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Misty » 15 May 2017 12:54 pm » wrote: So now you've taken to smearing James Comey, who by all accounts has the reputation of a boy scout?

Comey's questionable word?
Now that is downright laugh out loud funny.

I would take anyone's word over the word of the pathological liar who inhabits the WH.
Besides, he has a record of demanding people's loyalty.

He even made his followers raise their hands and take an oath to support him at his rallies during the campaign.
How do you have this so *** backwards?

An FBI director is not supposed to support the president politically and is not supposed to be loyal to the president.
If that were the case, then they could never investigate a president that appointed them who may be committing crimes.

They are supposed to support and be loyal to the law and only the law.
And they are supposed to be non-partisan and independent, which is why they are appointed to a ten year term.

But that's all changed now, because I'm pretty sure that we are about to get a very political appointment to head the FBI and someone who would probably be willing to swear an oath of loyalty to this POTUS.
Don't take anything off the top of your head.
You can't afford to lose any more brain matter.

Sgt Bilko » 15 May 2017 1:37 am » wrote:Poor delusional Misty ignores the fact that the FBI Director can only be fired for cause. The cause was supplied by his two immediate superiors in a letter to Trump.

HOLT: So, you had already made the decision.

TRUMP: Oh, I was going to fire regardless of recommendation.

HOLT: So, there was...

(CROSSTALK)

TRUMP: They -- he made a recommendation. He's highly respected. Very good guy, very smart guy.
And the Democrats like him. The Republicans like him.

He had made a recommendation. But regardless of recommendation, I was going to fire Comey knowing there was no good time to do it

And in fact, when I decided to just do it, I said to myself -- I said, you know, this Russia thing with Trump and Russia is a made-up story.

Transcript

Sgt Bilko » 15 May 2017 1:06 pm » wrote:Please explain why you blind yourself to these issues with Comey!! Your blind irrational hatred of Trump causes your idiotic posts anytime he is involved in an issue. You just put on your blinders and rant idiocy!!

Termin8tor » 15 May 2017 1:01 pm » wrote: Which is also a lie, because if I really and truly respected them, I would have cited them over the last decade, liar.

Misty » 15 May 2017 1:13 pm » wrote:Which 45 promptly contradicted in his interview with Lester Holt.
He said that he was going to fire Comey anyway with or without the (phony) recommendation (that he asked them to come up with as cover).

And he said it was because this whole 'Russia thing with Trump' was a 'made up story.'
So he fired him with the investigation in mind.

Misty » 15 May 2017 1:15 pm » wrote: There is more projection in that post than in a dozen movie theaters.

Misty » 13 May 2017 11:50 am » wrote:This Tweet was clearly meant to intimidate Comey into remaining silent about what was said when he had dinner at the WH.
Comey will still be called to testify before Congress, and now as a private citizen, he becomes a witness.
Surely as a witness, he will be asked about what was said at that dinner, and in any subsequent contacts he had with the POTUS.
I believe they have a term for that when someone tries to intimidate a witness into remaining silent.
Oh yeah. It's called 'intimidating a witness.'

Termin8tor » 15 May 2017 1:20 pm » wrote:Why are you pretending that you don't see this, psycho?
Which is a felony, whether you used the word or not.
Hopeless freaking liar.

Misty » 15 May 2017 1:52 pm » wrote: You accuse Democrats of committing 'felonies' all the time, and you use the actual word, so STFU.

Termin8tor » 15 May 2017 1:19 pm » wrote:Oh my gosh, Trump had multiple motives to fire Comey!
What a huge scandal!

Termin8tor » 15 May 2017 2:01 pm » wrote: Hilarious how angry liars get when their lies are exposed.

Termin8tor » 15 May 2017 2:01 pm » wrote:And I cite 1) evidence and 2) good sources to back my claim up.

You offer nothing except your usual lies and smears, liar.

MSNBC’s Mika Brzezinski: Kellyanne Conway ‘doesn’t believe in what she’s saying’ and secretly hates Trump - VIDEO

Mika Brzezinski and Joe Scarborough repeated one of the weirdest Washington, D.C. secrets Monday morning when they reminded “Morning Joe” viewers that a senior advisor to President Donald Trump doesn’t really want to work for the president.

