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Termin8tor » 29 Apr 2017 8:12 am » wrote: Speaking of learning to read, and comprehend, read our exchange again, psycho.

If revenues rose by 13% annually after his 2nd tax cut, Bush's tax cut reduced what the debt would have been when he was president.

The opposite of what she was claiming.

Cannonpointer » 29 Apr 2017 8:37 pm » wrote:Convicts work on the side of the road, moocher. The Constitution allows for that, too - doesn't make me respect them.

Green fatigues, orange jump suits - makes me no never mind.

Huey » 29 Apr 2017 8:44 pm » wrote:
Actually, green fatigues were traded in for BDUs in 84. Get your terminology correct.

These pawn shop soldiers are a hoot. You must try harder. Over the last 15 years of posting I have heard this line of reasoning from dope head progs so many times it gets tiring.

Did you lose your originality on your last SNAP benefit spending trip?

Misty » 29 Apr 2017 2:44 pm » wrote: And you seem to be ignorant about the fact that there is no filibuster in the HOUSE, which is what both 45 and I were talking about.

But since you brought it up, please inform me of one major piece of legislation that is currently being blocked in the Senate by a Democratic filibuster.
For that matter, please inform me of one major piece of legislation that has even made it to the Senate to be blocked.
Poor Bilko ignores the fact that 45 is on track to blast every other president's vacation budget out of the stratosphere.

Obama went to his home state of Hawaii to visit his family once a year for the holidays.
Obama’s Hawaii Christmas vacations cost taxpayers $35 million over 8 years.

His total trips combined cost taxpayers $97 million over 8 years.

45's trips to Florida have cost $20 million in just the first 100 days.
Donald Trump’s Mar-a-Lago trips cost taxpayers estimated $20m in 100 days.

That was a feeble attempt, even for you.

Cannonpointer » 29 Apr 2017 8:40 pm » wrote: Incorrect.

Rising revenues are only half of the picture - increased spending offsets that.

The pretense that rising revenues are LINKED to the tax cuts is your and yours alone - your implicit pretense that we agree with voodoo economics is dishonest, ape. Our position is that without those tax cuts, revenues would have risen MORE.

The ‘King of Whoppers’: Donald Trump

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He stands out not only for the sheer number of his factually false claims, but also for his brazen refusals to admit error when proven wrong.

Here are 100 Lies and False Statements From Trump’s First 100 Days

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We don’t take calling things “lies” lightly. (See our definitions at the top of this article.) And we don't suggest that Trump is the first president in history to lie: As I.F. Stone once wrote, “All governments lie.”

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Fact-Checking President Trump Through His First 100 Days

Misty » 30 Apr 2017 12:31 pm » wrote:

Huey » 30 Apr 2017 1:06 pm » wrote:Well, I guess he needs to golf more and make less off the cuff statements.

Huey » 30 Apr 2017 1:06 pm » wrote: Maybe next he will tell stories concerning how his grandmother lost her Healthcare coverage....oh, wait, that's already been done.
My bad...

Misty » 30 Apr 2017 1:22 pm » wrote: Off the cuff statements?
Seriously?
Is that your excuse?
Why are you so willing to debase yourself by defending his lying?

Misty » 30 Apr 2017 1:22 pm » wrote: Off the cuff statements?
Seriously?
Is that your excuse?
Why are you so willing to debase yourself by defending his lying?
Have no idea what that means.

Huey » 30 Apr 2017 1:24 pm » wrote: So this is not the satire thread. You told me that once. Next, I'll make my own arguments, thank you. Those kind of comments start ****.

Anyhoo, the majority of those comments (yes, I actually read the information others provide, hint hint) are off the cuff comments that have nothing to do with comments. When he starts lying about his policy initiatives, something like most families will see a 2400 dollar annual decrease in premiums, or if you like your doctor you can keep your doctor, or the police acted stupidity, etc, I will get excited.

But at this point he needs to keep his mouth shut and stop the off the cuff comments unless he has is facts straight. All this does is provide fodder for the loons and those that follow them.

Huey » 30 Apr 2017 1:26 pm » wrote:I'm not making excuses. See my last post. I didn't use the argument you tried to bait me into making.
Why are you so willing to debase yourself by lying about the opinions of others?
Don't complain. I used basically your words.

Trump says rally crowd broke records despite empty seats.

President Trump claimed his 100-day rally in Pennsylvania on Saturday night broke attendance records, though journalists pointed out rows of empty seats at the expo center where the event was held.

Misty » 30 Apr 2017 1:35 pm » wrote: I'm not quite as ignorant as you try to portray me.
You defended his lying by blaming it on 'off the cuff' statements.
You're devolving into RichClem territory with the use of weasel words like that.

And it's pretty arrogant of you to think that I was trying to 'bait' you into an argument as if all of my posts here are aimed at you.

Huey » 30 Apr 2017 1:24 pm » wrote: So this is not the satire thread. You told me that once. Next, I'll make my own arguments, thank you. Those kind of comments start ****.

Anyhoo, the majority of those comments (yes, I actually read the information others provide, hint hint) are off the cuff comments that have nothing to do with comments. When he starts lying about his policy initiatives, something like most families will see a 2400 dollar annual decrease in premiums, or if you like your doctor you can keep your doctor, or the police acted stupidity, etc, I will get excited.

But at this point he needs to keep his mouth shut and stop the off the cuff comments unless he has is facts straight. All this does is provide fodder for the loons and those that follow them.

crimsongulf » 30 Apr 2017 2:46 pm » wrote:He still won and the markets and business have responded. No amount of crying, whining, etc.. can change that.