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Huey » 02 May 2017 6:27 pm » wrote:Speaking to the posters commentary it misses the mark as most leftist comments do.

Huey » 02 May 2017 6:27 pm » wrote: It is not a matter of not wanting to allow others HC as the parroted talking point goes. It is a matter of how to do it.

Misty » 03 May 2017 12:09 am » wrote: Okay, but what does that have to do with Gorka wearing the medal in 2017?

Cannonpointer » 03 May 2017 1:01 am » wrote:Very simple: A storied outfit that fought against Stalin - and lost - is probably going to have a deep sense of history and pride. It's highly unlikely that some deep connection to Nazism is interwoven in that heritage. The more likely reality is that they feel some connection to a previous noble house. How much ya wanna bet they were in some way connected to royalty, with the arch-conservative aim of restoring the monarchy or some such?

Cannonpointer » 03 May 2017 1:01 am » wrote:Look, I haven't gone and done the full google - I'm just saying there's six degrees of kevin bacon between barak and adolph hitler.

Misty » 03 May 2017 1:11 am » wrote: Well here is something that might shed some light on the issue.
It's from a Liberal website, but it has a lot of sources in it.

Did Gorka Really Wear A Medal Linked To Nazi Ally To Trump Inaugural Ball?

Hungarian scholars who spoke to TPM did not unanimously agree that the medal he wore on inauguration night could definitively be identified with Horthy’s Order of Vitéz. But they concurred that Gorka’s regalia is popular today among Hungary’s nationalist conservatives.

Cannonpointer » 03 May 2017 1:16 am » wrote:Yeah, I'm just not gonna roll down nazi lane with caveats like this in even an unfriendly piece:
I drink milk, and so did hitler, but that doesn't mean I believe in the holocaust.

White House Nazi Maybe YOU’RE FIRED! No, The Other White House Nazi.

It sounds like the #Resistance might be working again, sorta kinda!

Reports have been swirling since Friday that Sebastian Gorka (whatever you do, don’t call him “Doctor Gorka”), the Hungarian Nazi who might have become a U.S. citizen under false pretenses, and whose “Ph.D” is, ahem, not actually a Ph.D by American standards, may be losing his job as a counter-terrorism adviser in the White House.

It’s not that he’s not qualified for the position — after all, he WAS a Breitbart editor.

It’s just that, you know, he’s a **** Nazi and stuff.

And he doesn’t seem to have the appropriate security clearance, which is probably Obama’s fault somehow. (He couldn’t get one in Hungary either. Unfair!)

Misty » 03 May 2017 1:27 am » wrote: I'm not saying he's a Nazi.
I'm just saying that if there is any question about the medal being associated with the Nazis, maybe you don't wear it to the inauguration.

I think I read that the medal originally belonged to Gorka's father.

Check this out.

Sebastian Gorka Made Nazi-Linked Vitezi Rend ‘Proud’ by Wearing Its Medal

APR 8 2017, 9:40 AM ETSebastian Gorka Made Nazi-Linked Vitezi Rend ‘Proud’ by Wearing Its Medal

Misty » 03 May 2017 1:11 am » wrote: That might be true, but isn't a little tone deaf to wear such a controversial medal to the inauguration?

Cannonpointer » 03 May 2017 1:35 am » wrote:Not only do I not believe the man's a nazi - I don't believe the people pretending to believe he MIGHT be a nazi believe he's a nazi.

Misty » 03 May 2017 1:45 am » wrote: Maybe, but it seems like it's costing him his job in the White House, that he really didn't seem to be qualified for anyway.
So maybe the Nazi thing was just an excuse to get rid of him.

Misty » 03 May 2017 12:59 am » wrote: Who are you speaking to about my commentary?

Not true.
There are some on the right who feel that access to health care is not a right.

For example Rep. Raúl Labrador (R-Idaho), who says that he does not believe that health care is a basic human right.

And Rep. Patrick Meehan (R-PA) said today that many of his Republican colleagues feel the same way.
That people are not entitled to health care.

If it's not a right, then what does that make it?
A privilege?

Misty » 03 May 2017 12:01 am » wrote: So what's your excuse for all the time you spend in this thread and my other thread every day?

Good grammar there BTW.
WTF?
Dancing on the grapes tonight, are we?

Misty » 02 May 2017 6:53 pm » wrote:I didn't watch FOX and somehow I managed to get that news.
And a lot more accurately than you did apparently.

If you think that you are getting the full story on FOX News, then you are deluding yourself.
The amount of issues that they do not cover is astounding.

Misty » 03 May 2017 12:59 am » wrote:There are some on the right who feel that access to health care is not a right.

For example Rep. Raúl Labrador (R-Idaho), who says that he does not believe that health care is a basic human right.

And Rep. Patrick Meehan (R-PA) said today that many of his Republican colleagues feel the same way.
That people are not entitled to health care.

