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Kentucky Coal Mining Museum Switches To Solar Power

The Kentucky Coal Mining Museum is switching to a new form of energy -- solar power.

The museum in Benham began installing the solar panels on Tuesday, WYMT reported.

Brandon Robinson, the museum's communications director, said the goal is to save money in the long run.

"We believe that this project will help save at least $8,000 to $10,000 off the energy costs on this building alone," Robinson told WYMT.

The museum is owned by Southeast Kentucky Community and Technical College.

Robinson said the savings would go back to the school and its students.

Robinson admitted the switch from coal to solar energy is "a little ironic," but said the two power sources work "hand-in-hand."

"And, of course, coal is still king around here," Robinson said.

The project is being funded through an outside foundation and will cost thousands of dollars, according to Robinson.

Twenty solar panels, the average needed to power a house, would cost between $17,000 and $20,000 to install, though the costs would be recouped from savings within five to seven years, according to WYMT.

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/04/06/ke ... power.html
Robinson admitted the switch from coal to solar energy is "a little ironic."
Ya think?
If this keeps up, 45 is not going to be able to bring back those coal jobs.
Not that he ever was.
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Misty » 04 May 2017 6:55 pm » wrote: Robinson admitted the switch from coal to solar energy is "a little ironic."
Ya think?
If this keeps up, 45 is not going to be able to bring back those coal jobs.
Not that he ever was.
With citizens like you it is no wonder your state voted for them. Hell, your agenda first!
BV is in question time out indefinitely, until he takes the pledge to answer questions one for one.

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Popular Vote Totals 2024 viewtopic.php?p=2685476#p2685476
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Huey » 04 May 2017 6:35 pm » wrote: Obamacare is collapsing in front of your eyes, but who do you claim is the failure? The president who seems to have repealed it. :rofl: :rofl:

Hack.
Seems to have?
Weasel words.
You get more like Clem every day.

Hack.
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Huey » 04 May 2017 6:57 pm » wrote: With citizens like you it is no wonder your state voted for them. Hell, your agenda first!
Them who?
I don't even understand your reply.
What do you mean by 'my agenda?'

I posted that story because I thought it was ironic that a coal museum is switching to solar power.

Why are you always trying to read some nefarious motive into everything I post?
Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar.
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Misty » 04 May 2017 6:58 pm » wrote: Seems to have?
Weasel words.
You get more like Clem every day.

Hack.
I wrote that, Dim, and I didn't use "weasel words," liar.

Given that it still has to pass the Senate, then go back to the House, a final bill isn't assured.
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Misty » 04 May 2017 6:58 pm » wrote: Seems to have?
Weasel words.
You get more like Clem every day.

Hack.
Why didn't you respond to this, liar? Because it refutes your propaganda, of course.
Termin8tor » 03 May 2017 4:08 pm » wrote:No, I don't accept union propaganda, certainly not from a liar like you.

Here's a highly credible source with no dog in the fight.

If the Post Office was so financially sound, why were they seeking a taxpayer bailout, liar?

The Post Office is a great example of public employees unions lining their pockets and trying to stick taxpayers with the bill.
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Misty » 04 May 2017 7:08 pm » wrote:Why are you always trying to read some nefarious motive into everything I post?
Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar.
Oh does this invite double entrende's.

When are you going to back up your stupid claims about the Constitution? :rofl:
Termin8tor » 04 May 2017 4:14 pm » wrote: Where in the actual Constitution is there a "wall between church and state," Dim?

Quote it.

But you won't, because you're a leftist liar and a blowhard.
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He was quoting Pelosie when ACA was passed Dippidy Doo!!! Pure Democrat idiocy!!! ACA was created by Democrats without any allowed input from Republicans and was passed without any Republican voting for it. Obama won the prestigious Pinocchio Award for his lies about it. Democrats have it hung around their neck!!! Now many Democrats are having second thoughts about it!!! Poor pitiful Democrats. Look at the results of the Obama administration.

Obama's doubling the debt while spending $900 billion average a year in deficit while presiding over a dismal 1.4 average GDP the lowest average of any president since WWII. Also having employment drop by 8 million full time jobs and increasing part time jobs. He created Obama Care which he won the prestigious Pinocchio Award for by promising cheaper insurance and keeping your doctor. It cost more and lots of doctors failed to sign up since it didn't pay enough to break even. The results of progressive idiocy. The result is a backlash with the following and Democrats have to live with their results.

1. President and Congress are Republican.
2. State governors and legislatures in 36 states are Republican.
3. Only 6 states are Democrat.
4. The remaining states went from Democrat to mixed.

The county election map of the country shows a sea of red with two spots of blue in southern California and southern NY.

Thank you Obama!!!

