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14 May 2017 1:37 pm
It doesn't matter what goes on in Trump's head philosophically. Almost everything he is doing is conservative, some things what we have only dreamed of.Misty » 14 May 2017 1:16 pm » wrote:I have never seen so many members of any party who dId not support the sitting president of their own party.
Could you ever imagine people like George Will, William Krystal and David Frum not having supported Ronald Reagan, or either of the the two Bush presidents?
Unlike you, they understand that 45 is NOT a true Conservative.
The worry I had about protectionism seems to be gone. He just cut a deal with China on trade.
Will is a political loser. Kristol is a Big-Government semi-conservative. Who knows what Frum is these days.
Let them whine and complain all they want. Trump has Middle America.
If the election were held again, he'd win by 3 or so points, and that's going to rise as his policies are felt and he does more.You hitched your wagon to a 'star' that is headed off a cliff.
Unless your party gets luck and some serious wrongdoing found, your party is f***ed.
14 May 2017 1:38 pm
Misty » 14 May 2017 1:16 pm » wrote:You hitched your wagon to a 'star' that is headed off a cliff.
What "cliff," psycho?
And when are you going to cite backup for your claim that Trump committed a felony by "intimidating a witness into silence?"
14 May 2017 1:39 pm
You really are mentally disabled when it comes to Trump. Your hatred blinds you to facts. The FBI Director serves under the Judiciary department and can only be fired for cause. The under secretary he reports to and the one just above that one collaborated on a letter to Trump outlining the reasons to fire him for cause. One reason was his way overstepping the bounds of his office with public comments. All investagive groups are to remain silent especially about having someone prosecuted. That is the domain of prosecutors. Executive branch gives facts to the judiciary branch and they will determine if they will prosecute or not. This is always an issue between the branches. Watch a few episodes of "Blue Bloods" on Netflix and you will see this in action but always behind the scenes. Police groups bring facts they have proof of to the prosecuting attorney and the prosecuter decides if they will have enough to successfully prosecute them. Comey many times said what only the prosecuter is allowed to say. His superiors also found him to be incompetent. The letter they wrote is a public record.Misty » 13 May 2017 4:37 pm » wrote: It's not 'fake' sympathy jackass.
I dare you to tell me that Comey or anyone else for that matter deserved to be fired in the disgusting manner that 45 did it?
Are you really a big enough piece of **** to do that?
Don't answer.
That's rhetorical.
We know you are.
You're a plenty big enough piece of **** to think that Comey got what he deserved.
And when did I say that Comey 'stole' the election from Hillary?
What he did certainly wasn't to her advantage, but her loss can't be blamed on what Comey did alone.
To start with, she was a terrible candidate, and she ran an awful campaign.
I actually defended Comey releasing his letter to Congress in October.
I said at the time that he was caught between a rock and a hard place.
Had he not informed Congress that he was re-opening the investigation and she had won the election and then it came out after the election, he would have been pilloried for 'protecting' her.
You would have been the first one in line to call for his scalp.
Besides he had FBI agents in New York where the investigation was taking place, who would undoubtedly have leaked it.
They were leaking like sieves to Rudy Giuliani.
Any more lies you wanna tell today?
As far as hypocrisy, you Trumpkins were all giddy when he re-opened the investigation in October.
Now, because he's investigating the Trump campaign, you need him gone.
Misty only listens to the Democrat Fake News aka LIES. She ignores things like Schumer demanding Comey be fired and reversing this when Trump fired him for cause. Democrats have taken the position that they will oppose oppose Trump on everything even when he does what they were demanding. That is a recipe for failure!!!
14 May 2017 1:43 pm
Here's your non-partisan professional Sally Yates, psycho.Misty » 14 May 2017 1:16 pm » wrote:You hitched your wagon to a 'star' that is headed off a cliff.
You shrieked that the motives for Trump firing Comey had changed. No, they were multiple.
Why didn't you condemn Yates for lying about her motive for refusing Trump's EO?
SALLY YATES: WHAT ROUGH BEAST
Sally Yates testified before the Senate Judiciary Committee this past Monday, but it already feels like ancient history. Yates testified with former DNI James Clapper about events leading to the termination of Michael Flynn as President Trump’s National Security Adviser only days into his job.
At the time of the events in issue Yates served as Acting Attorney General, holding over from the Obama administration until her dismissal by President Trump on January 30. I find her slight southern accent endearing but, like so many Obama administration apparatchiks, Yates is one slippery customer and (to borrow a phrase from the better Yeats) rough beast.