If it's not a right, then what does that make it?
A privilege?

Misty » 03 May 2017 12:26 am » wrote:Not true.
I have criticized him for his inappropriate behavior with Monica Lewinsky, for some of his policies and for the bone headed move to board Loretta Lynch's plane that day on the tarmac in Arizona among other things.

Your beef is that I won't say that I am 100% sure that he raped Juanita Broaddrick.
The only two people who know for sure if that happened are the two people who were present in that room.

Misty » 01 May 2017 1:21 am » wrote:Pence is a liar too, but no one ever calls him on his lies.

Comey Says Hillary's Team Broke the Law, but Not With Intent
BY PJ VIDEO MAY 3, 2017 CHAT 12 COMMENTS
FBI Director James Comey testified that the FBI took the investigation into Hillary Clinton's team, over their email security, very seriously. The main problem keeping the FBI from indicting Clinton seems to be that they couldn't prove intent. The bureau, however, proved that Clinton's team did not follow classified information security procedures.
Sen. John Kennedy (R-LA) tried to examine other crimes in which intent was not necessary to prove guilt, like torture.
https://pjmedia.com/video/comey-says-hi ... th-intent/

FBI Investigating Possible Leaks To Rudy Giuliani About Hillary Clinton Email Investigation

FBI Director James Comey told senators Wednesday that the agency is looking into whether employees leaked information about the investigation into Hillary Clinton’s emails to members of Donald Trump’s team, including Rudy Giuliani.

Shortly before the election, Comey announced that he was reopening the probe into Clinton’s private server after more emails were found on the computer of former Rep. Anthony Weiner (D-N.Y.), who was married to a top Clinton aide.

A few days later, Giuliani went on Fox News and bragged that he knew in advance about the new emails.

“Did I hear about it? You’re darn right I heard about it,” said Giuliani, a prominent Trump surrogate and former New York City mayor.

He added that he had expected the news to come out weeks before.

Comey said he didn’t yet know whether anyone in the FBI had leaked information about the investigation to Giuliani or others, but it was a matter that he was “very very interested in.”

“If I find out that people were leaking information about our investigations, whether to reporters or to private parties, there will be severe consequences,” he told Sen. Pat Leahy (D-Vt.) in testimony before the Senate Judiciary Committee Wednesday.

“But you are looking into it?” Leahy asked.

“Correct,” Comey replied.

He said he would let the committee know the findings of this investigation, although he might not release them publicly.

Mr. Giuliani has publicly claimed that F.B.I. agents were telling him that Mrs. Clinton should have been criminally charged for the email server.

“It perplexes numerous F.B.I. agents who talk to me all the time,” Mr. Giuliani said during an August interview with Chris Cuomo on CNN.

“And it embarrasses some F.B.I. agents.”
[....]
“You have outraged F.B.I. agents that talk to me,” Mr. Giuliani said in an interview on Wednesday with Megyn Kelly on Fox News.

“They are outraged at the injustice. They are outraged at being turned down by the Justice Department to open a grand jury.

They are convinced that Loretta Lynch has corrupted the Justice Department.”

https://www.nytimes.com/2016/11/04/nyre ... .html?_r=0

Termin8tor » 03 May 2017 1:34 pm » wrote:Pence is as honest a politician as can be found in Wash DC, so you're only proving your mental illness.

Termin8tor » 03 May 2017 1:29 pm » wrote:Yes, those are the standard Democrat Talking Points.
Not one single word about his felonies, impeachable acts or his countless sociopathic lies.

Termin8tor » 03 May 2017 1:29 pm » wrote:Which never stopped you from accusing conservatives of crimes or worse, despite weak or nonexistent evidence.

Termin8tor » 03 May 2017 1:29 pm » wrote:Broaddrick's accusation was enough for a slam dunk conviction, with 3 or 4 contemporaneous witnesses who saw her distress and badly bitten lip.
How did her lip get bitten, psycho?

Misty » 03 May 2017 2:26 pm » wrote: You're a real piece of work.
You say I never criticized Bubba, so I list some criticisms and you brush it off as 'standard Democrat Talking Points.'
There's no winning with you.

Pot.....meet kettle.
You have a very different standard of proof when it comes to Democrats than you do for Republicans.
You don't know for a fact that a Democrat committed a crime.
You just know that it's true.

I don't know.
Maybe you did it.

I guess along with being an expert on women's shoe designs, you're also legal expert now.

Misty » 03 May 2017 2:11 pm » wrote:
****.
He lied to Bret Baier on March 9th, 2017 when he said that it was the first he ever heard about Flynn working for Turkey.
There were several media reports about it in November, 2016.
He was sent a letter about it in Nov. from the House Oversight Committee, and also in November Flynn's lawyers talked to the transition team (which Pence ran) about it.

The law about classified information doesn't say one thing about "intent," but Comey by himself let Hillary off on that non existent standard.

Anyone else would have been indicted.