“This is a woman, by the way, who came on our show during the campaign and would shill for Trump in extensive fashion and then she would get off the air, the camera would be turned off, the microphone would be taken off and she would say ‘bleeech I need to take a shower’ because she disliked her candidate (who she called her 'client') so much,” Brzezinski said.

Scarborough agreed.

Misty » 15 May 2017 1:52 pm » wrote:

Ann Coulter Is Worried The ‘Trump-Haters Were Right’

Conservative author Ann Coulter was one of the most vocal supporters of Donald Trump during the presidential campaign.

She wrote “In Trump We Trust” and proclaimed that she worships him like the “people of North Korea worship their Dear Leader – blind loyalty.”

Coulter described herself as a single-issue voter during the election and was drawn to Trump due to his “Mexican rapist speech” and him calling for a border wall to be built.

In an interview Sunday with The Daily Caller, Coulter let it be known she still has hope in the Trump presidency, but is ready to jump ship.

Uhhhh. I’m not very happy with what has happened so far.

I guess we have to try to push him to keep his promises.

But this isn’t North Korea, and if he doesn’t keep his promises I’m out.

This is why we voted for him. I think everyone who voted for him knew his personality was grotesque, it was the issues.

I hate to say it, but I agree with every line in my friend Frank Bruni’s op-ed in The New York Times today.

Where is the great negotiation? Where is the bull in the china shop we wanted?

That budget the Republicans pushed through was like a practical joke…

Did we win anything? And this is the great negotiator?

Trump was our last shot.

I kind of thought it was Romney, and then lo and behold like a miracle Trump comes along.

I still believe in Trumpism.

I have no regrets for ferociously supporting him. What choice did we have? We had no choice.

Yeah, I mean, my fingers are still crossed. It’s not like I’m out yet, but boy, things don’t look good.

Misty » 15 May 2017 2:05 pm » wrote:Are you angry Puss?

Since when is **** called 'evidence' and 'good sources?'

Misty » 15 May 2017 1:01 pm » wrote:When you show me the post where I said that he committed a 'felony.'

Termin8tor » 15 May 2017 2:20 pm » wrote:You got your wish about an investigation into voter fraud!

The vice chairman of President Trump's voter fraud commission denied the group is set up to prove Trump's claim that between 3 and 5 million illegal immigrants voted in the 2016 presidential election.

Kansas Secretary of State Kris Kobach said on CNN it's not his job, or anyone else's job, to prove Trump's claim that he lost the popular vote because illegal votes were cast for Hillary Clinton.

"The commission is not set up to disprove or to prove President Trump's claim, nor is it only looking at the 2016 election," Kobach said.

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/vice- ... le/2623093

Misty » 15 May 2017 2:42 pm » wrote: Kris Kobach has one agenda and that is voter suppression.
He's the King of voter suppression.

When Will Republicans Stand Up to Trump?

If the controversy over the firing of James Comey, the F.B.I. director, has done anything, it has confirmed my decision on Nov. 9 to leave the Republican Party after a lifetime as a loyal member.

The Republican Party was once the party of small government, free trade, traditional values, principled foreign policy leadership and, most important of all, adherence to the Constitution.

Republicans spent decades fulminating against activist judges like Earl Warren and activist politicians like Barack Obama, claiming they were undermining the founders’ vision of limited government.

And then, the party sold its soul to the soulless charlatan who now occupies the Oval Office and makes a mockery of every one of the party’s principles.

Republicans have turned away from this uncomfortable truth by telling themselves that Donald Trump is an imperfect but necessary vessel for their agenda.

Sure, he’s clownish and boorish, but hey, he has appointed a great Supreme Court justice.

(I had one conservative friend tell me that Neil Gorsuch’s appointment justified the entire Trump presidency.)

Sure, he doesn’t believe in anything, but he will repeal Obamacare, cut taxes and increase the military budget.

Isn’t it worth overlooking a few crazy tweets in return for this conservative policy nirvana?