Eli Lake provided an early take on the events leading to Flynn’s firing in “The political assassination of Michael Flynn” Lake’s subhead puts it this way: “Flynn was the appetizer. Trump is the main course.”
In her testimony Yates explained why she refused to defend President Trump’s first immigration executive order (the so-called “travel ban”) in the related judicial proceedings. Not many noticed — certainly no one in the mainstream media noticed — that Yates’s testimony veered from her original explanation. As Jack Goldsmith put it at Lawfare, Yates changed her tune. As I say, appearances to the contrary notwithstanding, Yates is one slippery customer. Goldsmith tacitly proves this point to a fare-thee-well.
In the heart of her headline making testimony, Yates explained why she had found Flynn subject to blackmail by — who else? — the Russians. Andy McCarthy says it ain’t so in “Sally Yates: Much ado about nothing new.” At RedState Streiff concurs. On the contrary, according to Paul Sherry in the New York Post, “Sally Yates was the real blackmailer.” Sperry cogently concludes: “Yates was no Paul Revere saving the nation from Russian moles. She was a partisan hack trying to save Obama’s liberal legacy.”
We are inundated with the Democrats’ propaganda and the related misinformation served up by the Democrats’ mainstream media adjunct. The chaos within the Trump administration has left it standing unchallenged in the case of Sally Yates, which serves to open a window onto the critical matters on which she has had her hands.
http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2 ... -beast.php
14 May 2017 2:04 pm
Yes you have, if you had your eyes open.Misty » 14 May 2017 1:16 pm » wrote:I have never seen so many members of any party who dId not support the sitting president of their own party.
A lot of ethical Democrats, a very small group to be sure, were outraged at Clinton's deep corruption, including Chris Mathews and the former Watergate Prosecutor Jerome Zeifman.
You didn't care one whit about it, psycho.
14 May 2017 2:14 pm
Of course that's ****.Termin8tor » 14 May 2017 10:31 am » wrote:Before Trump fired him, you didn't have the slightest sympathy for Comey.
You were not here for most of last year, so you have no idea what I said about him.
This is me defending James Comey's decision to release the info that he was re-opening the investigation into HRC's emails 11 days before the election.
And this was me last September defending Comey when roadkill was alleging that he was dirty.Misty » 03 Nov 2016 9:43 pm » wrote: It seems that there are some anti-Hillary Breitbart.com reading agents in the FBI's New York office that are the ones who have been leaking like a sieve, and that is why Comey was forced to write the letter to Congress about the discovery of emails on Anthony Weiner's laptop 11 days before the election.
He was afraid that it was going to leak anyway.
Misty » 10 Sep 2016 5:31 pm » wrote:That's right.
I'm galloping to James Comey's defense, because he is an honorable man, but you idiots have such a raging hard-on for the Clintons that you don't give a **** whose life you have to destroy to bring them down.
Misty » 10 Sep 2016 5:41 pm » wrote:Get it right Goatse.
I'm galloping to James Comey's defense.
He is the subject of this thread who you are attempting to smear is he not?
Any more lies, Puss?Misty » 10 Sep 2016 7:35 pm » wrote:That's right Goatse.
I defended Comey the Republican because he is a man of integrity.
Unlike you, my feelings about James Comey have never changed.
I have consistently said that he is a man of integrity, even when he was GWB's Deputy AG.
I'm sure you loved him when he re-opened the Clinton investigation, but now that he was looking into 45's campaign and possible colusion with Russia, he had to go.
Again, are you too much of a piece of **** to say that Comey did not deserve to be fired the way he was?
Again.......that's rhetorical.
No response necessary.
14 May 2017 2:15 pm
And if they acted like dems they would be accused of marching in lockstep.Termin8tor » 14 May 2017 2:04 pm » wrote: Yes you have, if you had your eyes open.
A lot of ethical Democrats, a very small group to be sure, were outraged at Clinton's deep corruption, including Chris Mathews and the former Watergate Prosecutor Jerome Zeifman.
You didn't care one whit about it, psycho.
Sounds like a big tent party to me. Not the DNC way where they sound like A nazi. You vill leesten to us.
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14 May 2017 2:24 pm
I know your dishonest Modus Operandi, psycho.Misty » 14 May 2017 2:14 pm » wrote:Of course that's ****.
You were not here for most of last year, so you have no idea what I said about him.
**** you, liar.This is me defending James Comey's decision to release the info that he was re-opening the investigation into HRC's emails 11 days before the election.
And this was me last September defending Comey when roadkill was alleging that he was dirty.
Any more lies, Puss?
Unlike you, my feelings about James Comey have never changed.
