR 630 and S 316 to make these changes, save American jobs, and allow USPS to remain competitive?Some conservatives have made the argument that having a national postal service is frivolous in the age of private delivery companies and email, but that ignores the fact that rural Americans dont enjoy those services with the same regularity that urban and suburban Amercians do. For the elderly and for rural Americans, closed post offices and slowed delivery mean less consistent communication. It can also mean more economic inequality.There is absolutely no reason why the Postal Service is forced to prefund 75 years' worth of employee health benefits in a ten year window. Or why they are banned from generating more revenue by being able to offer new products and services.The 2006 bill was designed for no other reason than to put them out of business.

There is absolutely no reason why the Postal Service is forced to prefund 75 years' worth of employee health benefits in a ten year window. Or why they are banned from generating more revenue by being able to offer new products and services. The 2006 bill was designed for no other reason than to put them out of business. Agreed. Just fund it, since it is in fact the only government service specifically mandated in the Constitution.

There is absolutely no reason why the Postal Service is forced to prefund 75 years' worth of employee health benefits in a ten year window. Maybe because it was so appallingly fiscally irresponsible and didn't budget for retirement costs before? Because postal employees expected to go to Congress again looking for a taxpayer bailout? I'll bet blind that's true. Or why they are banned from generating more revenue by being able to offer new products and services. Because just like mail service, there's the big risk that it will use its political influence and force of federal law to drive private sector competitors out of business. Just like private companies are forbidden by federal law to put letters in private citizens' mailboxes. What private company enjoys that unfair advantage? The 2006 bill was designed for no other reason than to put them out of business. The ridiculous over-compensation of postal workers and their general laziness is what will drive it out of business. Private companies generally devote roughly 40% of gross to salaries and retirement costs. The Post Office pays 65%. That's a recipe for bankruptcy.