Poor Misty is unable to understand why!!!
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Look at these three.
With the amount of time they spend in this thread, you would think that this was the only thread on this forum.

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Termin8tor » 04 May 2017 9:20 am » wrote:Where did little Miss Marxist go?
Running away on little troll feet when her lies are exposed.
I'm not running from anything.
I stopped answering my notifications a long time ago, because I found that I was spending all of my time here replying to the three of you obsessive freaks who pound out posts like you're getting paid piece work.

So if I happen to see one of your posts, I might reply, but you shouldn't expect, nor do you deserve, any more consideration than that.
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Misty » 04 May 2017 7:24 pm » wrote:Look at these three.
With the amount of time they spend in this thread, you would think that this was the only thread on this forum.

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I'm not running from anything.
I stopped answering my notifications a long time ago, because I found that I was spending all of my time here replying to the three of you obsessive freaks who pound out posts like you're getting paid piece work.

So if I happen to see one of your posts, I might reply, but you shouldn't expect, nor do you deserve, any more consideration than that.
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Your signature sums up your idiocy. You keep persisting in spite of using Fake News aka LIES!!!
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Sgt Bilko » 04 May 2017 7:15 pm » wrote: He was quoting Pelosie when ACA was passed Dippidy Doo!!!
No he was not, fill in the blank.
Why would Nancy Pelosi have said that about the ACA in 2009?
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Then, in an appearance on MSNBC in July 2009, Ryan personally criticized the Democrats’ procedural handling of the bill in the House.

"I don't think we should pass bills that we haven't read, that we don't know what they cost," Ryan said.

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Sgt Bilko » 04 May 2017 7:15 pm » wrote:Pure Democrat idiocy!!! ACA was created by Democrats without any allowed input from Republicans and was passed without any Republican voting for it.
And the ACHA was created by Republicans without any allowed input from Democrats and was passed without any Democrat voting for it.
Also unlike the ACA, with hardly any hearings or debate and without being scored by the CBO.
Sgt Bilko » 04 May 2017 7:15 pm » wrote:Obama won the prestigious Pinocchio Award for his lies about it.
An award that will soon be bestowed upon 45, who promised everyone would be covered and it would be much better care and much cheaper.
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Sgt Bilko » 04 May 2017 7:29 pm » wrote:Your signature sums up your idiocy. You keep persisting in spite of using Fake News aka LIES!!!
So when you said that Paul Ryan was quoting Nancy Pelosi in 2009 when he said......"I don't think we should pass bills that we haven't read, that we don't know what they cost."........was that idiocy, FAKE News, or were you lying?
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Misty » 04 May 2017 7:24 pm » wrote:Look at these three. I'm not running from anything.
Liar.

You've run from questions for over a decade, like you run from the strongest evidence.

You always pull a disappearing act. :\
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Another useless Executive Order
Trump’s Executive Order on Religious Liberty Is Worse Than Useless

Freedom must be written into law, not wish-cast through commands that a later president can reverse.

Fresh on the heels of a budget deal that fully funds Planned Parenthood, Donald Trump has signed a religious-liberty executive order that — if reports are correct — is constitutionally dubious, dangerously misleading, and ultimately harmful to the very cause that it purports to protect.

In fact, he should tear it up, not start over, and do the actual real statutory and regulatory work that truly protects religious liberty.

According to the New York Times and others privy to the administration’s preview, the order has three main components:

1) a promise to “protect and vigorously promote religious liberty,”
2) a directive to “ease restrictions on political activity by churches and charities,” and
3) an order to “federal agencies to exempt some religious organizations from Affordable Care Act requirements that provide employees with health coverage for contraception.”

Those directives are respectively

1) meaningless,
2) dangerous, and
3) meaningless.

Let’s dispense first with the vague and sweeping promise to “protect and vigorously promote religious liberty.”

That’s a nice sentiment, but it’s proven only by actions, and if the order itself is considered one of those actions, then it’s self-refuting.

The order doesn’t do anything “vigorously,” and it doesn’t “protect” anything at all.

Next — and this is important to understand — an executive order cannot repeal a statute, and legal restrictions on political activity by churches are statutory.

They’re part of the so-called Johnson Amendment, a rarely enforced provision of the tax code that prohibits 501(c)(3) tax-exempt organizations from, as the IRS explains, “directly or indirectly participating in, or intervening in, any political campaign on behalf of (or in opposition to) any candidate for elective public office.”

The Johnson Amendment is constitutionally problematic (to put it mildly).

Lyndon Johnson rammed it through Congress for the noble purpose of stopping nonprofits from supporting his primary opponent and preserving his own political hide, and it’s been on the books ever since.