I have never trusted Comey, so you're lying about how I felt about him, and I have very high doubts he has integrity, based on Rosenstein's analysis of his conduct.
That's not you defending Comey. That's you being a dishonest partisan hack defending the Clinton's.
You have more than a decade of blatant lies and stonewalling in their defense. As long as Comey protected HRC from prosecution, you would "defend" him.
If he ever did what was honorable and cut her loose, you'd have smeared him like you smear everyone who gets in the way of your wackjob leftist agenda.
Like you smeared Fund.
Like you smeared Schippers, a Democrat.
Like you smeared Hoekstra.
Like you smeared Bush.
Among many, many, honorable people you've falsely smeared.
So spare me the lectures and the BS.
14 May 2017 2:26 pm
You just called Chris Matthews an 'ethical' Democrat?Termin8tor » 14 May 2017 2:04 pm » wrote:Yes you have, if you had your eyes open.
A lot of ethical Democrats, a very small group to be sure, were outraged at Clinton's deep corruption, including Chris Mathews and the former Watergate Prosecutor Jerome Zeifman.
You didn't care one whit about it, psycho.
And you compare him to people like George Will, Bill Krystal and David Frum?
WTF happened to you Puss?
You used to have so much respect for Conservatives like the ones I just mentioned and you posted pieces from Conservative publications like The Weekly Standard and National Review all the time.
Now you call those people 'squishes' and post links to wingnut websites.
You seem to have abandoned all of your Conservative values.
You are the epitome of who Charlie Sykes talked about in the piece by him, that I posted here two days ago.
http://liberalforum.net/viewtopic.php?f ... 60#p906727
14 May 2017 2:30 pm
According to multiple sources within the FBI, he refused to adequately investigate any of HRC's or Obama's scandals.Misty » 14 May 2017 2:14 pm » wrote:I'm sure you loved him when he re-opened the Clinton investigation, but now that he was looking into 45's campaign and possible colusion with Russia, he had to go.
And he wasn't in charge of the Trump investigation, liar. That will go on, unless you're claiming that the FBI is corrupt and unable to do so.
You are a piece of **** and clearly always will be, the way you endlessly smear people of integrity, then make false excuses afterwards.Again, are you too much of a piece of **** to say that Comey did not deserve to be fired the way he was?
Again.......that's rhetorical.
No response necessary.
I believe Trump had multiple reasons for firing Comey when he was far away from WashDC and for the way he was fired.
Comey was deeply ethically corrupt for many reasons, and Trump had good reasons to not only distrust him, but to treat him appropriately.
That sends a message to the other officials who refuse to conduct themselves ethically and loyally to the presidency.
14 May 2017 2:31 pm
Touchy, touchy.Termin8tor » 14 May 2017 2:24 pm » wrote:**** you, liar.
I proved that what you posted about me was total ****, so you're the liar.
14 May 2017 2:37 pm
Sends a message? Like a Mafia boss?Termin8tor » 14 May 2017 2:30 pm » wrote:I believe Trump had multiple reasons for firing Comey when he was far away from WashDC and for the way he was fired.
Comey was deeply ethically corrupt for many reasons, and Trump had good reasons to not only distrust him, but to treat him appropriately.[
That sends a message to the other officials who refuse to conduct themselves ethically and loyally to the presidency.
The FBI Director is not supposed to be loyal to the president.
He's supposed to be loyal to the LAW.
At this point I am embarrassed for you for giving an answer like that.
You should have let it stand as a rhetorical question.
14 May 2017 2:38 pm
He was at the time. He took considerable risk to his career to have many shows going into great detail about Clinton's corruption, especially when the corrupt liberal MSM were covering it up.
Can you quote me ever expressing high support for any of them? No, so you're just lying.And you compare him to people like George Will, Bill Krystal and David Frum?
WTF happened to you Puss?
You used to have so much respect for Conservatives like the ones I just mentioned and you posted pieces from Conservative publications like The Weekly Standard and National Review all the time.
Now you call those people 'squishes' and post links to wingnut websites.
You seem to have abandoned all of your Conservative values.
You are the epitome of who Charlie Sykes talked about in the piece by him, that I posted here two days ago.
I have never cited Kristol, Frum, Will or Sykes on this board, psycho, so how much respect could I have for them?
Decades ago I had higher respect for Will, and on strictly intellectual issues, he's very informed. On winning the fight for our principles and the country, he's a loser. He'll let the country fail rather than get his dainty hands dirty supporting someone like Trump.