If that is all that Mr. Trump demanded, and if he actually delivered results, the answer might be yes.

But the events of this week have made clear that the price of an accommodation with Mr. Trump is higher. Much, much higher.

Like other conservatives, I care about tax cuts and military spending increases.

But I care even more about the rule of law — the only thing that prevents our country from going the way of Venezuela, Russia or Zimbabwe.

In office less than four months, Mr. Trump has already undermined the rule of law in myriad small ways.

He allowed his daughter and son-in-law to work in the White House in arguable violation of an anti-nepotism statute.

He did not divest himself of his business holdings and did not release his tax returns.

His sons have continued pursuing deals with jillionaires closely linked to unsavory foreign regimes.

He and his daughter have accepted valuable trademark protections from China.

His son-in-law’s family sought to trade on their connections to sell American citizenship to rich Chinese.

But all of that is inconsequential compared with the flagrant assault on the rule of law represented by the firing of the F.B.I. director.

The initial cover story for this act was Mr. Comey’s improper conduct last year in publicly discussing the F.B.I. investigation of Hillary Clinton’s emails.

But that masquerade crumbled when the deputy attorney general, Rod Rosenstein, who wrote a memo laying out legitimate concerns regarding Mr. Comey’s actions last year, contradicted the White House’s suggestion that he had initiated the firing. Mr. Trump now says he was determined to dismiss Mr. Comey before he received Mr. Rosenstein’s recommendation, rendering the initial White House explanation “inoperative.”

Why did President Trump want to get rid of Mr. Comey?

Numerous news outlets have described how furious he was about the F.B.I. investigation of Trump campaign ties to Russia.

The president made clear his intent to shut down the investigation on Monday when he tweeted, “The Russia-Trump collusion story is a total hoax, when will this taxpayer funded charade end?”

Far from shutting down the inquiry, Mr. Comey was expanding it, because he was “concerned,” according to The Wall Street Journal, “by information showing possible evidence of collusion.”

He was fired, explained a White House spokeswoman, Sarah Huckabee Sanders, because “we want” this investigation “to come to its conclusion.”

Mr. Trump himself now links his decision to fire Mr. Comey to his conviction that “this Russia thing with Trump and Russia is a made up story.”

The president had previously tried to win from Mr. Comey a pledge of loyalty and assurances that he was not a target of the investigation — both actions that are, in and of themselves, unethical and improper.

When Mr. Comey wouldn’t comply, he was canned.

While the president has the authority to fire the F.B.I. director, to do so under these circumstances and for these reasons is a gross violation of the trust citizens place in the president to ensure that the laws “be faithfully executed.”

If this is not a prima facie case of obstruction of justice — an impeachable offense — it’s hard to know what is.

Republicans would understand this and say so if these actions were taken by President Hillary Clinton.

But when it comes to President Trump, they have checked their principles at the Oval Office door.

A few Republicans in Congress (about 40 out of 290) expressed concern or asked for an explanation of Mr. Comey’s firing.

But only six have called for an independent investigation, and just one for a special counsel.

The Republican leaders in both the House and the Senate supported Mr. Comey’s shameful dismissal.

If this Republican stonewall holds, Mr. Trump may get away with the most egregious abuse of presidential power since Richard Nixon’s Saturday Night Massacre in 1973.

In those days, too, most Republicans reflexively rushed to the president’s defense.

But not all.

Attorney General Elliot Richardson and Deputy Attorney General William Ruckelshaus resigned rather than fire the independent counsel, Archibald Cox.

Six Republicans joined all 21 Democrats on the House Judiciary Committee to move articles of impeachment.

Republican senators like Howard Baker were relentless in demanding, “What did the president know and when did he know it?”

And when the end came in 1974, three Republicans — Senator Barry Goldwater, the Senate minority leader Hugh Scott and the House minority leader John Rhodes — went to the White House to tell Mr. Nixon he had lost the support of his party.

Are there even three principled Republicans left who will put their devotion to the Republic above their fealty to the Republican Party?

I fear the answer to that question.

Misty » 15 May 2017 3:33 pm » wrote: I dare anyone to call Max Boot a lefty.