Though it’s rarely enforced, it hangs like the Sword of Damocles over the heads not just of churches but of every 501(c)(3) in the United States.

First Amendment lawyers are desperate to find a good test case to challenge it, but the IRS’s general lack of enforcement means that the right case is elusive.

So the amendment remains.

The answer to the Johnson Amendment, however, is to either repeal the statute or overturn it in court.

This order does neither.

In fact, a lawyer will commit malpractice if he tells a pastor or director of a nonprofit that this order allows a church or nonprofit to use its resources to support or oppose a candidate.

Even if the Trump administration chooses not to enforce the law, a later administration can tear up Trump’s order and begin vigorous enforcement based on actions undertaken during the Trump administration.

Imagine, for example, that churches rely on this order to mobilize support for Trump in his 2020 reelection campaign.

Imagine he loses to Kamala Harris.

Then, suddenly, churches across the land would be instantly vulnerable to IRS enforcement action.

Thinking they were protected, churches would find themselves in the worst of predicaments, with their rights and possibly even existences dependent on the capricious mercies of the federal courts.

Even worse, to the extent the Trump administration is using its “prosecutorial discretion” not to enforce the Johnson Amendment, how is that any different from the Obama administration’s decision to use its alleged prosecutorial discretion not to enforce immigration laws?

Legislative problems demand legislative or judicial solutions.

The order’s last reported provision, a promise to “exempt some religious organizations” from the contraception mandate, is just as vague and meaningless as the order’s promise to vigorously protect religious freedom.

Just as executive orders can’t overturn statutes, they also can’t overturn regulations, and the contraception mandate is on the regulatory books.

Finally, the order is just as notable for what it omits as for what it reportedly includes.

While the Johnson Amendment is important, its threat to religious freedom pales in comparison to the comprehensive assault on religious organizations on federally funded campuses, the threats to the religious freedom of Christian educational institutions, and the attack on the rights of conscience of dissenters from the new orthodoxies on marriage, the family, and even the definition of male and female.

What will the administration do to protect religious freedom when the entire cultural Left mobilizes against it?

We still don’t know.

The administration can right now begin the rulemaking process to change the contraception mandate.

Congress can right now begin the lawmaking process to repeal the Johnson Amendment.

Congress can right now work to pass statutes that protect free speech and rights of conscience.

That’s the real work of government.

Anything else is fluff, a symbol at best.

Trump’s strongest move for life and liberty has been the nomination of an outstanding Supreme Court justice, but let’s be clear — a religious-liberty policy that depends mainly on nominating judges and hoping that they do the right thing is a half-measure at best and a fool’s errand at worst.

The story of the Supreme Court of the last 40 years is largely of major battles lost and high hopes dashed.

In the modern administrative state, the work of government is conducted through sweeping statutes and regulations that no one can count on a court to overturn.

To guarantee protections for religious liberty, you write those protections into law, you don’t wish-cast them through executive orders.

While there is no one single reason why Donald Trump won the presidency, this much I do know: If Evangelical voters had not turned out in mass numbers, he would be sitting in New York right now plotting the comeback of Trump Steaks.

It’s time for those Evangelical leaders who jumped on the Trump Train, the ones who are now oh-so-close to that coveted “room where it happens,” to speak with a single, united voice.

Tell the president that the nation’s first liberty demands more respect — and more protection — than the dangerous nothingness of this executive order.

http://www.nationalreview.com/article/4 ... er-failure
For Huey,
It's late, I'm tired and it's a long piece, so I am not going to go point by point.
Suffice it to say that while I do not agree with David French on everything, he does make some excellent points.
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Trump praises Australian universal health care system at meeting with prime minister.

President Donald Trump had kind words for the Australian health care system at a meeting with that country's prime minister Thursday, just hours after Republican members of Congress succeeded in passing their efforts to roll back the Affordable Care Act.

“We have a failing health care -- I shouldn't say this to our great gentleman and my friend from Australia because you have better health care than we do," said Trump.

The remarks were quickly seized upon by progressive critics of the president, including Sen. Bernie Sanders, I-Vermont, who have long advocated for a government-run universal health care option, similar to Australia's Medicare system.

"The president has just said it.

That's great.

Let's take a look at the Australian health care system, and let's move," said Sanders shortly afterward in an interview on MSNBC.

"Maybe he wants to take a look at the Canadian health care system or systems throughout Europe.

Thank you, Mr. President.

Let us move to a Medicare-for-all system that does what every other major country does."

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/trump-me ... d=47187711
I saw that.
Bernie had quite a good laugh over that.
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House Republicans being bussed to the White House to celebrate the passage of the ACHA is like a baseball team running out on the field after the first inning to celebrate because they scored a run.

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