I haven't held Kristol in high regard since he advocated under Bush that Repubs abandon their principles to downsize government. I haven't trusted him since.
Frum has been AWOL for many years, and I think most his opinions are laughable.
I had never heard of Sykes.
14 May 2017 2:42 pm
You're only feigning embarrassment, because you cut out my key quote. Funny how you so often do that, disingenuous hack that you are.Misty » 14 May 2017 2:37 pm » wrote: At this point I am embarrassed for you for giving an answer like that.
You should have let it stand as a rhetorical question.
According to multiple sources within the FBI, he refused to adequately investigate any of HRC's or Obama's scandals.
Can you see it now?
That strikes me as ample reason to embarrass a public official.
14 May 2017 2:43 pm
What you ignore is the fact that he violated his job by making those pronouncements. That was very unethical. The FBI Director should be seen and not heard. The only thing the investigative branch is allowed to say is to confirm an arrest only if questioned. Comey broke that rule and announced what is only the prerogative of the prosecutors office!!! Trump fired him for cause as required of that office. His superiors wrote a letter of recommendation for firing him for cause to Trump. Trump acted on that letter.Misty » 14 May 2017 2:14 pm » wrote: Of course that's ****.
You were not here for most of last year, so you have no idea what I said about him.
This is me defending James Comey's decision to release the info that he was re-opening the investigation into HRC's emails 11 days before the election.
And this was me last September defending Comey when roadkill was alleging that he was dirty.
Any more lies, Puss?
Unlike you, my feelings about James Comey have never changed.
I have consistently said that he is a man of integrity, even when he was GWB's Deputy AG.
I'm sure you loved him when he re-opened the Clinton investigation, but now that he was looking into 45's campaign and possible colusion with Russia, he had to go.
Again, are you too much of a piece of **** to say that Comey did not deserve to be fired the way he was?
Again.......that's rhetorical.
No response necessary.
14 May 2017 2:44 pm
You proved......Misty » 14 May 2017 2:31 pm » wrote: Touchy, touchy.
I proved that what you posted about me was total ****, so you're the liar.
She lies.
Speaking of lies, when are you going to cite Dems demanding that Trump be impeached for the felony he committed in front of the entire world for trying to threaten a witness into silence?
I'm sure that the corrupt liberal MSM have many, many stories backing your **** up.
14 May 2017 2:45 pm
Oh please.Termin8tor » 14 May 2017 2:38 pm » wrote:Can you quote me ever expressing high support for any of them? No, so you're just lying.
You posted pieces from National Review here all the time.
I even used to bust your chops about it.
14 May 2017 2:48 pm
Gosh, how did the Mafia get into it, psycho? Just another of your endless smears.Misty » 14 May 2017 2:37 pm » wrote: Sends a message? Like a Mafia boss?
Who said Trump demanded legal loyalty, psycho? Were you there?The FBI Director is not supposed to be loyal to the president.
He's supposed to be loyal to the LAW.
At this point I am embarrassed for you for giving an answer like that.
You should have let it stand as a rhetorical question.
No, you only have the questionable word of a person who's been caught in gross ethical violations, if not crimes.
If I were Trump, I'd have asked Comey that aside from legal issues, would he support me politically against my political opponents, particularly Obama officials and others who unethically wish to obstruct my presidential agenda.
Off the top of my head, that is perfectly legitimate. Any president deserves to know his officials are loyal to him.
14 May 2017 7:35 pm
Oh yeah, I mean, who wants their taxes cut, a stronger economy or judges who will enforce the law and the Constitution?Misty » 14 May 2017 1:16 pm » wrote: You hitched your wagon to a 'star' that is headed off a cliff.
Only crazies.
Breaking news!
So your party will have to run on two years of lies, smears and obstruction of popular legislation.Former DNI Director Clapper: (Still) NO EVIDENCE of Collusion Between Trump and Russia
http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2017/05 ... sia-video/
Your party is ****.
14 May 2017 9:23 pm
Sally Yates was the Deputy AG who was named the Acting AG by 45.Cannonpointer » 12 May 2017 12:46 am » wrote:I give the Carl piece two thumbs up. My sentiments exactly. If you're given a job you can't do, you quit. You don't stay in the job and not do it.
In 2004 James Comey was the Deputy AG who was named Acting AG while AG John Ashcroft was hospitalized.
In his capacity as Acting AG, Comey refused to sign off on GWB's warrantless wiretapping program because he felt it was unlawful and unconstitutional.
Ashcroft, and the head of the FBI at the time backed Comey, and all three threatened to resign in protest.
Bush had no choice but to back down.
No one was fired.
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